Japanese village?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:32 (five years ago)
asmr is designed to deliver a sensory response, lo-fi is more about vibez
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:30 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
exactly, asmr is for those who wish 2 feel, but as I said I wonder whether there has been an elision and people who don't really know what asmr is are consuming bad asmr content in a functionally similar ambient way to these lo-fi beatz
― imago, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:34 (five years ago)
just learnt that dog latin has bowels of steel good 2 know
what are you feeling though? "low grade euphoria" according to the wikipedia page. still feels measured, controlled, vibelike
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:36 (five years ago)
itt: people who don't get asmr or loffy
― Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:38 (five years ago)
xps I sleep with brown noise. Should we poll all the noise colors?
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:40 (five years ago)
asmr = weedloffy = xanax
idk this^ feels wrong still lol
― imago, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:41 (five years ago)
Brown Noise works better than White Noise as it's a deeper, more enveloping hum whereas white noise is a little on the harsh side.co-sign
― excuse me while I fold my pants (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:43 (five years ago)
a lot of it strikes me as descended from Dilla
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:43 (five years ago)
Wasn't there a thread on this the other day music playing in background for cat rescue centres, copyright free music for podcasts, timelapse vidoes of going up and down a ladder?
― saer, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:43 (five years ago)
Nujabes is a key touchpoint too
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:44 (five years ago)
co-fi would be a great name for a chill beats and coffee joint that i would never ever visit
― would a nit be nice? (NickB), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:49 (five years ago)
lolol
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:49 (five years ago)
A+ Nick
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 14:50 (five years ago)
Guys I'm writing a big post
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:24 (five years ago)
everybody clear the room!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:26 (five years ago)
or you're in for a slow and steady drumming
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:27 (five years ago)
― brimstead, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:36 (five years ago)
that big post going to feel so satisfying when it comes out
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:39 (five years ago)
Ok, I've never really gathered my thoughts on this topic, although there was a good recent discussion about it here: ILM's 2010's blindspots
So here we go. For me the roots of it obviously go back to Dilla and the L.A./Low End Theory beat scene, although if you wanna go back farther you could just say that downtempo and trip-hop served the same function (see also early Four Tet etc). But there was a wing of the beat scene that was particularly focused on found-sound percussion and textures that were more influenced by r&b, New Age, etc. Lots of Rhodes, square waves, surface noise, and Roland SP404s.
Teebs 'Ardour' is a true classic of the genre:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLj29qehYLM
But for me the true template for 'lo-fi' is Shohmo's Bad Vibes album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIKMKki5l1M
At the time, I was extremely into this sound before there was a name for it, and I was trying (with varying levels of success) to make my own version of it too. Some other personal touchstones from when this still seemed like an exciting path in the early '10s:
Dropping Gems records out of Seattle/Portland:https://droppinggems.bandcamp.com/album/djaohttps://droppinggems.bandcamp.com/album/find
IG88:https://ig88.bandcamp.com/album/breathing-suit
The first Torus EP that apparently doesn't exist anymore. Early Lapalux, Shigeto, Airhead, the first few milo EPs, etc etc.
Anyway, I never got into Soulection, but that seemed to be the writing on the wall as far as consolidating this sound into a brand/label/radio station that already felt a little watered down (although the producer Monte Booker who linked up with them was and is incredible).
When I first heard the term 'lo-fi hip-hop' I had no idea what it was referring to, but it quickly became apparent it was the final form of this sound after it had been reduced to basic components and anonymized for the world of streaming + playlists + algorithms. That was around when I made a hard turn toward dance music (and for awhile went way too far in the other direction with really abrasive sounds, as a reaction against making music for background listening). And I still feel a little sad about it, because making beats out of kitchen utensils and jazzy Rhodes chords is a pleasant activity, but it would feel like a pointless act.
Although like I said on the other thread, I'm sure people have their favorite lo-fi producers and I'm curious about that, and I do think there's room for a ton of skill and creativity, but also wouldn't be surprised if infinite lo-fi playlists were cranked out by AI starting soon.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 15:49 (five years ago)
this is like easy listening boom bap. lots of indie-ish guitars in there too. its not like listening to dilla or doom really. but it IS good to work to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qap5aO4i9A
― candyman, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 16:57 (five years ago)
xp to jordan -- booming post
― american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 16:57 (five years ago)
booming bapping
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:01 (five years ago)
plenty of crossover with the indie game music community imo
― Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:05 (five years ago)
teebs' estara was very good IIRC though i did think it kinda twee at the time
― candyman, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:05 (five years ago)
oh and here's Japanese Village
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_zNPScqBb8
― Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:06 (five years ago)
It's interesting because lots of it is copyright free youtube compilation background and yet much of it would probably do well as proper LP release material too. Same dynamic with ambient post-vaporwave artists similarly giving their music away for free on bandcamp etc.
― Evan, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:10 (five years ago)
music media socialite adam neely called this stuff "smooth jazz for millennials" and i think that's just about accurate.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:12 (five years ago)
candyman: yeah that's the big stream. I took this thread basically as discussing that one in particular.Certainly there is more interesting work going on in instrumental/lofi hiphop* than you'll hear on that stream. It was an odd experience first hearing Shigeto and others like 5 years ago and trying to compile playlists, right as this total pablum was coming up alongside, just making the whole experience kind of tedious.Is there some better genre title around? I guess it's adding "study" or "chill" that makes it clear enough we're not talking about knxwledge, ohbliv, dilla, the new madlib album, whatever
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:13 (five years ago)
Is this not just downtempo?
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:14 (five years ago)
its just totally functional music. i dont mind it. especially right now, this is actually something i appreciate.
― candyman, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:15 (five years ago)
Easy listening boom bap otm No mention yet of not only the music being extremely similar from artist to artist but also the artwork?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:17 (five years ago)
boombient
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:18 (five years ago)
i prefer the meditation and healing tones for chakra balancing and pineal gland cleansin tbh. but there's a similarity in principle i think.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5dPe0yb4JQ
― ian, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:19 (five years ago)
oh yeah
this stuff all comes up next to each other thru the algos
― Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:22 (five years ago)
No mention yet of not only the music being extremely similar from artist to artist but also the artwork?
Yeah when 'lo-fi' came into vogue it also seemed heavily associated with anime artwork & video game streams
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:24 (five years ago)
also playing-in-another-roomcore
― Scampi reggae party (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:24 (five years ago)
xxp yeah that's the thing.one thing you can do is avoid anything with anime looking art...per xps
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:24 (five years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WhUkxMKhrI
jut another extension of all the 'sad' music the past decade i think
the lo fi thing is a bit weird to me, as its not esp dirty, its just a bit under produced, and the textures are mostly on the more delicate side
― candyman, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:25 (five years ago)
shame that i cant see any track names on this youtube feed im listening to right now (while working ofc)
― candyman, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:26 (five years ago)
Yeah i don’t know why it’s called lo-fi really
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:26 (five years ago)
though vinyl surface noise is often added onto it. I could be wrong but it seems like a trope with this stuffxxp
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:26 (five years ago)
Sometimes there is some static but not usually
― treeship., Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:27 (five years ago)
that popular stream has the track names in the video, along the top. And you can scroll back for hours on YouTube. Fill your boots!
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:28 (five years ago)
well i need a nap
"Lo-fi" was never apt and is a dumb name, although there's a strain of it that's built mostly on samples, maybe it's just supposed to be hazy sounding in comparison to trap beats. Boom bap vaporwave.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:33 (five years ago)
insomnia by team astro is so much like a classic R&B/hip hop beat but i cant put my finger on it.
whos the dilla or madlib of this genre though? :P
― candyman, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:34 (five years ago)
the only act i can recall is Mt Marcy. They seem like a pretty good example of the style
― maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:35 (five years ago)
tbh i totally love these smoove sadboy beats. does exactly what it is meant to. i value modest ambition and consistent execution. waiting for the dj premier of this genre to emerge.
― candyman, Tuesday, 2 February 2021 17:39 (five years ago)
Minecraft soundtrack music is exactly like this, yes.tempted to start making this music just so I can add in a few tracks with subtly disturbing melodic shifts and ruin everyone's studies
― Jeff, Monday, 13 December 2021 14:22 (four years ago)
They recently added some more tunes in the 1.18 update too.
I do like the occasional xmas lo-fi song. There's an "Oh Christmas Tree" version I particularly like, will have to try and find out the source.
― Ste, Monday, 13 December 2021 14:37 (four years ago)
lol this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbfVLyKtLLc
― Ste, Monday, 13 December 2021 14:38 (four years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQtJBfr2XvU
― brimstead, Friday, 9 August 2024 04:27 (one year ago)
Reading that Kieran Press-Reynolds Pitchfork piece on the lo-fi beats scene getting co-opted by AI was very funny to me. Aside from the obligatory mention of Dilla and Nujabes as influences I sort of couldn't believe there was no mention of Low End Theory, Flying Lotus, Teebs, Shlohmo, even Soulection, etc. I wrote about this upthread, but to me by the time 'lo fi' became a thing it was already cooked, a smoothed-out and codified sound that was cashing on the algorithm.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 15:16 (ten months ago)
tempted to start making this music
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 15:31 (ten months ago)
lol, maybe if you had...added beats?
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 15:42 (ten months ago)
there is some light drumming at some point. the beats are implied. you can't just jive bunny over segovia.
― Proust Ian Rush (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 15:47 (ten months ago)
Technically not far off from “drumless” beats that sound like mirages of 90s east coast
https://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=185677
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 July 2025 18:30 (ten months ago)