poshidiots in music
― calzino, Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link
does dave grohl still deny aids btw
The Foo Fighters played a benefit organised by AIDS-denier bassist Nate Mendel in early 2000, and put up a wake up sheeple page on their website, which they deleted in 2002. The "won't get tested, or get her kids tested" HIV+ mom who was Mendel's connection to the movement died in 2008, of AIDS. Dave Grohl has since supported Elton John's AIDS Foundation.
Taylor Hawkins played a Vaccines Cause Autism benefit in 2013, though.
― huge rant (sic), Saturday, 28 November 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link
I didn't know Mendel was the source of that connection. super weird bummer
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/apr/21/i-felt-deeply-apologetic-how-one-mans-bucket-list-trip-put-a-community-at-risk-of-covid-19I missed this, Supergrass put on a reunion show in August??? Is Gaz a Covidiot????
― brimstead, Sunday, 29 November 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link
No it was back in March before lockdown.
This was a quick trip – leaving Melbourne on Thursday 5 March, concert on 7 March, a visit to the Tate gallery on Sunday, back home Tuesday night.
― pedantly admonishment (aldo), Sunday, 29 November 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
completely o_0 at that Foo Fighters AIDS page
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Sunday, 29 November 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
In related news, this is the one that shook me up, been into her records from the early 80s on--musical persona is (so far!) quite different than this--from Rolling Jazz:
Presumably she's been this way for a while, but singer Cassandra Wilson unfurled her MAGA flag on Twitter yesterday in a big way. So much so that I saw someone refer to her as "Qassandra Wilson" and laughed before I did the search and saw that...yep, she's got the brain worms all right.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:16 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
what I don't get about that kind of thing, is why, after these four years, would you reveal that NOW?
― rob, Sunday, November 22, 2020 9:43 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
As with Sidney Powell, now is when the legit crazies are coming out of the woodwork.
― pomenitul, Sunday, November 22, 2020 9:46 AM
― dow, Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link
I just had a quick listen to the new Captain Sensible project, Sensible Gray Cells - "Get Back Into The World", and I couldn't quite tell if he's a covidiot or just mistrusting of the government in general.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link
Looking up an interview it seems to be the former: "but let’s have the old normal back please. Not this dystopian nonsense they’re trying to get us used to."
― pedantly admonishment (aldo), Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
Yeah, see I saw that but it still could be the "don't trust the government" as opposed to "let's pretend there's no danger".
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 30 November 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link
The album cover kinda seems like a visual joke that makes the title ironic, though scrolling through his twitter I'm not too certain of that.
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Monday, 30 November 2020 04:44 (three years ago) link
Maybe I'm just biased against Sensible. Watching "Don't You Wish That We Were Dead" I thought his bemusement was telling when having to confront that basically everyone who's ever met him thinks he's a dick.
― pedantly admonishment (aldo), Monday, 30 November 2020 09:02 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/rita-ora-throws-birthday-party-london-restaurant-covid-lockdown
― in the blue blue house at the centre of the garden (Matt #2), Monday, 30 November 2020 11:35 (three years ago) link
Rita Rita Rita. Saturday was Albanian Independence Day too!
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Monday, 30 November 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/enemies-of-the-sheeple-why-do-pop-stars-fall-for-conspiracy-theories
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 30 November 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
30+ people at Rita's Party, £10k fine per head for breaking lockdown - you do the math! That's £3m or more for Serco's shareholders, after they get awarded the vaccine rollout and hire some teenagers to jab some needles around in an Asda car park somewhere.
― in the blue blue house at the centre of the garden (Matt #2), Monday, 30 November 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link
Er, hate to be the math pedant here, but that's £300,000 fine, not £3m. Still.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 November 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
wish I had £10k so I could say "fuck the rules" and it not be a significant issue to me.
I mean, I wouldn't because I'm not an utter arsehole, but it's good to see the different-rules-for-rich-people play out again
― boxedjoy, Monday, 30 November 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
Seriously, like a lot of other fines and fiscal punishments, it needs to be on a sliding scale. I'm sure the rich would find ways around that too though.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 November 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link
I did say you do the math, not me.
― in the blue blue house at the centre of the garden (Matt #2), Monday, 30 November 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
Maths.
― stirmonster, Monday, 30 November 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
sometime-user DL's guardian piece linked above is a hurried half-baked nothing, really -- a dozen ilxors could have written a better i think
Some musicians are "autodidacts, attracted to the juicy secret knowledge that you won’t get from the mainstream media, while lacking the analytical tools necessary to sort the wheat from the chaff."
he may not exactly mean this implication (a good sub shd have challenged him on it!) but the "mainstream media" also largely lacks "the analytical tools necessary to sort the wheat from the chaff", or at any rate too often doesn't bother to use it. musicians as a counter-media thrive bcz the institution they're countering -- wich they have dozens of valid reasons to despise -- does its job fitfully at best, and this is a far more pertinent reason for the rise of the problem than e.g. weed or stubbornness ffs lol
― mark s, Monday, 30 November 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
I think the mainstream media has been good about delivering & reinforcing accurate COVID information, though.
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
ok then
― mark s, Monday, 30 November 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
Surely the important question is how Rita Ora has got any money
― Carry On Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
Also I note briefly in passing that sensible DL managed a dig at the hated left
― Carry On Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
tbf, if he'd just written "a lot of musicians are thick as shit" I don't think he would have made the minimum wordcount
― DJP, Monday, 30 November 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
it would still have required "as are a lot of journalists" tagged on
― Carry On Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
feel like Immortal Technique might have some interesting "opinions" on COVID.
but i haven't looked yet
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
I mean, I'd definitely be up for an "everyone is a fukken idiot, why do you think musicians would be exceptions" rant
― DJP, Monday, 30 November 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link
Yeah - does the % of musicians noted ITT exceed the % of covidiots in society at large?
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
think the mainstream media has been good about delivering & reinforcing accurate COVID information, though.Are there any parts of the mainstream UK media that you think have done a lesser job than others?
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link
?
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
Rita Ora apologizes:It was a spur of the moment decision made with the misguided view that we were coming out of lockdown and this would be OK.https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/rita-ora-throws-birthday-party-london-restaurant-covid-lockdown
― dow, Monday, 30 November 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
It was a spur of the moment meal booked in a restaurant for 30 people several days before lockdown ended, but I thought I'd get away with it more likely
― in the blue blue house at the centre of the garden (Matt #2), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, November 30, 2020 11:30 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
feels like a lock...been wondering about Lord Jamar and KRS-One as well
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
ha of course this guy
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/08/tech-n9ne-coronavirus-concert-ozarks/
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
Tech bums me out, always seemed like he had a head on his shoulders but I didn't pay close enough attention.
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
mark and Dorian both see, for different implied reasons, failures of the UK's mainstream media as being a factor in lesserly-intellectual* citizens like Ian Brown and the Fairbrass Brothers reaching unscientific and conspiracy-minded conclusions about COVID. You disagree, because the mainstream media has been good about delivering these messages. I wonder if you're certain it's consistent at that level, or if there might be a weak point or two here and there, where these musicians might be getting their info.
*broad though their other talents might be
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
Sammy Hagar― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:43 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:43 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink
Today's David Lee Roth cartoon, seemingly in response to Hagar's non-socially-distanced Thanksgiving dinner? I'm not entirely sure - Roth's sense of humor is pretty weird.
#SoggyBottom #DLR #DavidLeeRoth #DiamondDave pic.twitter.com/zZ4Q2ZRHgh— David Lee Roth (@DavidLeeRoth) November 30, 2020
― peace, man, Monday, 30 November 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
xp Of course I'm happy to consider contrary viewpoints/facts, though I can't respond to arguments that are merely "implied."
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link
Hannan's "you're really not going to die from the Coronavirus" and "it's time to start loosening the lockdown" takes (the latter first fired off on April 12!) are published in The Telegraph
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
And are musicians known to follow this guy's editorials?
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
Here's the current non-editorial coverage: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/uk-coronavirus-lockdown/
Do you think "stay home folks, 12,330 new cases were recorded yesterday and we have the highest death rates in Europe, here's a scientist" messaging would be unduly alarmist, and that "go to Cornwall to drink" and "masks are dangerous" and "eating one (1) scotch egg in public protects you from the virus" and "Matt Hancock says everything's okay now, and he's a person one should absolutely trust" news stories are responsible messaging?
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
Hannan's "you're really not going to die from the Coronavirus" and "it's time to start loosening the lockdown"
You scared the shit out of me, I thought I was about to learn that Neil Hannon from Divine Comedy was an anti-masker
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
xp I clicked on the Scotch egg article, and it doesn't seem to say what you say it says, but I'm not a subscriber so can't read further.
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
(Also apologies if I'm not parsing your coyly interrogative rhetorical moves correctly.)
― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
imo reasonable public health messaging would frame things as "Rishi's plans to have you eat and drink and socialise indoors are all bad and will spread the virus, as demonstrated by a) science b) this diagram of droplets, c) them doing so previously. NB Tim Martin is a sociopath and Sunak literally does not know what a pub looks like inside or out," not as "here's a quirky li'l feature of the new guidelines! (no content about virus exists in article at all)"
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 30 November 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link
that david lee roth cartoon is a lot
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 November 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link
Lee Scratch Perry
― (the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:13 (three years ago) link