Or rather I should say, she doesn't seem to be trying to go for that same vibe
― Indexed, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
The joy of having all these re-recordings drop will be to relive the album releases more so than finding minor improvements in her phrasing or whatever. I will be curious if she decides to dramatically remix any of the tracks. Weren't there multiple versions of "Love Story" created for different radio formats?
― Indexed, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link
Maybe this has already been revealed, but is she gonna press up new physical copies of all this stuff and, like, tell her fans to throw away all the old copies and buy the new ones to stick it to Scooter? That would kind of be amazing.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link
Ugh, yeah, if she's not going to play around with new arrangements or anything on these, I'm not going to be nearly as interested as I might have been.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link
If her purpose is to make her old recordings valueless, it would make sense that she's going for as close to the original as possible. If she plays around with new arrangements, her fans will buy the new recordings, but they won't stop streaming the old ones.
― Lily Dale, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link
I honestly don't see any way she stops fans from streaming the old versions. Those were formative albums for a lot of people and I don't think people everyone would just stop listening to them completely even if her rerecordings are going to be as faithful as possible.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
lot of old rappers have done this
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I don't really see it working, but I think that's what she's going for. The goal isn't just to have recordings of her own work that she owns, it's also to screw over Scooter and anyone connected to him.
― Lily Dale, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
so much of it depends on how spotify and apple bend to her will -- there's all sorts of factors like what shows up in search, in algorithms, on playlists, how her discography is displayed on her profile pages, what is highlighted, what isn't, how things are packaged for the user etc that will be conscious decisions made by people at platforms trying to balance the priorities and desires of two diff but very powerful sides. the passive streamers of her music who just click on the first thing that appears in a search result or on her profile page will be a far larger slice of the population than the stans who go out of their way to only stream certain music bcuz they too are invested in screwing over scooter braun
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 December 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link
Doesn't Spotify reflect recent plays in addition to total plays? That could help her there, because the re-recordings will get a ton of listens when she first releases them.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 3 December 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
Anecdotal data points: My wife and both daughters started the Folklore movie last night but couldn't finish it. My 13-year-old, who has seen Miss Americana more than once, was not interested in the performances and wished there was more documentary. My wife iirc thought it felt too much like watching successful people just hanging out in a beautiful location. she and my older daughter swapped it out for a Harry Styles documentary, which both enjoyed a lot more.
Dunno why it rubbed them all the wrong way, I watched the first 20 minutes or so and it seemed fine to me.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 December 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
Thought about turning it off bc of way Jack leans forward to play acoustic guitar
― Stephen Tobo Lowskywhine (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 5 December 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
I like her songs, but have little to no interest in seeing/watching her perform.
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Saturday, 5 December 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link
I don’t have Disney + but I watched the bits that are on YouTube, the sitting round the campfire excerpts were cringey but some of the performances were cool, especially the bon iver track (and I’ve resigned myself to realizing I seem to be one of the few people who really loves that song)
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Saturday, 5 December 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link
It’s my favorite on the album!
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Saturday, 5 December 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
I loved the show and was glad it was mostly a concert, not a documentary. I've always appreciated her stripped down live performances. Past couple of albums the stripped doww live versions of her songs have improved on the over-produced album versions, but folklore was always meant to sound like this so I was eager, since its release, to hear how it would translate live, and I liked it and it's clear this is how she sounds the best live, but it doesn't quite gel with her stadium tours.
― abcfsk, Saturday, 5 December 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link
Thought the exile performance somehow was captivating and perfect as a 2020 duet.
― Stephen Tobo Lowskywhine (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 6 December 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link
i freakin' love Exile and i have never liked a note of Vernon's music, and yes, the Long Pond duet is excellent
<i>not interested in the performances and wished there was more documentary. My wife iirc thought it felt too much like watching successful people just hanging out in a beautiful location</i>
i would really be much more interested in a documentary than either of these other two options. i might just stick to streaming the performances on Apple Music.
― alpine static, Sunday, 6 December 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link
sorry about the formatting
― alpine static, Sunday, 6 December 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link
Maybe I’ll watch the “Exile” performance after catching up on The Midichlorian tonight.
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link
Ok yeah, the performances are nice - but these scenes of her and Antonoff perched on uncomfortable-looking chairs in coats are really awkward
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link
Never really listened to Taylor Swift before but I liked this special a lot, and I like this album. Really like The National dude’s piano sound.
― brimstead, Sunday, 6 December 2020 05:35 (three years ago) link
I didn’t think it was that awkward but idk
I guess unfair for me to judge, since I really don’t care to hear them talk about the songs.
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link
Obviously will never stop streaming the old ones. Def Leppard tried this, but finally kind of surrendered to letting people stream the old ones instead, even if the new recordings were very close to the originals (but no cigar).
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:56 (three years ago) link
Oh, and I love "Folklore". I have found earlier Swift releases quite nice in a way, but this is brilliant.
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
*blinks*
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/74e5a132a35ede8e1c2b8d3af3313518e2b84e70/0_0_1800_1080/master/1800.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=f963c8e27a3deb0419f299702db89ffc
― Tim F, Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link
The worlds realign
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 December 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link
lmao new album tonight - Evermore
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
wow
― All cars are bad (Euler), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
omfg
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
oh damn!!!!
i'm glad december surprise albums are back
tracklist:willowchampagne problemsgold rush'tis the damn seasontolerate itno body, no crime (feat. Haim)happinessdorotheaconey island (feat. The National)ivycowboy like melong story shortmarjorieclosure (feat. Bon Iver)
bonus tracks:right where you left meit's time to go
― ufo, Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link
tis the damn season!!!!!!!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link
I wanna think Taylor is a combination of Lohan yelling ‘I’m bored I’m so bored’ and Lisa Simpson with her perpetual motion machine
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
excited for the piano magic cover
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
taylor in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link
side note but has anyone ever done an album where the first song is called "tracklist:"? that would be a good bit
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
surely that's the next phoebe bridgers album
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link
The problem with champagne = too sweet, gives you mad hangovers
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link
That’s why you drink a dry champagne
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link
or prosecco
or nothing
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
Poor tactical choice from Taylor adding a vote splitter to the ILX awards.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link
ILX Pre-Cover before sundown!
Also, what better way to leave your old masters behind (in both senses of the word).
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
holy shit!
more dessner / antonoff stuff, do we think?
― alpine static, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
For Alfred:
And the track list... Champagne problems?!!!! Yes!!! I have those.— Adam Rippon (@AdamRippon) December 10, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link
She's calling it a sister record to Folklore and looks like it's the same collaborators xp
― groovypanda, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
xp yes
"And I loved creating these songs with Aaron Dessner, Jack Antonoff, WB, and Justin Vernon. We’ve also welcomed some new (and longtime) friends to our musical kitchen table this time around..."
last part probably refers to the new featurings, Haim and the National proper
― abcfsk, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link
IF she wrote "Campari Conundrum," I'd sympathize.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
Negroni Negging
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link