New Scott Walker album: 'The Drift'

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1. The song in question is about a celebrity putting his kids on reality TV and exploiting them (hence the "pee pee" is apposite in this context).

2. The thread of apocalyptic alliteration which runs right the way through the record ("pow pow," "psst psst").

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

after being badgered about listening to this for weeks and weeks by a co-worker, i finally sat down and gave it a whirl.

fascinating, complex, terrifying, a worthwhile listen, but ultimately something i'd at best play once or twice more. i make myself watch horror movies. i slogged through hegel during my junior year continental philosophy class. even though it's got some beautiful language and i love joyce it took me over a year to finish "ulysses". and i decided to listen to "the drift" cause i figgered i'd learn something, or at least have an unpleasant experience that i could look back on for inspiration/whatever. i did, and now i'm done. i respect him a great deal for making it, and it's got lots of things in it to think about, but i really can't deal with it. bravo, scott. you've made a fucked up masterpiece that's borderline unlistenable.

but who knows, maybe i'll wander back to it someday and i'll feel differently.

Emily B (Emily B), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Meat punching!

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 15 June 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

This is totally relistenable horror.

I'm lovin' it.

And yes, I'd pay any amount of money to see this performed live, pretty much as is... sequentially.

aDOring NUTbians (donut), Thursday, 15 June 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

Please forgive the following statement.. it's all the anti-allergy meds kicking in... and it goes against the mood of the thread so far...

...but I really can't think of any album, modern or older, that is a more succinct aural obliteration of a hard-on than this record...

...which isn't a bad thing at all! This is one of the best albums I've heard, period. But never put this CD anywhere in visibility on a date, much less play it to "get in the mood", which really goes without saying. But if you never heard the album before, get swooned in by the 4AD art, buy it, then decide to play it while snuggling against that crush of yours on the couch -- expecting something morose but still celestial and emotional and warming -- your night, or even perhaps your life, will be instantly ruined.

Well, unless you're both into snuff. O fuck I should shut up now, bed time *sniffle* bye bye.

aDOring NUTbians (donut), Thursday, 15 June 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Tim Curry Donald Duck Bugs Bunny nosferatu is going to get me in my dreams tonight for posting this.

aDOring NUTbians (donut), Thursday, 15 June 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Where is everyone? What are your thoughts about this CD by July 1st 2006?

First time I spun it late at night - very intriguing - some superb snippets of "song" in every track - actually some wonderful melodies - love the lyrics - track 1 sounds "80s" - track 10 is absolutely fucking brilliant - the end of track 9 was indeed quite scary when I first heard it - I went to bed, fell asleep, racoons killing each other in my back yard awoke me, and strangely, they sounded similar to the end of track 9 - I was freaked - did not sleep!

Now, after many spins, the end of track 9 makes me chuckle! :)

This is a wonderful CD. It really does have 10 distinct parts to it. His voice is fucking something to behold. I like it much more than Tilt. It will take me weeks to get my head around it - but the sign of a great CD is that I want to play it over and over.....

Darren Skuja (Darren Skuja), Saturday, 1 July 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

Tilt Vs The Drift--- any comments on this now we've had time to absorb the latest offering??

I say Tilt is best, but by a hairs breadth...

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Saturday, 1 July 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

I only got it today.

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Toad Roundgrin (noodle vague), Friday, 7 July 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
hilarious!

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 28 July 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
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there have been two private test-screenings in london and the feedback has been brilliant - new obsessives have been converted, and some of the old guard have given it a stamp of approval, including our archival researcher who went to see Scott solo with her dad when she was 13 years old. all good signs.

thanks!

Plastic Palace Alice (PlasticPalaceAlice), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

ok,so you can't sign up here - just head to:

http://www.scottwalkerfilm.com/blog/?page_id=88

cheers.

Plastic Palace Alice (PlasticPalaceAlice), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVE THIS ALBUM. Ja-da Ja-da Jing Jing Jing

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 12 August 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
Psst, psst

The other day I bought Clear or Cloudy, the complete Ligeti recordings on Deutsche Grammaphon (on 4 CDs for 30 euros, a bargain). The beginning of 'Mysteries of the Macabre' has someone going 'psst, psst', which immediately made me think of A Lover Loves. Given that the piece is taken from a Ligeti opera which (according to Wikipedia) is about mortality, and features a dead lover, a chief of police and other Walker-ish things, I think there might be a connection...

Six months on, are people still listening to The Drift? And what do you think of it now? I must admit I was initially disappointed with it, although I think that was inevitable considering I'd been obsessing over Tilt for so many years. I found his voice just a bit too mannered and less vulnerable than on Tilt. I missed the Walker trope of weird dissonance giving way to orchestral beauty. I found there wasn't enough variation... Now I guess I'm more reconciled with all those 'faults'. I do think it's a bit too long, though. I'm still listening to it, it's still slowly sinking in, it's genuinely gripping stuff, but sometimes I find myself listening to the first three tracks then skipping to the last two or three. I think it could be a couple of tracks shorter. I'm not too fond of Hand Me Ups or Psoriatic. Then again, Tilt too sags a little in the middle I feel (lemon bloody cola goes on forever).

In summary, I think both Tilt & The Drift are flawed masterpieces but I guess Tilt still has the edge for me.

Revivalist (Revivalist), Monday, 6 November 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

Also, thinking about A Lover Loves makes me wish Walker would do more stuff that was a bit stripped down and a little more conventionally melodic, because that track is simply amazing.

Revivalist (Revivalist), Monday, 6 November 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

"Tilt" has massive edge, slightly more concise and "musical"--(by which I mean each segment flows slightly more naturally into the next, rather than the sheer blocks of 16 bar repetitions of "The Drift"). Still "The Drift" is the album I've listened to most this year, and which when not listening to it has been most in my thoughts (especially "Cue", which to my mind is the most succesful track in the way it balances the melodic and the atonal elements). I went to see the "30th Century Man" documentary at the London Film Festival last week... pretty good, though too many talking heads. Decent inteview with the man himself where he seemed extremely regretful about all the lost time, also one talking head (not teribly famous as I can't recall his name) who was talking about how the guitars in "tilt" the song shift in and out of tune, and how that detail basically makes the song. Anyone else seen this?

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh interesting stuff about "A Lover Loves", Revivalist... may have to track down that Ligeti Opera...
I too think Walker stands up well on more stripped down material, but would hold that "Rosary" is far more evocative and chilling than the closing track on "The Drift", good as it is... the reverbed electric guitar working better than the dryly recorded Acoustic of the later track, and the imagery of "Rosary" completely disjointed but at the same time making complete, eerie sense.

gekoppel (Gekoppel), Monday, 6 November 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

Still listening to "The Drift"... still one of the best albums of the year, if not thee best.. probably for many years, come to think of it.

gwynywdd dwnyt fyrwr byychydd gww (donut), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

Re. "A Lover Loves"; I now realise that the whisper at the end could be "It's OK" rather than "scared," so maybe I was right about the "happy" ending...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm convinced it's "scat" -- as in "shoo", "get off my corpse, you dumb fly."

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

In the Rosary vs A Lover Loves stakes, I agree that although both are fantastic Rosary has the edge as a haunting closer. They both seem to be about sex and death but I like the mix of imagery on Rosary a little better; it's a little more hysterical too, whereas A Lover Loves is resigned. Rosary is Beckett at the end of The Unnameable; A Lover Loves is the Beckett of Texts For Nothing.

Revivalist (Revivalist), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

I too would very much like to hear a Rick Rubin-style solo Scott album with just voice and guitar.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

album of the year
but not quite as good as Tilt

a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

album of the year
but not quite as good as Tilt

This is looking like the consensus view (and mine too). I think Scott has one more brilliant album inside him (if his corneas don't mist up first). A pared down thing "to take on the road" that he talked about in a few interviews would be it.

Revivalist (Revivalist), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

There was a new track released on a various artists thing recently, Scott and a nearly hysterical choir -- sounded tremendous, nothing like "The Drift". He's got PLENTY more.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

album of the year
but not quite as good as Tilt

hmmm...I don't agree. quite a lot of tilt hasn't aged that well, let down by some synths and production that seem a bit embarassing now. drift seems more timeless, more indefinable. the more organic sound helps it a lot. I know which one I listen to more.

There was a new track released on a various artists thing recently, Scott and a nearly hysterical choir -- sounded tremendous, nothing like "The Drift".

what compilation was this? I must obtain it!

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's on a 4AD release on the theme of the 10 plagues. Scott's is 'Darkness' and it is, um, dark.

I don't remember too much synth on Tilt.

Revivalist (Revivalist), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't been disappointed by this album at all.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

I agree that one of the great things about The Drift is the organic sound. It certainly gets the texture right. But Tilt seems a bit better structured and paced, to my ears.

Revivalist (Revivalist), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
oh fuck, i am listening to this properly for the first time. He should do the soundtrack to the next Silent Hill game.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Sunday, 21 January 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

pretty scary innit

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Sunday, 21 January 2007 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Terrifying! How can something so scarey and operatic sound so right? I normally hate this kind of thing when it's done by bands like say In The Woods or some other Goth/Metal but the fact it's by Scott Walker (whom I'm afraid to say I have only previously heard on the Scott 4) just makes it awesome.

Can anyone give insight into how/why he's decided to go down the road of nightmare soundscape operas in his old age? I'm not complaining, it's just so fricking bizarre for someone who used to be a 60s crooner.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Sunday, 21 January 2007 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

it's not a sudden change of direction, he's been heading down this road since "Nite Flights" (1978) at least.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 21 January 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

okay. i guess i need a bit of educating. it was such a shock for me you see.

just finished listening to the whole thing (i had to listen in sittings) and it is awesome. the donald duck voice! ARGH!

wogan lenin (dog latin), Sunday, 21 January 2007 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

i love Scott but i don't really listen to this. Tilt is much greater.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 21 January 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

It seems to be available as an "overstock" via Amazon. Did they overestimate its popularity? Seems like it would be an expensive mistake, what with the nice booklet and all.

BTW I have never really listend to this album properly. I wonder if I ever will.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

You should.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

I got it as a freebie download off emusic.

It actually is sort of what I expected, even though the only solo scott of this ilk that I know is "The Electrician" (i know, I know)..

As someone says, it is very "post-punk" gothic, and all the good for that.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

great album. I go back to it a lot. this weekend I listened to it on a plane. not recommended if you're a nervous flier.

"I'm the only one left alive."

mister the guanoman (mister the guanoman), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

That only put me in mind of the Dalek's "I am alone in the universe" off Dr Who, recently.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I've been waiting for someone to make an album like this all my life and I just didn't realise it. The fact that he can do something like this and not be panned as experimental quasigoth art wank is a miracle unto itself. IT's the equivalent of someone walking along a tightrope and nearly falling off every five seconds but somehow not. What he'd fall into is too awful to mention.

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

Unfortunately it received a worse critical treatment than the "experimental quasigoth art wank" drubbing you'd expect; it was patronised with three-star reviews and a general "oh it's just Scott" air as opposed to PROPER experimentation like er Joanna Newsom.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

really? online reviews have been mostly favourable I thought?

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Online yes, but not in print media.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Dunno, their Metacritic ratings are a dead heat:

http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/walkerscott/drift?q=scott%20walker#critics

http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/newsomjoanna/ys?q=newsom#critics

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 22 January 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

That Donald Duck voice at the end of the penultimate track makes me jump out of my skin every time i hear it!

wogan lenin (dog latin), Monday, 22 January 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

i gave it a good print review. and my word is law.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 22 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I saw the trailer for '30th century man' last night, it looks really good.

leigh (leigh), Monday, 22 January 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the trailer has been on the web for ages. i like listening to his interviews.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 22 January 2007 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

I ordered Tilt yesterday. I'm excited.

Ivan G (Ivan), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 03:07 (nineteen years ago)


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