there's some scores in this house
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/best-songs-2020/
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 December 2020 14:33 (five years ago)
25. 100 gecs: “hand crushed by a mallet (remix)” [ft. Fall Out Boy, Craig Owens, and Nicole Dollanganger]
listen i love fall out boy but lmao at people voting for this shit
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 December 2020 14:42 (five years ago)
fwiw breastcrawl, Pitchfork seem to have gone all in on afrobeats this year...we'll see I guess
― rob, Friday, December 4, 2020 5:00 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink
this manifested in one (1) song by burna boy
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 December 2020 14:42 (five years ago)
lol I was just about to post "guess I was wrong about pfork + afrobeats" though ftr there's an Amaarae song too
― rob, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:45 (five years ago)
i saw amaarae, but there's no afro influence on the song they picked
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 December 2020 14:46 (five years ago)
i should say that the song isn't informed at all by the kinds of sounds that populate the rolling afro thread
I will be p surprised if Made In Lagos and Twice As Tall aren't on their albums list, but yeah it's a very parochial list, though I'm bored myself of making that observation now
― rob, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:47 (five years ago)
well, Amaarae has been on the rolling afro thread several times, and I think that argument can get dicey pretty fast but I get what you're saying.
― rob, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:49 (five years ago)
anyway, the real clear signal is that awful line about Fela in the BB write-up: no capacity for thinking about this music as anything other than continent-wide representation
― rob, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:50 (five years ago)
wow the p4k list feels particularly uninteresting this year
also very confused by "what's your pleasure?" being the jessie ware track to place ???
― ufo, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:55 (five years ago)
p4k liked afrobeats more last year with burna & davido getting BNMs. this year it's just been amaarae i think.
― ufo, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:59 (five years ago)
fireboy got BNM, but he didn't make the list
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:01 (five years ago)
I think that argument can get dicey pretty fast but I get what you're saying.
― rob, Monday, December 7, 2020 9:49 AM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah i know, which is why i tried to hedge haha. at any rate, that particular track that they picked has elements of pitch-shifted alt-r&b that fits very snugly into p4k's milieu.
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:03 (five years ago)
oh you're right about those BNMs, shit I'm probably also wrong about those albums placing then, oh well
― rob, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:04 (five years ago)
the combinations of the words "fall out boy" and "remix" have produced some of the worst music I've ever heard
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:08 (five years ago)
lifestyle magazine Pitchfork's list has a lot of problems but at least it's correctly identified the best track on the Fiona Apple album
― imago, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:10 (five years ago)
oh right i forgot about fireboy. only burna made the albums last year so probably fireboy or amaarae will i guess, but the don't seem to have gone all-in compared to last year or anything.
― ufo, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:10 (five years ago)
I posted about the Amaarae album on the Rolling R&B thread yesterday myself as a matter of fact
― fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:11 (five years ago)
baffled by their love of Dogleg
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:13 (five years ago)
"money machine" was only #61 last year so i'm guessing the shitty fall out boy remix placing much higher (and the remix album scoring better) is because way more pitchfork writers are paying attention to 100 gecs now lol. guess they were slow on the uptake?
― ufo, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:14 (five years ago)
but at least we now have clarity about Masego: he’s a “future-soul artist”!(he’s on the Kehlani track that placed)
― fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:15 (five years ago)
would also like to politely enquire why waxahatchee is still a thing
― imago, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:16 (five years ago)
They really erase the good will I have toward them as a useful way to keep track of a decent (but not comprehensive; don't start yelling at me) cross-section of music throughout the year with these lists. I think the "WAP" blurb made me dislike that song even more than I already did; why is it "a feat that the song exists at all"?
― rob, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:18 (five years ago)
this year's waxahatchee album was pleasant but i was quite surprised just how acclaimed it's ended up being?
also p4k's biggest blindspot is still sault. even the rest of the us press is starting to catch on!
― ufo, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:24 (five years ago)
https://www.popmatters.com/best-albums-of-2020-2649094823.html
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:29 (five years ago)
xpI like Sault a lot, but given how determined their fans are around here, I'm starting to find Pitchfork ignoring them amusing
― rob, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:30 (five years ago)
I liked those two Sault albums well enough, but they felt a bit… basic? Like a few extra sonic tricks would increase their replay factor; maybe some more adventurous songs as well. I get the sense that the best is yet to come.
― pomenitul, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:33 (five years ago)
P4K’s list is surprisingly decent.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:37 (five years ago)
PopMatters list looks boring. I might check out the Ital Tek, though.
― pomenitul, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:39 (five years ago)
there’s more stuff i haven’t heard on the pitchfork list than usual, idk if that means they dug a little deeper or i just read the site less
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:42 (five years ago)
i like both, but the Waxahatchee album makes me *feel* more in about 30 seconds than both Sault records combined
― alpine static, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:43 (five years ago)
The Quietus mustered a jazz shortlist:
https://thequietus.com/articles/29308-nate-wooley-susan-alcorn-eric-revis-jazz-review
Of those I've heard, I liked the Anna Högberg Attack the most.
― pomenitul, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:48 (five years ago)
I just listened to 30 seconds of Waxahatchee and it's true I did feel ~something~
imo, Sault are classicists--so I have a hard time imagining a more adventurous version of them--but they're very much invested in feeling
― rob, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:48 (five years ago)
judging from p4k’s instagram comments, waxahatchee is probably gonna win the site’s reader poll
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 December 2020 15:56 (five years ago)
I got the sense, as I was listening, that a single spin was enough to exhaust each song, in no small part because of their self-consciousness directness. There was no mystery, no ambiguity, which is a near-dealbreaker as far as I'm concerned. I love the sound palette they draw upon, though, and Cleo Sol in particular is a great vocalist.
xp
― pomenitul, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:56 (five years ago)
The Wire lists are out. Top 5 albums are Beatrice Dillon, Moor Mother, Mourning A BLKstar, Bob Dylan and Duma
― fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:03 (five years ago)
Seconded – I'd love to see the full lists as well.
― pomenitul, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:04 (five years ago)
― pomenitul, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:56 (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i think this rather neatly explains my lukewarm response to Sault as well
― imago, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:10 (five years ago)
#50 Fleetwood Mac "Dreams"
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-songs-2020-1097442/fleetwood-mac-dreams-tiktok-1097741/
― Frozen CD, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:18 (five years ago)
pom, i think your criticisms apply to (black is), but less to (rise), which I greatly prefer
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:21 (five years ago)
Really glad to see the JD Allen album show up on the Quietus jazz list. It's a great record, but exactly the kind of thing that falls through the cracks because there's no hook or gimmick for a critic to latch onto; it's just three guys playing really, really well together in a traditional style — if you like circa-1964 John Coltrane, you'll like Allen — but absolutely putting their own spin on it. (Full disclosure: JD is a friend, and I wrote the liner notes for the album.)
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:21 (five years ago)
vc, that's fair – I do agree that there's an audible progression.
― pomenitul, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:24 (five years ago)
I would also be interested in seeing the WIRE lists.
I helped put on a show for Mourning A BLKStar here in Philly once— it turned into a total nightmare because of a serious miscommunication with the venue, and I ended up having to pay their entire fee out of my own pocket (long story!). BUT!! They were an exceptionally good live band, and interesting, fun people to be around. Glad they're getting love.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:41 (five years ago)
that RS song list has Oxlade’s “Away” at 23 - I approve. I also like that they have Curtis Waters’s “Stunnin’” somewhere too. I love that big dumb track.
― fat ass deep state operative (breastcrawl), Monday, 7 December 2020 17:24 (five years ago)
do we have a thread where Mourning A BLKStar has been discussed? this is srsly great stuff
― where do all these unsold amps go? (gaudio), Monday, 7 December 2020 19:49 (five years ago)
they’ve hidden those lists very well, I went to the site but wasn’t able to find them. do you have a link?
no, it's in the print issue out today...
Wire Magazine - Releases Of The Year 2020
1. Beatrice Dillon - Workaround2. Moor Mother - Circuit City3. Mourning A BLKstar - The Cycle4. Bob Dylan - Rough And Rowdy Ways5. Duma - Duma6. Jeff Parker & The New Breed - Suite for Max Brown7. Still House Plants - Fast Edit8. Jennifer Walshe - A Late Anthology Of Early Music Vol 1: Ancient To Renaissance9. White Boy Scream - Bakunawa10. Carl Stone - Stolen Car
11. Backxwash - God Has Nothing To Do With This Leave Him Out Of It12. Armand Hammer - Shrines13. Sarah Davachi - Cantus, Descant14. Zeroh - BLQLYTE15. Bill Nace - Both16. William Basinski - Lamentations17. Albert Bouchard - Re Imaginos18. Rhodri Davies - Telyn Rawn19. Quelle Chris & Chris Keys - Innocent Country 220. Special Interest - The Passion Of
21. Irreversible Entanglements - Who Sent You?22. Aksak Maboul - Figures23. Liv.e - Couldn't Wait To Tell You24. Ellen Fulman & Theresa Wong - Harbors25. ONO - Red Summer26. The Soft Pink Truth - Shall We Go On Sinning So The Grace May Increase?27. Sun Ra Arkestra - Swirling28. Fiona Apple - Fetch The Bolt Cutters29. Autechre - SIGN30. Gogoj aka Sheng Jie - Oviparity
31. Mary Halvorson's Code Girl - Artlessly Falling32. Jay Electronica - A Written Testimony33. PRAED! Orchestra - Live In Sharjah34. Angel Bat Dawid & Tha Brotherhood - Live35. Tara Clerkin Trio - Tara Clerkin Trio36. Crazy Doberman - Illusory Expansion37. Oliver Coats - skins n slime38. Clipping - Visions Of Bodies Being Burned39. Mary Lattimore - Silver Ladders40. Pink Siifu - NEGRO
41. Sara Serpa - Recognition42. Thundercat - It Is What It Is43. Anna Von Hausswolff - All Thoughts Fly44. Neptunian Maximalism - Eons45. Headie One x Fred again. - GANG46. Neil Charles - Low And Beyond47. Wendy Eisenberg - Auto48. Asher Gamedze - Dialectic Soul49. Tricky - Fall To Pieces50. Sylvia Hallett - Tree Time
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Monday, 7 December 2020 19:57 (five years ago)
apologies in advance for any typos
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Monday, 7 December 2020 19:58 (five years ago)
B. Dillon and B. Dylan together at last
...and in the correct order
― kites aren't fun (NickB), Monday, 7 December 2020 19:59 (five years ago)
Thanks!
― pomenitul, Monday, 7 December 2020 19:59 (five years ago)