― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 09:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 09:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 2 September 2004 06:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 07:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 2 September 2004 07:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 3 September 2004 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Meanwhile, things like the The New Record by... and Sunday Sundae Smile EPs are some 378 times better than is widely ackowledged (ie. what Trayce said!), but that debut is pretty messy.
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 3 September 2004 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Sleep like a pillow no one there Where she won't care anywhere Soft as a pillow touch her there Where she won't dare somewhere
Sleep like a novel subject and Think that you grew stronger there Speak your troubles she's not scared Soft like there's silk everywhere
Sleep is a pillow come somewhere Where she won't dare anywhere Look in the mirror she's not there Where she won't care somewhere
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:04 (nineteen years ago) link
?
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:05 (nineteen years ago) link
Tiptoe down to the lonely places Where you going now don't turn around Little girls in their party dresses Didn't like anything there
Pretty boys with their sunshine faces Carrying their heads down Tiptoe down to the lonely places Where you going now don't turn around
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:08 (nineteen years ago) link
Kiss your fear Your red button falls from my mouth Slip your dress over your head It's been so long
Move on top Because that way you touch her too Turn your head come back again To here knows when
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Close my eyes Feel me high I don't know But you could not love me now You'll know And I feel down to the ground Over there And I want to like tomorrow You can hide Oh my love, but where to?
Turn my head Into sound I don't know But I lay down on the ground You will find And halt and hurt to love Never cared And the world turned hearts to love You will see Oh darling, on the way I do
You will wait See me go I don't care When your head turned foreigner You will wait And I turn my eyes around Overhead And I hold you next view Overhead To my eyes, on the way I see
Close my eyes Feel me high I don't know But you could not love me now You'll know And I feel down to Over there And I want to love to view You can hide Oh my love, but where to? You can see or cannot on the way I do
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Kevin Shields wants to know what love is!
― Shady Loch Lenin (haitch), Friday, 3 September 2004 11:42 (nineteen years ago) link
dug out TIYBV and listened to it for probably the third time ever. and possibly the last. but i also dug out E&W and fell in love with it again.
― koogs (koogs), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 3 September 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
That is throwaway nonsense.
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 3 September 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link
in a recent interview, the interviewer referred to it as something like 'their wannabe birthday party' record and kevin shields seemed to agree w/ that. it was the interview on buddyhead.com. i can hear the cramps in it, also. they had a different singer named dave conway back then...have to say that i'm not a big fan of his vocal style.
― 6335, Friday, 3 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, it just seems a bit thin and a bit of a drag in the middle now. It's entirely possible I heard it too many times half a lifetime ago.
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 3 September 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link
As I posted over on the Japancakes thread, this is forthcoming:
JAPANCAKES - Loveless CD (Darla: DRL188: 708527018828) $12.00 EXCLUSIVE. Athens, GA's experimental, instrumental, Americana group, Japancakes cover My Bloody Valentine's classic Loveless record from start to finish with pedal steel and cello in place of vocal and lead melodies -- and without any distortion. MBV’s Loveless (Creation: 1991) remains the defining record of the genre and completely unparalleled by any artist since. This is super fun! Japancakes don't record together like other bands. They do play together but when they record in studio they do so one at a time. Each player writes their own part and adds it to the part(s) recorded previously by fellow band members. The result of this practice is that the personality of each individual player is often better captured. Each player's individual performance is strengthened by the technique. Japancakes is Eric Berg, rhythm guitar, Nick Belli, bass, Brant Rackey, drums, John Neff, pedal steel, Heather McIntosh, cello, Andy Barker, production.
EXCLUSIVE. Athens, GA's experimental, instrumental, Americana group, Japancakes cover My Bloody Valentine's classic Loveless record from start to finish with pedal steel and cello in place of vocal and lead melodies -- and without any distortion. MBV’s Loveless (Creation: 1991) remains the defining record of the genre and completely unparalleled by any artist since. This is super fun! Japancakes don't record together like other bands. They do play together but when they record in studio they do so one at a time. Each player writes their own part and adds it to the part(s) recorded previously by fellow band members. The result of this practice is that the personality of each individual player is often better captured. Each player's individual performance is strengthened by the technique. Japancakes is Eric Berg, rhythm guitar, Nick Belli, bass, Brant Rackey, drums, John Neff, pedal steel, Heather McIntosh, cello, Andy Barker, production.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 August 2007 06:17 (sixteen years ago) link
And turns out there's a brief mp3 clip up for "Only Shallow," so there ya go.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 August 2007 06:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder where skot got those lyrics from? Most MBV lyric attempts I've seen are riddled with gaps and ??? here and there and never quite seem like theyre right (similarly cocteaus lyric fansites).
― Trayce, Thursday, 23 August 2007 07:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Hey that Japancakes stuff is really good! I was sad there is no singing on it though :( But its beautifully done.
― Trayce, Thursday, 23 August 2007 07:02 (sixteen years ago) link
no singing on it?
Right, let's get a copy and let's get some singahs!
― Mark G, Thursday, 23 August 2007 08:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Well "Only Shallow"'s vocal melody is there but played by a cello.
― Trayce, Thursday, 23 August 2007 08:53 (sixteen years ago) link
classic. not dud.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 23 August 2007 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
can't we just combine all the MBV threads into one thread and then make it its own board?
― Jordan Sargent, Thursday, 23 August 2007 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link
oh hay look japancakes are going to do a thing.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 26 October 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link
i bought a big muff and now im going to make my guitar glow
― trashthumb, Friday, 26 October 2007 13:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I heard Loveless after hearing m83 and fennesz, who are often referenced as influenced by and aesthetically similar, but it's not even about the thick noisy sound to me. It has a character I can't place, that's probably what I love about it.
― trashthumb, Friday, 26 October 2007 14:15 (sixteen years ago) link
is there much diff about the second disc of the remastered edition?
― titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 8 June 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Just how important is this album, in terms of wider cultural effect? Does the average man in the street know about this in the way that he might know about Dark Side Of The Moon or OK Computer? How many copies did it sell?
Basically, what I mean is, does anyone other than indie geeks give a shit about the remaster / reformation?
― Scik Mouthy, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Does the average man in the street know about this in the way that he might know about Dark Side Of The Moon or OK Computer?
No.
― banriquit, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't think MBV as a name has that much 'presence' outside indie geeks. Pretty sure that at the 9 gigs there'll be more fans going to more than one gig (and a lot of them will only be travelling because they thought they couldn't get tickets to their nearest gig, as discussed on the 'return of mbv' thread) rather than people who are just curious as to what it'll be like. Maybe after the festival gigs it'll open up to people who hadn't heard of them before, but then again they're playing Bestival.
― Bocken Social Scene, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:01 (fifteen years ago) link
it'd be interesting to know how many copies they sold as against, say, the strokes' debut. the idea of someone buying that today wwould be kinda o_O but MBV have never not been cred.
― banriquit, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:05 (fifteen years ago) link
When I told people at work I was going to see MBV this week they thought I meant Bullet For My Valentine, these are mostly people who listen to corporate indie/nu-metal/emo stuff so you'd think they'd at least be aware of them, but only one guy even knew who they were.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 27 June 2008 09:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Interestingly enough, I listened to The Stokes' debut at the weekend and it was fucking great.
― Scik Mouthy, Friday, 27 June 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link
never liked it
― banriquit, Friday, 27 June 2008 10:28 (fifteen years ago) link
There's a right time/right place element to Loveless; it crowned a genre critics treated cruelly, and which had performed terribly as full-lengths go. If "Soon" weren't rushed out on Glider, and saved for a lead single, Loveless would have crossed-over more. But even then I think you're talking about Pills n' Thrills / The Stone Roses levels of (market) success.
Loveless is one of pop music's Fabergé eggs. Fawned over, fondled, breathtakingly beautiful - even to casual observers - but essentially useless, and therefore easily forgotten by most. It is adored and worshiped by an exclusive, blindly devoted class who would miss a meal to behold it one more time.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Absolutely not.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 27 June 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
i think 'pills and thrills' did ok, sales-wise. the singles were hits.
― banriquit, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I think The Stone Roses might have sold a few copies as well.
― Colonel Poo, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Just saying those are better reference points for what it could have done in a best-case scenario than Dark Side of the Moon (Jesus) or OK Computer.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
it's more like husker du, pixies, all that stuff that got as big as it could get, but could not have got any bigger. there wasn't anything to stop the stone roses or happy mondays (except themselves, their labels, etc) whereas i don't think mbv could ever have been a success.
― banriquit, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
That's it, banri.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Friday, 27 June 2008 14:19 (fifteen years ago) link