very much enjoyed that doc
― Change Display Name: (stevie), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
The high harmony on sweet Virginia - I always thought that was maybe one of the various guys in the studio who happened to be next to a mic. But the doc shows that it’s Keith
― calstars, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link
Yep! Don’t sleep on Keith’s harmonies, he has a really nice high register (or used to)
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link
Yea I mean I’ve been a fan for years, just never heard that particular timbre I guess coming from old keef
― calstars, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
i loled at Wyman crying about not having Branston Pickle or whatever while staying in the south of France
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
haha
― map, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link
omg yes i just watched the doc yesterday and was like that is the most Wyman thing, pouting about fkn PG Tips & “french milk is shit”
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link
Haha yeah, i got flashbacks of Nick Mason moaning endlessly about apple pies 'with no crust' in '.. Pompeii'.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link
I missed the last revive. Will absolutely watch that in the near future.
― peace, man, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link
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this is englishness incarnate btw
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 10:12 (three years ago) link
am reminded of that Python sketch with eric idle going on about brits abroad moaning of the absence of watney's red barrel
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 10:13 (three years ago) link
playing it late and I got as far as All Down the Line before my daughters sent me to bed
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, November 30, 2019 5:21 AM (one year ago)
last night, after getting my daughter ready for bed, I left my phone sitting on her dresser with this album playing... I dozed off in the armchair to "Casino Boogie" and woke up in an empty room to "Let it Loose." good little nap :)
btw, there are some hot takes of a few of these songs on the Ladies and Gentlemen 1972 tour album (...plus a bunch of other songs that are not from Exile, and thus less notable).
― tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Friday, 3 September 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I just watched that film a few days ago. (Sadly the BD seems to have fallen OOP!) One of my favorite concert films. Granted the filmmaking isn't particularly special, the sound is a little muddy and the detail and focus in the picture isn't great (it's not a brightly lit stage like in the Some Girls: Texas '78 film), but the picture and sound quality is still a more than adequate - like if it was a bootleg it would be stupendous. It simply captures great performances from arguably the greatest Stones tour.
― birdistheword, Friday, 3 September 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link
Anyone ever notice that 2:32 into "Exile" someone audibly sniffs into the microphone? Seems fitting giving it's the start of this album.
― Wally P. Doyle, Monday, 27 December 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link
Er, into "Rocks Off."
joe's got a cough, sounds kinda rough
― mookieproof, Saturday, 15 January 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link
and "loving cup," man, still a mystery how it gets from point a to point b. there's a point early on where keith's rhythm anticipates the horn charts. i think that's the key.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:55 PM
OK, I hear this now (I didn't get it before)
― A really interesting songwriter is Billie Eilish and her brother. (morrisp), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 06:44 (two years ago) link
People are always debating what a single LP White Album would look like, but I don’t see much discussion of Exile. Let’s say it’s 1972, and you’re the label rep who has been tasked with reducing Exile to a single record. What goes on your version?
― blatherskite, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 15:59 (two years ago) link
despite all three being great I could lose the songs after All Down the Line. I don’t suppose that’s going to make it a single record though
― OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 16:07 (two years ago) link
Rocks OffRip This JointTumbling DiceHappySweet VirginiaLoving Cup
All Down the LineVentilator BluesLet It LooseShine a LightSoul Survivor
― whitehallunity, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link
‘People took so many drugs, they forgot they played on it’ – stars on Exile on Main St, the Rolling Stones’ sprawling masterpiece
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/may/09/drugs-exile-on-main-st-rolling-stones-sprawling-masterpiece-50-rocks-off-cote-dazur
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 10 May 2022 16:48 (two years ago) link
Rocks OffShake Your HipsTumbling DiceTorn and FrayedLoving Cup
HappySweet VirginiaAll Down the LineLet It LooseShine a LightSoul Survivor
― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 17:10 (two years ago) link
if you take the full set of situations in which a musician really doesn't remember playing on a recording (for example, david bowie and a lot of station to station, i think?), i wonder what percentage of them fall on the Better than average recording side and how many on the Worse.
trick question. if you don't remember playing on a recording that sucks, either no one will tell you about it later, or they will and you won't believe it.
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 17:12 (two years ago) link
Supposedly Alice Cooper can't remember making about three of his early 80s albums.
― Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 17:46 (two years ago) link
Side one1. Rocks Off2. Rip This Joint3. Shake Your Hips4. Casino Boogie5. Sweet Virginia
Side two1. Happy2. All Down The Line3. Stop Breaking Down4. Sweet Black Angel5. Ventilator Blues6. I Just Want To See His Face
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 10 May 2022 18:10 (two years ago) link
I think this record would lose a lot of the balance between weird murk and pop if you trimmed it more than a few songs. Side three after Happy is what makes the album really strange and more than just a long Stones record; I love the way Let It Loose builds up out of the uncomfortable swirl of See His Face. The other thing about it is there is a lot less difference here between the really polished and studio-sweetened stuff and the half-written stuff. It really does all kind of blend together way more than their other records since and maybe including Aftermath. So I say just lose Torn and Frayed and Stop Breaking Down and call it good. If you need to make it no longer than Aftermath, I guess you could go 14 tracks, and also lose Casino Boogie and Soul Survivor.
On the other hand, Goats Head should have been a double with all the weird reject songs they'd been sitting on sprinkled around it Physical Graffiti-style, songs like Traveling Man and the stuff from side two of Metamorphosis. I wouldn't mind Angie so much if it segued into Cocksucker Blues.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:20 (two years ago) link
People are always debating what a single LP White Album would look like, but I don’t see much discussion of Exile
because there's a *ton* of filler/bullshit on the white album and almost none on exile
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:29 (two years ago) link
Sounds about right.
― Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:32 (two years ago) link
Ironically a lot of shorter Stones albums have way more filler/bullshit on them than Exile.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:32 (two years ago) link
So I say just lose Torn and Frayed and Stop Breaking Down and call it good.
I could live without Stop Breaking Down but Torn and Frayed??? The song that came on the radio the other day and prompted me to soliloquize to my indifferent children about the greatness of this album? Madness.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:47 (two years ago) link
otm
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:52 (two years ago) link
Yeah torn & frayed is great. I love how he says “BORdellooos”
― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:56 (two years ago) link
"Casino Boogie" is the one song that I would absolutely keep no matter what else stayed or went.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 00:57 (two years ago) link
I like Torn a lot, but it happens to be like my 15th favorite song on the record. The lines about Codeine are great, the lines about letting the music save you are not really my cuppa tea. I think Happy was recorded before the rest of the album. Maybe we can squeeze Torn and Frayed in if we make Happy a non-lp single that came out before the album.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:00 (two years ago) link
Happy was recorded at Nellcote, vocals at Sunset Sound. Earliest song on the album might be Let it Loose (backing track purportedly recorded during the Let It Bleed sessions in early 69).
― whitehallunity, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:06 (two years ago) link
"Lovin' Cup" was Let It Bleed-era too--Stanley Booth mentioned they ran through it at Muscle Shoals (but didn't record it)--and supposedly "Shine A Light" was started back in '67.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:29 (two years ago) link
"Torn and Frayed" is an essential part of the soul of the album imo. it could have ended up annoying and self-pitying in a "Walk of Life"/"Sultans of Swing" kind of way, and it is kind of the album describing itself, but the fact that it's so obviously Mick singing about Keith saves it and makes it beautiful. And the "Joe's got a cough" verse is as succinct and pithy a summary of the opioid epidemic as you can get, a quarter-century early.
Songs I could live with losing from the album are Stop Breaking Down and Soul Survivor. If I had to take out more, maybe Shake Your Hips and Turd on the Run as well, but that's pushing it.
― Lily Dale, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:31 (two years ago) link
People are always debating what a single LP White Album would look like, but I don’t see much discussion of Exilebecause it RULES which of your children would you kill to create a perfect family
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:39 (two years ago) link
A question I've mulled
― assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:50 (two years ago) link
NOT
"Lovin' Cup" was Let It Bleed-era too--Stanley Booth mentioned they ran through it at Muscle Shoals (but didn't record it)--and supposedly "Shine A Light" was started back in '67.― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, May 10, 2022 9:29 PM
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, May 10, 2022 9:29 PM
Very true, but I didn't mention those two as the versions on Exile were done later at Olympic/Nellcote, whereas Let it Loose is apparently the same recording from back then.
― whitehallunity, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:50 (two years ago) link
“Torn and Frayed” is pivotal (to Exile, to the Stones, to the ‘70s).And the filler on Exile is no more filler than that of the white album. It’s not filler (at least, not in the sense that, say, 1/4th of Tales From Topographic Oceans is) (by design, as Atlantic told Yes they wouldn’t release a 3-sided album); to paraphrase Kirk Hammet (‘s take on the uneven-at-best 2112), it’s all part of the journey.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 01:54 (two years ago) link
plug in, flush out and fire the fuckin' feed
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:08 (two years ago) link
having just listened to torn and frayed i can only suspect that mig is secretly LJ, who is legendary for his horrible taste
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:33 (two years ago) link
I never ever understand people who want to trim double albums. Indulgence -- wading around -- is the point.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:41 (two years ago) link
― Lily Dale, T
Love the latter: a masterpiece without exertion. Will keep "Stop..." on the strength of Jagger's electric rhythm work, which will get more prominent on later albums.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:44 (two years ago) link
xp nominate this for an Alfred Tenet
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:45 (two years ago) link
can 100% understand thought experiments about removing rocky raccoon and honey pie from the white album listening experience - especially in pre-CD era
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 02:47 (two years ago) link
there are definite weaker moments but looking at the tracklist total that's no slight. i could never have a version of this album where "ventilator blues" didn't go into "i just want to see his face."
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 11 May 2022 03:38 (two years ago) link
a million times this
― politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Wednesday, 11 May 2022 08:46 (two years ago) link