You know what doesn't get enough love? The Mad Season album. It's pretty great imo.
Abso-fucking-lutely. That was a vibe that didn't get explored enough and I really wish they'd have managed a second album. The deluxe edition from 2013 is fantastic, I sued to have the Live at the Moore on VHS back in the day.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link
I was a listened to tons of grunge back in the day, but never listened to Mad Season. Listening now and it's really good and has a unique vibe.
The chorus of I'm Above really reminds me of the titular lines in Still of the Night by Whitesnake.
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link
God, I need to proofread my posts.
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link
For me Mad Season has a v specific “heroin” vibe, I find it hard to listen to unless I’m in the right mood might be just a me thing tho
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link
def not a stick on at any time kind of album yah
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link
AiC are kinda like that for me too tho.
They are not my favorite "grunge" band (Soundgarden4eva), but they might be the most grunge of all 90s bands.
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link
i wanted to do a grunge poll
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:42 (three years ago) link
Sign me the f up!
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:42 (three years ago) link
Yeah, this might be the ultimate "grunge" album. It just sounds like ... grunge. This or Screaming Tree's "Sweet Oblivion," maybe.
I was listening to "Badmotorfinger" the other night, and it's like the ultimate prog-metal album that isn't quite prog or metal. I think the key to Alice in Chains (or Screaming Trees, for that matter) are those vocals. Cornell is the best singer of the entire bunch, but it's that low, guttural Layne/Vedder/Lanegan wail that kind of defines grunge for me.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link
Totally agreed (and lol, because I went Mad Season > Dirt > Sweet Oblivion tonight). Soundgarden always my favorite grunge band, but AiC and Screaming Trees have such distinctive vocals.
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link
i would participate in a grunge poll!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 January 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link
Strangely I was in the middle of listening to dirt yesterday and felt a sudden urge to hear “outshined”. Good god, Cornell’s verse vocals there. “SOOO DOWN”with aic for sure it’s the vocals but also really solid songwriting, really nice melodic touches and cool middle eights and things
― brimstead, Friday, 15 January 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
I have somehow never listened to Mad Season and always mixed them up with Temple of the Dog!
― brimstead, Friday, 15 January 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link
Tracks or albums poll? Or both?
― pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link
Tracks, I would say, but I would do either. Maybe tracks with an album top-10 side poll?
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link
Cornell is just a monster. Staley has distinctive vocals, but it's also the treatment. They're double-tracked a lot, correct?
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
Tracks would be the main poll but would prob do albums too
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 15 January 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link
I'd be in for a grunge poll, albeit I suspect I don't know grunge as well as I think I do.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 15 January 2021 08:40 (three years ago) link
Which bands would be eligible in a grunge poll? Seattle only, or would it extent to eg Smashing Pumpkins?
― chap, Friday, 15 January 2021 08:46 (three years ago) link
shawn smith is a legend in my mind just for his contributions to the first twilight singers record and having a band with my name
first pigonhed and satchel albums are all-time for me
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Friday, 15 January 2021 09:39 (three years ago) link
S/T is exhausting, but the highs are high (pun not intended). Love the guitar sound, especially on Over Now.
― Mule, Friday, 15 January 2021 12:47 (three years ago) link
Over Now is a highlight.
― chap, Friday, 15 January 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link
Love Brad/Satchel/Smith, I'm sure I read somewhere years back that the band (Brad) were originally called The Crash Test Dummies, and faced with litigation they renamed the band after the 'other' TCTD's lead singer.
― Maresn3st, Friday, 15 January 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link
The disappearance of the vast archive of Shawn Smith stuff on Bandcamp is an odd one. Must be estate-related, I assume? In terms of where to start, Let It All Begin and Shield of Thorns are both lovely solo albums,
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 15 January 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link
I finally got around to look that up the other day, and was very disappointed to see it gone
― Mule, Friday, 15 January 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link
Listening to the Mad Season album for the first time makes me realise how SOULFUL a lot of grunge could be
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link
― chap, Friday, January 15, 2021 1:46 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
no pumpkins. honestly i was just thinking the big 4 (PJ, SG, Nirvana, AiC) and maybe any of their offshoots. i could be possibly be swayed. could just do a soundgarden poll tbf.
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link
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― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:42 (sixteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I signed up years ago to do a grunge poll but you are most welcome to take it off my hands or we could co run it.
― Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link
What about, like, Hole, Mudhoney, Green River, Mad Season, Tad, Screaming Trees, L7, etc.?
― pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
imo they all have to be in it
― Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
melvins too
Grunge was what got me into music aged 18 and I was into all those bands
― Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
What no Gruntruck?
Seriously though, Tad, Hole, Screaming Trees, Mudhoney, Stone Temple Pilots?
Lol, Xp
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
Agreed.
― pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link
I never counted STP as real grunge, lol
― Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link
Nor did I count Candlebox or Silverchair etc
― Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link
Aye, STP definitely the FM version. I think a 'looser' remit would be more interesting? It's not like we're going to start nominating Kyuss or Neil Young.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
stick to WA and it should be fine
― brimstead, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link
No to STP, yes to Hole and L7. If your debut record didn't come out before Nevermind was released, you're out, unless you were comprised of members of other grunge bands (so yes to Brad and Mad Season).
Like basically this should be Green River > Down on the Upside.
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
And god no Smashing Pumpkins. It's a grunge poll, not an alternative poll.
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
I just got a box set of Mudhoney's mid '90s albums (when they were signed to Warners) and they're surprisingly good. If people really do the homework (LISTEN TO TAD YOU MOTHERFUCKERS), this could be an interesting poll.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
i am already triggered by whats grunge/whats not lol DIDNT WE SORT THIS OUT 30 YEARS AGO
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
It's not that hard! Just leave the second wave grunge for the MTV Alternative Nation poll.
― Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link
This was the secret unlocked by the Afghan Whigs, by way of Ohio.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link
And Screaming Trees, too; not really much metal in either of those bands.
Yes to Mother Love Bone then?
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
yup
― Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link
Nice. I suspect Man of Golden Words would be fairly high on my ballot.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link
we probably have another 3 years until my turn for the grunge poll comes around anyway but as this is the year Nevermind turns 30, it deffo should run this year imo.
I have metal poll in the near future but spottie is more than welcome to run the grunge poll instead of me if he would like to
― Oor Neechy, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link