Thank you fgti, that was the most beautiful performance I have ever seen and now I am crying in public
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Friday, 1 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link
Glad you enjoyed it! The addition of the Element Choir (led by Christine Duncan) was incendiary
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 1 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link
Her book is also rather good, I thought!
― "Bi" Dong A Ban He Try (the table is the table), Friday, 1 January 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link
YES, the choir put it over the top for me. I'm down to check out more of their work for sure. xp
btw my use of "banger" above more or less in accordance with Prefecture's definition. That's what I meant.
― Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Friday, 1 January 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link
She performed with the choir in Ottawa when touring Retribution - it was great!
― Marconi plays the mamba (Sund4r), Friday, 1 January 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link
despite being otm, 'o superman' is a relentlessly terrible song
ha ha ha ha
― mookieproof, Saturday, 2 January 2021 03:42 (three years ago) link
No, I think you mean ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 2 January 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link
beautiful
― Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Saturday, 2 January 2021 04:22 (three years ago) link
Deflatormouse, you are totally correct on that one!
― Bill Bruford's drumbeat for "South Side of the Sky": proto-dubstep? (Prefecture), Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link
Very much agree, re: 'O Superman' and Laurie Anderson in general.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
Beta Band s/t is good as hell actually
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 2 January 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link
prob not controversial in 2020 ‘controversial music opinions if you’re time traveling to the year 2000’
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 2 January 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link
wasn’t it the beta band themselves who really hated it?
― brimstead, Saturday, 2 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link
anyway, I agree, will
― brimstead, Saturday, 2 January 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link
It was, and it was a dumb move. EMI hated them for it, I gave it a cursory listen at the time.
Now, I love it.
― Mark G, Saturday, 2 January 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link
I used to be colder on the second half but now I think the whole thing’s marvelous
― brimstead, Saturday, 2 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link
I got the deluxe version with the extra disc that was "supposed to be" an extra at the time. Don't bother.
― Mark G, Saturday, 2 January 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link
Obviously it's amazing. Not controversial at all. But nice
― imago, Saturday, 2 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link
huh maybe it was the band that was dissatisfied and loudest about itI felt like it got dunked on p hard on music nerd msg boards at the time
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 2 January 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link
but yes it’s v good. tbh I’ve got time for pretty much everything they put out
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 2 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link
Also correct
― imago, Saturday, 2 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link
it’s their Katy Lied (which is often days my favorite SD)
― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 2 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link
I think the reviews were bad because the band said it was bad, so etc.
So, emi dropped their efforts at promotion...
― Mark G, Saturday, 2 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link
The quality of Daft Punk albums is inversely proportional to their US chart placement
― Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Monday, 4 January 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link
Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night thinking about how there will never be a greater disconnect between Pet Sounds's deathless critical reputation and the honest-to-God nausea I experience whenever I hear it, barring a song or two.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link
thought we were friends ;_;
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
I'm sorry, Neandy. :(
But it's the critically acclaimed album that I outright hate the most, in no small part because I've wasted too many hours trying to understanding what the fuss is all about, in vain. Beyond the pioneering studio wizardry, the songs themselves (and the vomitive lyrics) are just so drippingly cloying that it's aural waterboarding to me. 'God Only Knows' is a total classic, though.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
Whatever you do, don't put your head on pom's shoulder.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link
I think it's got its fair share of criticism over the years btw.
― Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link
powerful take pom
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
it also made me realize that I never ever listen to pet sounds so I think you're onto something
I guess I missed it. Maybe I wouldn't be foaming at the mouth at the mere thought of it if I'd read some of these naysayers' screeds.
2xp
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link
pitchfork gave it like a 7 in the '90s
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
Imo it's more of a 3.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link
pom hates the beach
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link
Lies! I actually like some of their dumber, carefree surfin' material.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link
I like it but def wouldn't care if I never heard it again. The cult of Wilson's genius was p obnoxious in the late 90s/ early 00s. Whenever people reverently trotted out the "teenage symphony to God" line (about Smile but often applied to PS too ime), I was like "does that actually sound appealing to you?"
― rob, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link
lol, exactly.
― pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link
I feel like (and I'm not talkin about pom's take here) the whole "Pet Sounds isn't REALLY THAT GREAT, it's OVERRATED" has become the du jour take that supplanted "Pet SOUNDs IS TEH BEST BEACH BOYS EVER" in the last few decades. Pom's is unique cos he's saying it outright sux. I can appreciate that boldness.
It's not really a thing here because the Beach Boys discussion on these boards is some of the finest I've seen on the interwebs, particularly Shakey's poll series for each album. but I am tired of being bombarded w/ "b-b-b-but did you know there are better albums than Pet Sounds" whenever I talk about that album in hipster company. I have all of their albs other than Holland and any of their 80s output, I don't need to be talked to like a n00b!
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link
I do however love Pet Sounds, particularly the aforementioned "Put Your Head On My Shoulder", "God Only Knows", "You Still Believed in Me", etc. but usually my favorite BB is the one I have on. even the early car/beach albums which most critical folk sneer at are really good, though there are a lot of tracks that appear on more than one album.
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link
I still have an unresolved dispute with Shakey regarding the Beach Boys
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link
about How She Boogalooed It?
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
had to do with the recording process during the Pet Sounds era, it was very trivial, but for some reason stuck in my craw for years
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
is Shakey gone forever because people accused him of abusing a subway sandwich or a trucker hat? I can never keep track of ancient ILX beefs
― All cars are bad (Euler), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link
There's no critical approach anyone can take to Pet Sounds that someone else isn't going to find hackneyed or outrageous or both.
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link
man I love pet sounds. I listened to smile again recently and it really is a damn masterpiece. I didn’t think I even knew it really well but I knew the whole thing by heart! So many amazing melodies and imagery-inducing arrangements
― brimstead, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
I have never listened to Pet Sounds all the way through - or any BBs album - because all I need is "Don't Worry Baby" and "Good Vibrations." And I only need to hear either of those two songs about once a decade each.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link
everybody needs “til I die”
― brimstead, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
xposts Shakey posted this very ill-advised thread: True or False: Every sexual assault accusation must be believed
He got shit for it, which I can't blame anybody for.
milo calling him "rapey mo" and posting a 10+ year old crepey post he made under his old dn seems to be what made him leave outright though.
― Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP5-jp6nbsM
― Copybara / pasteybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:29 (three years ago) link