Sure I'm far from the first person on this thread to mention that someone not liking something isn't "controversial".
― everything, Monday, 7 December 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link
Blue Oyster Cult are a good band, but they’re so archetypal ‘70s rock band’ that I wouldn’t blame anyone to be turned off.
I don’t really see the ‘hard rock’ element overall (considering how fast things were moving in the early 70s) and tbh I can’t envisage a point where they might have had needed guitars on stage at once - Im reminded of the E Street Band with Bruce, Nils and Van Zandt - I mean, really?
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 7 December 2020 06:45 (three years ago) link
Er, three guitars
They still needed guitars; BOC as the Long Island Kraftwerk was always unlikely
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 7 December 2020 06:57 (three years ago) link
I’d also ban the mention of Richard Meltzer and Patti Smith and any other BOC-adjacent folks from any further BOC discussion; I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much attention given to people who weren’t actually in the band
― Master of Treacle, Monday, 7 December 2020 07:33 (three years ago) link
Yes, Blue Oyster Cult are exceptional in a number of ways, but musical style isn't necessarily one of them. Probably my favorite thing about them is their 70's boogie rock is somehow ethereal where you'd expect it to be earthy and, well... Richard Meltzer and Patti Smith have something to do with that sometimes.
What's the conroversial opinion here? Lyricists/songwriters/svengalis (delete as you will) don't count?
I'm with you on too many guitars but tbf there are way more egregious examples of this than BOC. Like, uhh, Radiohead >:)
― Lamont Dozier Dream House (Deflatormouse), Monday, 7 December 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link
The lyrics in BOC are pretty important, even though they're apparently meaningless a lot of the time, they're just so disconnected and have such a distancing effect
― Lamont Dozier Dream House (Deflatormouse), Monday, 7 December 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link
They're also very witty
― Lamont Dozier Dream House (Deflatormouse), Monday, 7 December 2020 09:59 (three years ago) link
Is it controversial to say that Jefferson Starship is better than Jefferson Airplane? Like quite a bit better? Because I think that's where I'm at currently.
― Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link
Haha I actually think it could be
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link
Have tried to find my way into the Airplane over and again, idgi
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link
Every JS single I've heard during the Ford-Carter years has depressed me, i.e. please shoot them before I shoot mysel.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link
See? JS shot the f.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link
having had that same reaction but then never hearing it ever again (they just kind of vanished?) makes me perversely curious
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link
Highly controversial. Which JS albums are you listening to, OL?
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link
if u really wanna go for the controversial, you should remove that Jefferson from your Starship
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII)
at least you know you can always find your way back to the JS
― Josefa, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link
I don't really believe it but I'm into the energy of the take
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link
Look to the summer of '75The whole world is gonna come alive
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link
Red Octopus is an all-time classic imo and I'd rate it above the individual Airplane records I know.
― They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:48 (three years ago) link
Jane is a really masterpiece of AOR
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link
I'm going purely on singles here. JA singles...yeah, they just don't do much for me. JS has a more pseudo-prog + AM gold vibe that I can firmly get behind. 'Miracles'! 'With Your Love'! 'Count on Me'! 'Jane'! Hell, I'll even throw the Balin solo singles in there. 'FEED YOUR HEAD'? No thanks, Grace. I'll feed my mid-'70s coke habit instead, if you don't mind.
― Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 05:02 (three years ago) link
(I guess, tbf, when I say Balin singles I'm really just talking about 'Hearts' here but I hold firm on my position nonetheless.)
― Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 05:09 (three years ago) link
Fair enough, though JA weren’t really a singles band.
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 05:11 (three years ago) link
Volunteers is really sick, Jorma rules
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link
Gorillaz is more influential and has better songs than Blur.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 06:23 (three years ago) link
l feel like neither one is influential?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 07:10 (three years ago) link
this could have been on Fire Of Unknown Origins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4BxmjFuF_0
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
dipping my toes in here it's the singles that are the roughest go tbh
Oh yeah, I love "St. Charles".
― They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
Jefferson Starship was a needed clean-up and reboot after the chaos and disorder of the Airplane's Bark and Long John Silver. The real test is, what do you think of Hot Tuna?
I've heard all the Blur albums, both by The Good The Bad and The Queen, and even the Albarn solo album, yet never felt a need to check out Gorillaz besides seeing a couple of videos. Something about "we're actually cartoon characters" clicks a big "NOPE" switch in my head.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
I think I like all the big hits from the entire Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship/Starship continuum. I like their singers' voices.
― They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link
I can't remember a single one other than "Somebody to Love" and "We Built This City." They might be the big 60s/70s band that's disappeared from the cultural landscape most completely.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
'White Rabbit'!
― Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link
you don't remember White Rabbit?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
Jane?
for years I remembered "Find Your Way Back" as a great single by Boston
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
who can forget their appearance as a tiny hologram band in the star wars holiday special
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
Most people nowadays probably think of 'Jane' as 'Theme from Wet Hot American Summer'.
― Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
xpost lol, that was actually precisely what prompted this revive, as I finally watched that POS for the first time last night. Their song was pretty good! And I'd been listening to '70s Billboard hits of late and those JS songs were pretty good!
― Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
Never heard JS but, for me, JA are the ultimate Band You've Tried To Get Into But Failed, er, band,
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
feel like White Rabbit from years of movies and documentaries is up there with Turn, Turn, Turn and by the Byrds and Purple Haze by Hendrix as musical shorthand for "The Sixties"I can hear a narrator saying "... and in San Francisco, a new drug fueled hippie scene emerged in the Haight Ashbury neighborhood"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link
me too!
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link
"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" was a #1 single in the US and UK! Don't remember a thing about it.
― why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link
Come on, even I know that one.
― Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
JA are fucking awesome but nobody ever talks about them so I don’t see how not caring about them in controversial?
― brimstead, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
The Outfield invented Emo
― Bill Bruford's drumbeat for "South Side of the Sky": proto-dubstep? (Prefecture), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
A perfect example; when I read this post, my immediate thought wasn't "Oh yeah, that song!" it was "Wait, that was them?" JA/JS were almost totally anonymous, stylistically speaking.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link
to date the only jefferson starship song i've heard is the one in the star wars holiday special
i have also never managed to get into jefferson airplane but i wouldn't call them anonymous. starship sans jefferson were def anonymous, they were designed that way
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link
"nothing's gonna stop us now" is sick as hell; "we built this city" is not a good song but i have a weird affection for its tastelessness at this point in my life
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link