Which are John Peel's 140 fave albums?

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excellent Cam, thanks a lot for this!

I'm guessing that this is in the box because he'd had a copy when he was in the States. Who knows, though. Hell, my record box contains a copy of "How Much is that Doggie In the Window" that I had as a kid.

patita (patita), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)

i'm not a peel fanatic either cam, so i truly have no clue about this... ferrier was a big fresh name in country boppity pop in the fifties but that single is a totally different style, nashville sound type of thing, from like 30 years later or something.. ?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

in any case you have raised the bar on contributions with that research i think!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

the Big Three track is on the Cavern Stomp lp under a different name... there's one on ebay and one on amazon with different tracklistings (import copy?):

Ebay:
1. Some Other Guy
2. Let True Love Begin
3. By The Way
4. Cavern Stomp
5. I'm With You
6. Peanut Butter
7. Bring It On Home To Me - Version 3 (studio/single) (a.k.a. If You Ever Change Your Mind)
8. You've Gotta Keep Her Under Hand
9. High School Confidential
10. What'd I Say (Live)
11. Don't Start Running Away (Live)
12. Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah (Live)
13. Reelin' And Rockin' (Live)
14. Bring It On Home To Me - Version 1 (Live/LP) (a.k.a. If You Ever Change Your Mind)
15. Bring It On Home To Me - Version 2 (Studio/Previously Unreleased) (a.k.a. If You ever Change Your Mind)

Amazon Version:
1. Some Other Guy
2. I'm With You
3. Let True Love Begin
4. By The Way
5. Cavern Stomp
6. Peanut Butter
7. Bring It On Home To Me
8. What'd I Say
9. Don't Start Running Away
10. Zip A Dee Doo Dah
11. Reelin' And Rockin'
12. You've Got To Keep Her Under Hand
13. High School Confidential

ebay version is cheaper but has a long lead time... amazon version has less tracks. decisions, decisions... amazon version also seems to be an 'officially licensed CDR'. ok, have gone for the ebay version. will let you know how i got on in 2006 8)

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 8 December 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

have also just ordered another copy of the revelino single. lets hope this one actually turns up and that it isn't another 74p wasted!

koogs (koogs), Thursday, 8 December 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

I have three of the missing songs on vinyl. I will try not be a lazy git & upload them this weekend. I will also try to send Mark the package I promised. For the record I Have:

Mighty Avengers
GL Crockett
Roshell Anderson (On it's way)

Bob

Bob Robinson, Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

It's gone a bit quiet here - have you all gone elsewhere?

Jon Dennis, Monday, 12 December 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

we're still here, but there's not a lot to add anymore as we're down to the very rare things. that said:

NEW!

http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24QOX7JQJ957S3PMSDUHVMRYFH

081 Step On High (we already have this but...)
081 Morereason

anon_andrews, Monday, 12 December 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

This is a fantastic post. Thanks to ezone for the soulseek connection. Currently downloading tracks now. charlieblimey is my username(or charlieblimey2 if your using the non-test version). I'll start sticking them up asap.

dean coster (charlieblimey), Monday, 12 December 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Hi. Another lurker here enjoying everyone else's work on this project. I just downloaded the Ferrier tracks thanks to the gentleman from UNC and was thinking about his "Why?" question and also why there is very little discussion of the music on this thread.
Perhaps it doesn't need to be said, but obviously this is not the definitive list of Peel's favorite songs, but rather 45's that meant something to him for some reason. Still I've found nothing but pleasure from all the tracks I've downloaded. It seems to me that what's so great about Peel is that for someone known as a taste-maker, his taste was always eclectic and intuitive and he was looking not for greatness so much as for singular moments of joy and charm. I came across this review of some Hornby book he did a couple of years ago and I thought I'd paste it here because it gives a good idea of some his thoughts on lists and favorites.

Wot? No Gene Vincent?

That's the great thing about lists. You just can't help arguing with them. John Peel runs a connoisseur's eye over Nick Hornby's 31 Songs

Sunday February 23, 2003
The Observer

31 Songs
by Nick Hornby
Viking £12.99, pp208

This is the first Nick Hornby book I've read. Shocking, but true. Surely, people have said, you must have read Fever Pitch. 'But it's about Arsenal,' I have replied, remembering the pain of the 1950 Cup Final, when they beat Liverpool 2-0. Happily, 31 Songs is not about Arsenal. And, of course, it is a list.

Men, it is often asserted, like lists, but speaking as a man I'm not sure this is true. Doing a little quiet but important research at a birthday party recently, I asked a number of men present whether they cared, in any special sort of way, for lists. It seemed they did not particularly, although they were quite interested in a) loft insulation and b) restoring vintage cars.


There was a time, about 15 years ago, when I wrote on popular music for this paper. For five years, I crisscrossed the country (at my own expense, I want you to know) reviewing everything from Bob Dylan at Wembley (awful) to post-punk bands with silly names I've forgotten in venues without a single one of the emergency exits required by law (often rather good).

The one thing I learnt from this - and it is something Hornby acknowledges early in his book - is that it is much easier to write about things you don't like than things you do. So this, being as it is a list - with extensive explanations that, on occasion, read like apologies - of the author's favourite records, must have been a bugger to write.

Hornby further acknowledges the frustration the music-lover can feel when people he or she is attempting to interest in the best bits of records simply won't listen. Only last week, fired by a positive review of yet another compilation of the early works of Gene Vincent, a review that majored on the astonishing guitar playing of 'Galloping' Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps, I attempted to interest a Radio 1 co-worker in Gene's 'Jump Back, Honey, Jump Back'. (There are no Gene Vincent records in Nick Hornby's Hot 31.)

'Why,' I marvelled, 'does Cliff start his solo from there and how, in a matter of seconds, does he get back to there?' But, despite the fact that 'Jump Back, Honey, Jump Back' is less than two minutes long, my colleague had lost interest and was talking about tops with someone else.

The feted author of High Fidelity and About a Boy is unusual, I think, in considering all of a song lyric rather than fragments. This is due, in part at least, to what he describes as his need to 'solve' songs; to, as it were, wrestle them to the ground, consider them in detail, extract from them their core meanings and by so doing achieve some sort of completion.

I'm not with him on this. Not at all. Two of the records that would be under consideration for a place on any comparable list I might make would be the Golinski Brothers' 'Bloody' and Roy Buchanan's version of 'Lonesome Fugitive', but I've never seriously attempted in-depth analysis of these songs as songs.

For me, it is enough that the Golinski Brothers' obscure but, trust me, unforgettable record includes the lines: 'Still you gotta have a laugh [pause] ha ha ha ha' and: 'Send my Giro to Cairo', and 'Fugitive' the couplet: 'I raised a lotta cane back in my younger days. My momma used to pray my crops would fail.' I mean, come on. Beat that.

And there's a bit in another Gene Vincent song, 'Gonna Back Up Baby', which is completely unintelligible, yet I love it. It sounds as though Gene is singing: 'Well, I'm gonna cuckmer cuckmunter you gahdin.' When I was younger and, frankly, a little crazy, I would play this bizarre extract to acquaintances and offer them my entire record collection if they could, without consultation, decipher the words. No one took me seriously and, of course, when I played them the track, they started talking about tops and other leisurewear within seconds of its starting anyway. I don't think 'Gonna Back Up Baby' lends itself to being 'solved', at least not by anyone outside protective custody.

But let's look now at Nick Hornby's 31. (By the way, I've forgotten why he picked 31 rather than the more conventional 20 or 40 or even 100. I think he just did.) His reasons for choosing each record are laid out at some length, otherwise there'd be no book, and if you don't like the songs yourself then his sophistries are not going to persuade you that you should.

I'm going to have to step out of the closet here and confess that there are 11 records listed that I simply don't know at all, and at least three I don't like. It would be a bit fatuous to list these, especially as one is by Bruce Springsteen and it seems to be Hornby's absolute all-time favourite and he has harsh things to say about people who don't like Springsteen (we're smart people who are dumb, it seems). Then there is, by a pretty coincidence, one artist and song listed - Rufus Wainwright and 'One Man Guy' - that I'd replace with the artist's father, Loudon, and 'Father and Son'. This song I always imagine to be about me and my son William, because the words fit so well.

But there are four tracks here that would at least make the Final Eliminators of any comparable list I might make. These are by Richard and Linda Thompson, OV Wright, Jackson Browne and, finally, the Velvettes. The last named is probably the only one that would be in my final 31. I think Nick Hornby and I would agree that you should hear it as soon as you possibly can. Trust us. And don't talk while it's playing.

Morris Dickstein, Monday, 12 December 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Hi Morris, there's another thread where we discuss the songs. I loved that Peel piece but hadn't read it since it came out so it was great to reread, esp since I'm now familiar with the Golinski Bros "Bloody," which has been stuck in my head quite a bit recently.

TRG (TRG), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Can someone repost
081 Step On High (we already have this but...)
081 Morereason
as it has expired already. Thanks

Andrew Sherman, Monday, 12 December 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

REPOST

081 Revelino:
http://s58.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1C1SDP3C0IPLO20G9ADTPH9G5S

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 12 December 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

OK folks, here are some more of the missing titles as promised.

There's a lot to love about this selection, some truly great music.....

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0U0YI7IXVLPHO3T29BPXNIGKYE
mickey lee lane
mike spenser and the cannibals
ray martin and his concert orchestra
the ramrods
rod bernard

http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=295QVNQT931YQ2HS2LJ1PRVK01
the squirrels
pocket fishrmen
legion of super heroes
the real pills

matt hodge, Monday, 12 December 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Matt, we are almost there, will we get this done till Christmas? Here is our current wishlist.

8 A-sides:

008 Arthur K Adams - Wildwood flower
027 Dreamland Express - Groovy
028 Easy Teeth - Car Noise
034 Firemen - Old smokie
052 Ken Colyer's Jazzmen - If I ever Cease To Love
086 Sasha Caro - Grade 3 section 2
090 Sipho Bhengu - Tickey dopies
094 Spit Out - O from I


17 or 18 B-sides (several songs on one B-side only counted once):

005 Anemic Boyfriends - Bad Girls in Love
008 Arthur K Adams - It's a wild, wild, wild, wild wildwood flower
021 Clague (aka Siren) - I wonder where
022 Clefs of Lavender Hill - First tell me why
027 Dreamland Express - u.f.o
034 Firemen - Louie's theme
037 G L Crockett - Did you ever love somebody
042 Greenhornes - Stayed up last night
052 Ken Colyer's Jazzmen - Bucket Got A Hole In It / Wildcat Blues / Wabash Blues
083 Roshell Anderson - Such a beautiful thing
086 Sasha Caro - Little maid's song
090 Sipho Bhengu - I saluti
094 Spit Out - Tan / Rot'n'roll
095 Stanley Winston - It's alright
099 The Big Three - If you ever change your mind
105 The Mighty Avengers - Something they say
125 Rizzo - Cathy
141 Yami Bolo - ???

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 12 December 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

With the exception of a few tracks, and with forthcoming contributions from Bob, Kevin and a few others, I think we are getting into the realms of the ridiculous in terms of the availability of this music. It will be interesting to see how this progresses from here.
I do have the Anemic Boyfriends and Clague singles but the condition of the vinyl is appalling (they were only ones i could find) and it's a bit of an insult to the artist to post them up. The Ken Colyer Exa 31 is on its way, as is the Big Three seven, so I will be able to post those up too when I get a chance. I'll do the missing Clefs of Lavender Hill B Side as I have a copy of that one now as well. Unfortunately though, I think it's a case of wishful thinking for this to be completed by Christmas but you never know.....

Matt Hodge, Monday, 12 December 2005 22:45 (twenty years ago)

It's a good day for the project ...

Clague (Siren) B side - I Wonder Where
http://s56.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24DPR4AKUD52W16SRTGOB0YW9D


TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)

Yes, what Andrew Sherman said about anon_andrews' post, please!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 03:09 (twenty years ago)

This may be totally irrelevant. I am looking at a picture of a Subway Sect show from 1976 at the 100 Club in London. Behind the band is a poster of upcoming shows, and the eye is drawn to an upcoming show: The Sex Pistols playing with Chris Spedding, the Clash, and the Damned. The next show? Ken Colyer's Jazzmen.

Cam Patterson (Cam), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

but i reposted that, tracer. and the ysi is still working.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

grovelling repost request...

anyone able to repost these that i seem to have missed?

bill oddie - on ilkley moor
white stripes - rated x
white stripes - bowling ball ruth

thanks!

whatever (boglogger), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

is that your real email address?

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

hey there
can anyone confirm (or deny!) that we're still looking for 125 rizzo 'cathy' as part of the 'it take's two' ep?
it seems to jump on & off 'wants' lists!

great effort everyone

keefus (keefus), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

We all need Rizzo.

TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

damn right!

keefus (keefus), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

does anyone know how long "Santa aint coming for christmas" should be. I have both a 4:30 and 2:34 version

Matthew Walker (thatkid225), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

got it, alex! thank you!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

The version of the MC5's "Looking at You" in the torrent is the wrong version. The one in the torrent is from the Jon Landau-produced Back in the USA (1970), and it's not nearly as bad-ass as the original "A-Square" single version (which is what was in Peel's box).

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20Y5RW8HK4F012IPK57I3SZ4Z1

This one was ripped from a Rhino comp called The Big Bang! Best of the MC5 (EAC/Lame --alt-preset standard).

elvissinatra (elvissinatra), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

You're right, that version is better. I assume it's the same one from the Roir release, know if that's true? I always thought every version from the Roir release was superior to the other ones.

TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

the version of borderline on bootleg cd called thunder express i think is the a-square b side its 3.14 min long
im on waitlist for it will post

new version of looking at you sounds so much better thanks for that es

ezone, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

details

http://www.jungle-records.demon.co.uk/jungle/freudcd071.htm

ezone, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

mc5 borderline

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3SHEUHQFWBT1G01G1OBEG7PNXN

ezone, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

amazing cover art on that mc5 single

http://makemyday.free.fr/a1.htm

ezone, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, I've been unable to download this week. I'll need to catch up in a bit.

Yeah, I suspected that version of "Borderline" was off the live album, not the single.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I've caught up now, apart from the Al Ferrier ones that expired before I saw them.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)

REPOST!!

al ferrier a+b

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1BJINQFF68GSS2FLBB4OD1J5EW

http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31GEWU39GONQK1A219V2X631E7

keefus (keefus), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

Thank S!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

One More .... Rizzo - Cathy

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BWPGPCAIBGJ30QX8PFS0SIFQ6

ezone, Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

thanks ezone!

whatever (boglogger), Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Hi,

I am still around & have purchased about 40 of the Peel singles on vinyl. Precious ones I have so far are The Factory, Boards of Canada & 3 of the 5 Charlie Feathers. Some of the rarer White Stripes stuff is really going to cost!! I have now worked out that I can play the vinyl into my Tascam digital recorder & then burn it onto CD & then upload. I have the songs on MP3 Windows Media Player. How do I attach to this email please!!!

Regards

Bob

Bob Robinson, Thursday, 15 December 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Here you go Bob:
http://www.yousendit.com/howdoesitwork.aspx

Youjust need to know where the song file is stored on your machine, and browse to the file through YSI.

You can then take the link that's given after a successful upload and paste it in the message here.

patita (patita), Thursday, 15 December 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

This is a test upload & not JP related. This band only ever sold 60 copies of their single in the UK. Yet one of those copies made it to a radio station in New York & received regular airplay so that are known by a few fans in the USA. Hope you enjoy it.

Bob

http://d52.yousendit.com/D/10MFAOCAKNU9J05VG0EZ8RG1WR/BFTE.wma

Bob Robinson (rob1nson), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2DW0Q030VMILG2AJK14NM8N0Y7

Bob Robinson (rob1nson), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

OK I am happy now. The second link seems to have worked. Forgive my uploading Boys From The East. I thought they were a fabulous little group from Bradford UK who had zero success in the uk in the early 1980's. By a miracle they seem to have been noticed in new York USA, which I only picked up from the ebay link below. (The band had no idea about this until I spoke to a member last week) By way of reparation, I will upload the Mighty Avengers & G L Crockett B Sides at the weekend. Roshell Anderson is on the way.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4797725547&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Bob Robinson (rob1nson), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

could we have another link to aldo's torrent? pretty please?

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

> By way of reparation, I will upload the Mighty Avengers & G L Crockett B Sides at the weekend. Roshell Anderson is on the way.

curses. my last day with decent net access until the new year and you go and do this! argh. 8)

koogs (koogs), Friday, 16 December 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

It ended up not working for anybody, so I'm going to retry it tonight.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 16 December 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

great work bob,
not wishing to sound picky, but is there any way of saving the files as mp3 rather than wma?

keefus (keefus), Friday, 16 December 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

OK, attempt 2.

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25YD0QA9KDMQC2QWO4YSDN8ZIT

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Hopefully this should be the Mighty Avengers & G L Crockett. Sorry files are WMA as I don't know hoe to convert to MP£. All this techy stuff is new to me!!!

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=096PEF6PUY8B62ZEH6OEU80VMQ

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0ZXM62M4G29KY1U53LBEC9CC1M

Bob Robinson (rob1nson), Saturday, 17 December 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)


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