Yeah, ripple effect
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
The Vinyl Rewind guy just made about an hour's worth of decent videos on his YT channel on Animals, he did The Wall a little while ago so he may perhaps be working backwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9veUZPbC0g
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
Not that I'm saying that has anything to do with its recent blip in interest.
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
iirc i did a discog run at the beginning of the pandemic, but that may have been inspired by seeing this thread in the SNA a lot
never a bad time to remind yourself that pink floyd rules
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 December 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link
Pink Floyd whut? (puts hand to ear)
― the thing that the angry Left forbids (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link
PINK FLOYD RULES
― pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
This thread must be quite infuriating for the naysayers.
Not really. I am a naysayer but not minding this thread.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
Happy to hear it.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
It would be a good bit to hate on Pink Floyd but in exactly the manner of a 1970s british punk as though time had not passed since then
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link
I have my hands full hating Zappa, The Dead and Stoner, so I give Floyd a pass.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 December 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
I will mostly credit this thread for getting me to listen to The Pink Floyd approx. 10,000% more this year than the rest of my life. (Grew up with a slightly irrational hate of 'em.) Also, good 'headphones music', which the times call for.
How good is Animals btw.
― Pre-Raphaelite Brah (King Boy Pato), Friday, 18 December 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link
Animals RULES
― the thing that the angry Left forbids (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
Animals gives me bad bad vibes, it’s not something I can listen to often
― brimstead, Friday, 18 December 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, December 17, 2020 12:17 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Floyd is an interesting band in that I associate them with acts like this, but they are conceptually a band (post Meddle) about musical restraint
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
man do I ever feel this...a quandary because it's *also* in some ways what I think of as the "best" Floyd record(?)
But yeah if I'm feeling even remotely vulnerable to a personal downturn...no.
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link
the vibes get even worse post-Animals: The Wall & The Final Cut are some of the best-selling bummer records ever made.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 18 December 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link
the restraint is my problem. I'm told they're this far out pretentious avant garde space prog band and then I hear DSOTM and it's just so tasteful
― Left, Friday, 18 December 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
musically that is, conceptually they're far from tasteful or restrained
― Left, Friday, 18 December 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link
For pretension, avant-garderie, space and prog go directly to Ummagumma.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 18 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
I like that one. well I like the live part and I want to like the rest more than I do
but I get bummer vibes from most of their post Barrett stuff. I thought I had a bleak and cynical view of the world
― Left, Friday, 18 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
Still not a fan, but am willing to give them a chance because that bummer part is intentional on their part, as opposed to others I mentioned.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
parts is parts
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
I sort of think of them as 5 eras:
Syd eraSyd-Meddle/Obscured by CloudsDSOTM-AnimalsWall-Final CutGilly 80s/90s revival
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
1. great2. interesting3. respectable4. no5. I don't know
― Left, Friday, 18 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
Like I could appreciate the glum disco of “The Wall” as a kind of anti-Bee Gees.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 December 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
I don't get as bummed by these records because I bought when they came out, I was 10-13 years old, they had poppy elements and I hadn't yet had sufficent personal darknesses (!) to hear them that way.
Animals otoh which I heard much later is just relentlessly bleak and brown (?) and sounds like it wants me to walk off a pier
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 18 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
...with a stone tied around your neck.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 18 December 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
I like "Wish You Were Here" but after "Obscured By Clouds" they're mostly a tasteful 70s rock band, a kind of glum Dire Straits. Not a terrible thing to be necessarily but a long way from space rockin'.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Friday, 18 December 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
I can't, for the life of me, hear what's so special about "Animals". Not that it's bad, it's perfectly listenable.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Friday, 18 December 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
lol @ "glum Dire Straits", I disagree but that's a fair shot
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 18 December 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
love over gold / brothers in arms dire straits is kinda Pink Floyd combined with Bruce Springsteen
― brimstead, Friday, 18 December 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
Operative word is “glum.” xp
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 December 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link
In the New Year I resolve to type xp less often
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link
I tend to find Pink Floyd’s restraint yields no small amount of empty spaces, which is perhaps truer to the ‘cosmic’ label that so many of their peers were going for.There’s also far more going on structurally than in Dire Straits’s music, although the comparison is hilarious precisely because there’s a grain of truth to it.
― pomenitul, Friday, 18 December 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link
I can imagine Waters writing The Man's Too Strong.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 18 December 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
IDK, what Dire Straits songs put that comparison in mind? To me they seem very opposite, dry vs wet, taut vs expansive, blunt vs smooth etc.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link
There is definitely something about the moodiness of Floyd that I am starting to remember "this is why I haven't listened to them for a while." I played Dogs on repeat every time I listened to music for like a week straight and it really started to impact my mental well-being.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link
I do think there is a kind of similarity btw Gilmore and Knopfler in a sort of tonal "cleanliness," something very Guitar Center in the sound
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link
like no doubt at this moment some happy bachelor is demo-ing his new Wharfedale's w an album by one of these two artists
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link
guitar center is generally 8 dudes playing different scrawling horrific metal tone distortion all over walls melding into one giant tension headache cacophony more than david gilmour or dire straits tastefulness
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link
thats' true, this guy is deep in the weeds at Steve Hoffman, he doesn't even risk playing these records except on very special occasions
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:47 (three years ago) link
ums technically correct, but Hadrian VIII was correct in spirit.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
both groups both touchstones of tone attorneys
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
yes it's like the Platonic ideal of what a Guitar Center could be like if all their customers subscribed to Mojo
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
honestly a lot of those guys probably turn up their nose at guitar center's off-the-rack mass produced stuff, you need that boutique, hand-wired shit and 70s les pauls and strats
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link
Gilmour plays slowly though, something I have never heard anyone in a guitar center attempt to do
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
The archetypal guitar center sound is distortion not cranked loud enough so that you can hear the awful acoustic slapping sound of the electric guitar strings with a very thin layer of noise on top.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 December 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
are we harshing the Floyd rules thread, I do like Pink Floyd ok
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 18 December 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link