well I thoroughly enjoyed the Fiona Apple interview they were polluting, but I take your point
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 07:14 (three years ago) link
I mean, generally how it works is if you can't sell ads you farm out that space to served ads which you don't necessarily control what shows
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link
also lmao like any media outlet can afford to be snooty about who's paying the bills in 2020
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link
it's actually kind of infuriating honestly, people hate paywalls but then bitch about ads
I only loathe their beer promo articles like Margo Price knows more about beer than you wtf man i don't care about any of that
― black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
the beer thing is mystifying, everything I've read is so awkward and forced
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
can't wait until full legalization and they start a cork sniffer weed column. that should be good for a few laughs.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link
I've never clicked on any of the October things... do they tie in product names? Or does it bring you to a page with relative ads outside of the content?
― Evan, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
https://oct.co/essays/weekly-beer-releases-december-6th-12th
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link
fwiw, i am pretty sure margo price does know more about beer than i do
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
I'm still kinda surprised that out of all the various Pitchfork spinoffs/partnerships that have happened over the years, October seems to be the one that has lasted the longest.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
Your album opener “Dead Writer” mentions drinking. Have your drinking tastes changed over time?
Totally non-socipathic question to ask about these lyrics:
"Pour the booze down the drainCuz I don’t want to disappoint you anymore"
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
^OMG!
Btw - how do people even find these "newly released" craft beers? Do they order them via mail? (I'm a beer guy, but I just pick from the usual selection in the local stores.)
― good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
omfg to that question! what is wrong with them
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
Maybe the lyrics were about her worrying her house guests were judgmental about her pedestrian choices in beer.
"Margo are you kidding me? A Citrus Gose in late fall? I will not drink something lighter than amber during sweater season you fucking idiot"
― Evan, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
/essays/weekly-beer-releases-december-6th-12th
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
tbh brent dicrescenzo probably could have written a kinda funny essay about weekly beer releases
(also, there are weekly beer releases?)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
is brent dicrescenzo rich? did ryan schreiber and whoever else cashed out every go back and hook up the people and colleagues who got him to a place where he could cash out?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link
Nick Sylvester married the Queen of All Sports Media, Mina Kimes, so he's doing fine.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
"As a recovered alcoholic, what was your favorite lager when you went on relationship-destroying benders?"
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link
xpost woah i didn't know that Kimes, I have noticed for her segments from home on ESPN since quarantine she has a prominently placed Pavement Wowee Zowee poster in it background
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link
"Look, just answer a few awkward beer questions and you can say that Pitchfork interviewed you. Sound good?"
― jmm, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link
I swear almost all of them I've read the person is like eh I'm not super into beer
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link
lol yeah i forget who but i remember seeing one where the person was like "on tour we just ask for 'good local beer' backstage but we dont really pay attention to what it is when we're drinking it"
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link
Yeah, this is still crazy to me. October launched in January of 2017, which means it's been around for almost four years now and has outlasted The Pitchfork Review (35 months) and Altered Zones (16 months).
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link
October has a clear target market for advertising and sponsored content
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link
Maybe Dr conde-naste made it very clear that he wanted a hip beer vertical as part of the acquisition, and it’s understood that October can never end
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 December 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link
Guys, Anheuser-Busch InBev floats the entire operation
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 10 December 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link
It's like asking why Red Music Academy exists
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 10 December 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link
*Red Bull Music Academy
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 10 December 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
Baffling stories about the October/beer articles...but yeah sponsorships are ruining music writing operations in 123
― black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
The funny thing about October is that I know a ton of huge beer nerds all over the country and not one of them reads October, in fact I would wager than 90% of them don't even know it exists.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
https://fridaybeer.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/dscf1308.jpg
― im-polite-post-post-post-pomo (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
feel like October definitely seems aimed at music ppl who are curious about spending money on expensive beer rather than ppl who are legit fancy beer nerds
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
definitely doesn't feel as inside baseball or in the weeds with the industry as a real enthusiast would want
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link
is that beer as nasty as it looks
― Left, Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
they finally heard enough from the sault stans lol
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 24 December 2020 08:57 (three years ago) link
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, December 10, 2020 10:45 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
ditto
― Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 24 December 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link
is pfork's ignoring / downplaying of sault because they're not from the u.s.?
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 24 December 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
“Because they’re not from the US” seems like a pretty unlikely conspiracy theory considering pitchfork’s history
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
i'm not proposing a conspiracy theory. i'm just trying to think of an explanation because their ignoring of one of the year's most acclaimed acts is completely puzzling.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
Occam's Razor answer: shit sometimes falls through the cracks
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
Austin, think of it like the Grammy Awards (an institution that I know you revere)—sometimes deserving artists are denied recognition, or their recognition is delayed, but we’re all happy for the artists when it arrives!
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
Has Pitchfork ever championed acts like Sault?
― DJP, Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
I'm trying to think of acts like Sault
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link
Moses Sumney and Michael Kiwanuka come closest imo
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link
yeah definitely, Sault kinda unique in that zone for taking on more post punk/nyc early 80s art scene vibes8.2 with no BNM was pretty funny though, like they were specifically trolling this thread
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 December 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
In certain ways it actually sounds extremely pitchfork to me which I think is why its exclusion was jarring ... a lot of the stuff musically it’s cycling through feels extremely on brand for it, and the way it’s using using those sources is in parallel w other pastiche acts its celebrated in the past imo
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 24 December 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link
Cross post w matt
I don't hear contemporary analogues to "I Just Want to Dance," though -- Instant Funk, Champaign, or Ashford & Simpson but with a hip-hop ethos maybe?
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 December 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link