Covidiots in music

3 year silence on Twitter, 20 year silence on the charts.

poshidiots in music

does dave grohl still deny aids btw

The Foo Fighters played a benefit organised by AIDS-denier bassist Nate Mendel in early 2000, and put up a wake up sheeple page on their website, which they deleted in 2002. The "won't get tested, or get her kids tested" HIV+ mom who was Mendel's connection to the movement died in 2008, of AIDS. Dave Grohl has since supported Elton John's AIDS Foundation.

Taylor Hawkins played a Vaccines Cause Autism benefit in 2013, though.

I didn't know Mendel was the source of that connection. super weird bummer

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/apr/21/i-felt-deeply-apologetic-how-one-mans-bucket-list-trip-put-a-community-at-risk-of-covid-19

I missed this, Supergrass put on a reunion show in August??? Is Gaz a Covidiot????

No it was back in March before lockdown.

This was a quick trip – leaving Melbourne on Thursday 5 March, concert on 7 March, a visit to the Tate gallery on Sunday, back home Tuesday night.

completely o_0 at that Foo Fighters AIDS page

In related news, this is the one that shook me up, been into her records from the early 80s on--musical persona is (so far!) quite different than this--from Rolling Jazz:

Presumably she's been this way for a while, but singer Cassandra Wilson unfurled her MAGA flag on Twitter yesterday in a big way. So much so that I saw someone refer to her as "Qassandra Wilson" and laughed before I did the search and saw that...yep, she's got the brain worms all right.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:16 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

what I don't get about that kind of thing, is why, after these four years, would you reveal that NOW?

― rob, Sunday, November 22, 2020 9:43 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

As with Sidney Powell, now is when the legit crazies are coming out of the woodwork.

― pomenitul, Sunday, November 22, 2020 9:46 AM

I just had a quick listen to the new Captain Sensible project, Sensible Gray Cells - "Get Back Into The World", and I couldn't quite tell if he's a covidiot or just mistrusting of the government in general.

Looking up an interview it seems to be the former: "but let’s have the old normal back please. Not this dystopian nonsense they’re trying to get us used to."

Yeah, see I saw that but it still could be the "don't trust the government" as opposed to "let's pretend there's no danger".

The album cover kinda seems like a visual joke that makes the title ironic, though scrolling through his twitter I'm not too certain of that.

Maybe I'm just biased against Sensible. Watching "Don't You Wish That We Were Dead" I thought his bemusement was telling when having to confront that basically everyone who's ever met him thinks he's a dick.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/rita-ora-throws-birthday-party-london-restaurant-covid-lockdown

Rita Rita Rita. Saturday was Albanian Independence Day too!

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/enemies-of-the-sheeple-why-do-pop-stars-fall-for-conspiracy-theories

30+ people at Rita's Party, £10k fine per head for breaking lockdown - you do the math! That's £3m or more for Serco's shareholders, after they get awarded the vaccine rollout and hire some teenagers to jab some needles around in an Asda car park somewhere.

Er, hate to be the math pedant here, but that's £300,000 fine, not £3m. Still.

wish I had £10k so I could say "fuck the rules" and it not be a significant issue to me.

I mean, I wouldn't because I'm not an utter arsehole, but it's good to see the different-rules-for-rich-people play out again

Seriously, like a lot of other fines and fiscal punishments, it needs to be on a sliding scale. I'm sure the rich would find ways around that too though.

I did say you do the math, not me.

Maths.

sometime-user DL's guardian piece linked above is a hurried half-baked nothing, really -- a dozen ilxors could have written a better i think

Some musicians are "autodidacts, attracted to the juicy secret knowledge that you won’t get from the mainstream media, while lacking the analytical tools necessary to sort the wheat from the chaff."

he may not exactly mean this implication (a good sub shd have challenged him on it!) but the "mainstream media" also largely lacks "the analytical tools necessary to sort the wheat from the chaff", or at any rate too often doesn't bother to use it. musicians as a counter-media thrive bcz the institution they're countering -- wich they have dozens of valid reasons to despise -- does its job fitfully at best, and this is a far more pertinent reason for the rise of the problem than e.g. weed or stubbornness ffs lol

I think the mainstream media has been good about delivering & reinforcing accurate COVID information, though.

ok then

Surely the important question is how Rita Ora has got any money

Also I note briefly in passing that sensible DL managed a dig at the hated left

tbf, if he'd just written "a lot of musicians are thick as shit" I don't think he would have made the minimum wordcount

it would still have required "as are a lot of journalists" tagged on

feel like Immortal Technique might have some interesting "opinions" on COVID.

but i haven't looked yet

I mean, I'd definitely be up for an "everyone is a fukken idiot, why do you think musicians would be exceptions" rant

Yeah - does the % of musicians noted ITT exceed the % of covidiots in society at large?

think the mainstream media has been good about delivering & reinforcing accurate COVID information, though.

Are there any parts of the mainstream UK media that you think have done a lesser job than others?

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Rita Ora apologizes:
It was a spur of the moment decision made with the misguided view that we were coming out of lockdown and this would be OK.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/rita-ora-throws-birthday-party-london-restaurant-covid-lockdown

It was a spur of the moment meal booked in a restaurant for 30 people several days before lockdown ended, but I thought I'd get away with it more likely

feel like Immortal Technique might have some interesting "opinions" on COVID.

but i haven't looked yet

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, November 30, 2020 11:30 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

feels like a lock...been wondering about Lord Jamar and KRS-One as well

ha of course this guy

https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/08/tech-n9ne-coronavirus-concert-ozarks/

Tech bums me out, always seemed like he had a head on his shoulders but I didn't pay close enough attention.

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mark and Dorian both see, for different implied reasons, failures of the UK's mainstream media as being a factor in lesserly-intellectual* citizens like Ian Brown and the Fairbrass Brothers reaching unscientific and conspiracy-minded conclusions about COVID. You disagree, because the mainstream media has been good about delivering these messages. I wonder if you're certain it's consistent at that level, or if there might be a weak point or two here and there, where these musicians might be getting their info.

*broad though their other talents might be

Sammy Hagar

― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:43 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Today's David Lee Roth cartoon, seemingly in response to Hagar's non-socially-distanced Thanksgiving dinner? I'm not entirely sure - Roth's sense of humor is pretty weird.

#SoggyBottom #DLR #DavidLeeRoth #DiamondDave pic.twitter.com/zZ4Q2ZRHgh

— David Lee Roth (@DavidLeeRoth) November 30, 2020

xp Of course I'm happy to consider contrary viewpoints/facts, though I can't respond to arguments that are merely "implied."

Hannan's "you're really not going to die from the Coronavirus" and "it's time to start loosening the lockdown" takes (the latter first fired off on April 12!) are published in The Telegraph

And are musicians known to follow this guy's editorials?

Here's the current non-editorial coverage: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/uk-coronavirus-lockdown/

Do you think "stay home folks, 12,330 new cases were recorded yesterday and we have the highest death rates in Europe, here's a scientist" messaging would be unduly alarmist, and that "go to Cornwall to drink" and "masks are dangerous" and "eating one (1) scotch egg in public protects you from the virus" and "Matt Hancock says everything's okay now, and he's a person one should absolutely trust" news stories are responsible messaging?

Hannan's "you're really not going to die from the Coronavirus" and "it's time to start loosening the lockdown"

You scared the shit out of me, I thought I was about to learn that Neil Hannon from Divine Comedy was an anti-masker

xp I clicked on the Scotch egg article, and it doesn't seem to say what you say it says, but I'm not a subscriber so can't read further.

(Also apologies if I'm not parsing your coyly interrogative rhetorical moves correctly.)

imo reasonable public health messaging would frame things as "Rishi's plans to have you eat and drink and socialise indoors are all bad and will spread the virus, as demonstrated by a) science b) this diagram of droplets, c) them doing so previously. NB Tim Martin is a sociopath and Sunak literally does not know what a pub looks like inside or out," not as "here's a quirky li'l feature of the new guidelines! (no content about virus exists in article at all)"

that david lee roth cartoon is a lot