Daft Punk - Human After All

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Lots of people like Daft Punk as a Pop act as opposed to or alongside a Dance act - as in they don't care about DP's status as one of a Big Five or whatever. I like that they want to be a bit of both.

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

"Primetime Of Your Life" is very Andrew Lloyd Webber, innit?

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean the first part

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been saying ELO

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Horace Wimp this is the primetime of your life mash-up not required plz.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

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― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

innit

We'll make a proper Anglophile out of you yet. Um, guv'nor, gorblimey etc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ow do you say, beezer?

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The secret to Daft Punk's success is that they are a duo like Carter USM, which warms the cockles of many an indie kid.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The secret to Daft Punk's failure (in this case) is that they forgot what funk was.

God. This album is such a fucking plod. Anyone who calls this a top ten album gets a confused shake of the head, anyone who calls this the best album of the year gets my derision, and anyone who calls this better than Discovery is my eternal enemy.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

It isn't twee = It is a better Daft Punk album than Discovery.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess Dan and I are your eternal enemies?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Good lord, we ARE the same brain.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. You go enjoy the house equivalent of Sea Change, OK?

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It isn't twee = It is a better Daft Punk album than Discovery.

um, no.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd understand someone saying its better than Discovery if they think Discovery is a poo hat.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer Discovery because it had some nifty singles

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. You go enjoy the house equivalent of Sea Change, OK?

OOOH BURN! (nb I never heard Sea Change)

Discovery didn't move me at all. It struck me as overly precious and cutesy.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I find you over precious and cutesy.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

You go enjoy the house equivalent of Sea Change, OK?

I actually kinda liked Sea Change!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i like Nate's 'Sea Change' comparison! he may be on the euros

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, let me put it this way:

It's 1996. Kevin Shields has announced a new MBV album. You get all lathered up over the tracklisting and a good first single, and then it turns out the rest of the album sounds like Ween.

I'm sorry if I'm getting all ill here (the exact opposite of me in the Push the Button thread, actually -- and THAT ALBUM IS BETTER THAN HUMAN AFTER ALL BY THE WAY), but when my favorite album of the last 7 years is followed up by a record that almost completely negates everything I liked about the previous one, I get all Hulk Smash.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

It's 1996. Kevin Shields has announced a new MBV album. You get all lathered up over the tracklisting and a good first single, and then it turns out the rest of the album sounds like Ween.

Hahah! But I LOVE Ween!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually kinda liked Sea Change!

Me too. But that's beside the point, good sir. Are we noticing some European daytime, almost all posts full of praise, nighttime falls and eurotrash wanna-be's like Ned and Dan are left alone fighting the vampires, sorta divide? ;) (Stevem on X suggested something like this upthread.)

― Omar (Omar), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I totally understand your problem with the precious and cutesy, Dan (I am NOT a Daft Punk fan), though I don't see how those elements aren't in Human After All, just in a more lifeless state.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually you know what suggestions about this album being lifeless etc. remind me of -- all the complaints almost five years back when Kid A came out and many people were "Ew! A cold heartless album!" When it was actually one of the warmest things they'd ever done to my ears! (Thus in this case the title track, "Make Love," "Emotion"...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah. You go enjoy the house equivalent of Sea Change, OK?

Nate, if you're at all making an analogy between this album and Sea Change, that's quite a gruesome insult of Sea Change.. and I'm hardly a Beck apologist, in fact quite the opposite. At least Sea Change was a concerted effort to reproduce Dan Fogelberg.. and i stress the word "concerted". Human After All isn't concerted. It's just sounds so tossed off and "aw fuck it, we don't give a fuck what are fans think. some will love it anyway, and some will hate it, but fuck it."

Damn, I thought even a little time would warm me towards Human After All, but I'm feeling more cheated and pissed off that this seemingly tossed off collection of dark synth gargle and second rate vocoding hiss was anything I had higher expectations for.

I think Daft Punk should have renamed themselves something else before releasing this... (like Ratatat.. haha) this is like the equivalent of hearing Echo and the Bunnymen's Reverberation, except all the original members (as far as we know) are still here. It's just... not right. fuck! why?

I can find the worst 10 New Beat tracks ever made, and I'd still enjoy that more than this album.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

"Share an mp3, plz, I'd be intrigued."
we might be taping it on a handheld tape recorder, in which case I'll do what I can.

"FD, where are you playing? I'd totally go see that."
It's just a Neutral Ground set. We haven't even practiced it yet (or even programmed the drums/bass), so I can't promise that it won't suck, but we've talked about it a lot over email, so we know exactly what we want to do. we're billed as scottie day and the nonpareils, though it's looking like all the other band members bailed out, so I am effectively the nonpareils. The rest of the songs are mainly just gonna be my friend playing his fun songs on acoustic guitar and me playing everything I own but my theremin. it's for 11pm if you're not doing anything else that night.

― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I would say Human After All is more static than Discovery and that the exercises in stasis are the antithesis of cutesy (the sole exception being "Prime Time Of Your Life" which SURPRISE SURPRISE is the track I would like to stab with knives).

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway, the reaction to this record is easily breaking down to the "Loved Discovery, hate this" camp, and the "eh on Discovery, this is groovy!" camp, more or less. I don't think anybody who loved Discovery likes this more, and vice versa.

"Prime Time Of Your Life" has that same slow shuffle that a lot of (the worst of) Kompact has... (SURPRISE SURPRISE.)

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

but donut they can't make an album for the fans can they?

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I understand very little about the new direction the thread has taken.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Make Love" is one of my favorite tracks on the album, but I can't hear "Emotion" as anything other than a prelude to an amazing disco version of "Tracks Of My Tears" and I get mad that it doesn't follow.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

you're right.. they can do whatever they want. they can probably afford to. again, i'm just feeling very cheated right now.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

dc otm re: difference between sea change and this.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

this is probably how XTC fans reacted after hearing Mummer for the very first time, I'm guessing.

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

comparing it to 'Push The Button' is interesting. i think there's more EFFORT in PTB and you'd hope so with more time being spent recording it. But does that make it better? I have a feeling I am going to be listening to Human After All more, though I find both have their moments (and fantastic moments they are) and any disappointment I have in either is about equal.

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

miccio, do you feel 'Feels Like Home' on Kish Kash more than 'Emotion'?

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the reaction to this record is easily breaking down

Mmm, no there's the "Discovery was amazing, but hey they're not going better that, still it's Daft Punk so instead they made another good album, big surprise" crowd. Me, Ronan and Ned, at least.

― Omar (Omar), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i love how this album makes me want to hear ANYTHING but it again. I'd actually like to revisit some of those string parts on Sea Change sometime. Beck was a snooze but his dad was in the zone.

not sure, Stevem. I made an EP out of my favorite tracks on Kish Kash ("Right Here's The Spot"/"Lucky Star"/"Plug It In"/"Kish Kash"/"Hot'n'Cold") and tossed the rest. I could make an assumption but its been a long time since I heard "FLH." I definitely feel Jaxx in general a lot more than DP.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

too much vs. too little

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, at least Daft Punk will have to release a DOUBLE LIVE album ne.. oh wait, they already did. They trumped the Foghat rule!

― donut christ (donut), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the thing is i ignored FLH for a while too but the last few times i've listened to it i'm quite awe-struck by it and can't help but feel 'Emotion' is rather 4:3 to FLH's 24:9 anamorphic surround sound. but perhaps i am wrong to keep comparing the two.

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, scratch the "too much vs. too little" thing. Jaxx has plenty of moments that feel thin to me over their career.

I may actually prefer "Emotion," which almost could be seen as some kind of parodistic commentary - using the chords of "TOMT" with ironic distance.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

too much vs. too little

that's the crux of it really. Kish Kash's density never bugged me as much as Human After All's minimalism does tho.

― Stevem On X (blueski), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah I'll stand by the TM vs. TL thing for Kish Kash vs. Human After All, just not both bands' entire career. And I definitely prefer the density.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

It was odd listening to "Primetime of Your Life" on the train this morning, especially as the train was slowing down and the schaffel beat was was speeding up.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

...except, Omar, I think Discovery isn't flat-out amazing per se -- more top-heavy with a hell of an opening and then after that it's sorta there, though often pleasantly there. The fact that this album is *shorter* than Discovery is already a plus for it -- I have no problem with long albums at all (c'mon, Mellon Collie is one of my favorite albums in all time and space!), but I think Daft Punk carry off longer tracks on their own better than they do a lot of them together.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

haha sorry if anybody's offended that I said "bands." just came out.

― miccio (miccio), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoa, if we're doing Kish Kash vs. Human After All = yay to both! Wow, that would be a great double bill, wouldn't it?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

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