Nu-metal:Search and destroy

"five years...hell, five months time, it's all going to sound horribly, horribly dated."

But alex, the musical style has already _been_ around for five or more years. And certain albums by Tool, Korn, Deftones, and Rage Against The Machine still sound very fresh and original, to my ears at least. But it's true that many of the more recent upstarts like Cold, Saliva, Limp Bizkit, Roach, Mudvayne, and Coal Chamber (whose singer really sounds like Grover -- he should have a duet with Elmo, er, Macy Gray)), are really awful. But I think that the first bands I mentioned, plus Taproot, System Of A Down, some P.O.D and a few others are quite good, thank you. Musically, Slipknot are okay but I just can't stand constantly screaming vocals.

Re: Josh "What is it supposed to be about the Deftones and Sepultura that set them apart? When I hear them on the loud rock shows on my college station (which plays some more out-there stuff than mainstream radio, but safely out-there) I'm not exactly bowled over by originality."

I don't know about Sepultura; but to me Deftones definitely stand apart from the crowd. They have a great sense of smoothly building dynamics, original and interesting music, and Chino Moreno is a true vocalist that breaks away from the rap-influenced percussiveness of his peers. Of course, when he _does_ rap he's humble compared to a good real MC, but far better than, say, Fred Durst. Speaking of which -- _damn_ he's bad. When I heard his contribution to the "What's Going On" allstar track, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. He's _so_ terrible; someone should do him a favor and tell, him, really.

Re: tarden You argument is self-serving, ignorant, and demonstrably false. I offer myself as living proof that it's possible to like Nu Metal and have a diverse musical taste, although I also hate Papa Roach and Linkin Park.

SOAD:Armenian folk-metal, unusual, individual, great tunes, nonsense lyrics, gloriously heavy and insane.

Deftones:Nu-metal, but GOOD nu-metal. Get 'Around the Fur'.

Slipknot:-thats not music, its just a PILE OF SHIT!!!!

Staind:boooooooorrrrriiiiiiinnnnggggggg........

Limp Bizkit:Apart from Fred Durst [whiny arsehole who cant write proper lyrics] they are a very good band, heavy and melodic.

Papa Roach:Ok, but slightly boring.

Crazy Town:The worst lyrics in the history of music and are a also a bunch of posers peddling generic rap-metal tunes.

The only metal bands I like are Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, SOAD, RATM, and Deftones. I am 16 but I do not just like nu-metal, OK!

Oh and btw Muse DO NOT SOUND LIKE RADIOHEAD!!!!!!!!!

As far as every single band mentioned here in this thread, screw them all. Give me any ONE of the following bands over the lot of 'em: Monster Magnet, Kyuss, Nashville Pussy, Motorhead, Judas Priest, Venom, Slayer, Deadly Snakes, Turbonegro, King Brothers, The Reds, Leatherface, Iron Maiden, Celtic Frost, Coroner and Hellacopters. Perhaps this list applies to any newcomers in the future as well. That's the entire list of what I'd ever need as far as hard music.

the two worst bands of this whole nu metal thing are Linkin Park and Crazy town. I would have said limp bizkit but at least the band is good.....but fred durst sucks. I think chester from linkin park is a better singer. none of these bands have meaning or anything and a lot have dumb, pointless lyrics. the whole entire linkin park album was like "i hate you, get away, i hate myself, stop screwing with my head!"

well.......thats all folks.........ill stop writing now......

The rest of it is shite.

DUD!

I'm not gonna add anything but this: I like System of a Down. They have a sense of humor for sure, but they also know how to properly use it so as not to seem a "novelty" band, a category so many other bands with senses of humor are so often dismissed into.

Especially the Deftones comments...barely two years have passed and it's as if they never existed!

This line is quite funny.

I've pretty much succeeded in blotting most of these bands out of my existence by just not paying attention. I saw a video a couple of days ago for a Deftones tune that had a title about some spy in the house of spiders or something like that, which I thought was kind of nifty. I listened to that one with the skinny girl with the bikini back around 98 for about five minutes at work once as that was enough for me.

The two bands that didn't get mentioned here that I had roommates that listened to ton back in the day that at least to my ears had a similar sound was Clutch and Quicksand.

Clutch is still going, but I haven't heard anything past their 2nd record. "Shotgun Named Marcus" sounds like a template for alot of these bands.

I've been searching around trying to find one of the Quicksand albums used, as they used to be in every used bin, but not anymore. Being that I used to really like drugs and booze, the fact that Walter was in Gorilla Biscuits used to kind of keep me a bit at bay, but at least to my memory Quicksand had some interesting music.

Also, I have the Moondog bootleg and it scares the SHIT out of me.

Destroy: Papa Roach's live performance on Carson Daily where their vocalist runs out of breath, can't sing his lines, and falls his fat ass off the stage...okay actually search that and laugh hysterically like I did

Destroy - all the others.

How I wish all these Korn-hoody-wearing self-proclaimed-neo-'goths' would shut up and listen to Godflesh...

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v20/durstrocks/9.jpg

Is it finally dead now?

System of a Down is the only thing left.

I didnt listen to hair metal at the time, so I missed out on the grounding for the current nostalgiafest. It seems to me both hair and nu metal are loud and have lots of riffs: hair is a bit more playful and nu is more intense, but then wasnt the playfulness of hair and the intensity of *grunge* why everyone said hair had to die anyway? Nu is also arguably more musically interesting cos of the hip-hop elements - there are more places it could go.

Both of them trade in exaggerated and absurdified masculine images - hair has queeny glam braggadocio, nu has the tats and piercings look (the masculine body warping and modifying under culture-pressure). This allows both genres to achieve moments of sudden tenderness which are more affecting because you're not expecting them (though maybe by this point you should be).

The critical reaction to nu metal is fascinating - all of the old critical saws which people get jumped on here for applying to pop any more (they dont mean it! its commodified! its old hat! rich people shouldnt be angry! its just for 15 year olds!) have achieved glittering new life in the nu-metal-crit arena.

Search and Destroy? No idea, mate.

-- Tom, Tuesday, 26 June 2001 01:00

What do you think now, Tom?

I just saw a TV ad for the new Korn album. Fucking hell.

At least the Deftones are still making interesting music. I never really considered them nu-metal; though they associated/toured with all those other bands I don't need to mention, they never really fit in with that crowd to me. I could easily imagine them having a record on Hydra Head, for example (which would instantly make the hipsters love 'em to bits).

Hipsters already did like Deftones. Because they were actually good.

Is it finally dead now?

-- Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, August 2, 2007 2:04 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Link

I think nu-metal and post-hardcore have bled into each other to a degree that we have bottom-heavy screamo now, but that's about it.

Search: Papa Roach's "Last resort"---Whiny angst rock with a great medieval sounding stop-start riff

Whcih was totally ripped off the intro of this.

deftones uber alles

I went to a Deftones show once. To see Will Haven.