Steely Dan: "Steely Dan's name has been popping up as a hip musical crush. Remember, this glossy bop-pop was the indifferent aristocracy to punk rock's stone-throwing in the late 70's. People fought

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everything must go is a chill record with solid songs, curiously worse than every fagen solo record barring morph, but i still like it a lot

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link

Both Becker solo albums are better than any of the Fagen albums, although possibly none of Becker's songs are as good as New Frontier, and none of Fagen's are as bad as Cringemaker. Becker's voice was criticized by some, but I can't imagine anyone singing these songs with more nuance and depth.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 26 November 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link

yeah, no. Everything Must Go >>>>>>>>>>>> Two Against Nature.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 November 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link

"Jack of Speed" was the only latter-day SD song I even considered.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 01:43 (three years ago) link

xp alfred i remember reading some very interesting things you wrote about the album on here or on your blog, way back when.

― fleet doxes (map)

aw, thanks! Maybe here?.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 November 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

(only Kamakiriad sucks)

Both Becker solo albums are better than any of the Fagen albums

so, so very wrong

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 26 November 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

yeah i love the becker solo records and i can't get down with that

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link

I've never made it through any solo Becker.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0u_JlK8JhI

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

Lmfao

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

Two reasons why:

- Becker's lyrics showed a level of personal insight and philosophical speculation that they'd never managed before, while Fagen's turned into cute little magazine short stories;

- Becker's vocals distinguish his albums from Steely Dan, while the Fagen records are mostly warmed-over, low-energy retreads of them.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link

Not sure the philosophical speculation is as deep as a cute magazine story.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

i've been jamming that Jarrett track so hard, it's def gonna be in my Spotify year end track list thing

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

also realizing i would seriously consider a nice box set of just Dan instrumental tracks, if it didn't take up a stupid amount of shelf space. listening to the Gaucho instrumental demo on Youtube right now to compare with the Jarrett and it does sound great.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

I like all the fagen solo records but strangely the reunion SD albums do nothing for me. haven’t heard the Becker albums. 2c.

brimstead, Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

There was a leak a few years ago of some extended instrumental takes of I want to say Katy Lied tracks. I'll google real quick.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

OK, they were Royal Scam takes. Here's one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3rDQUCHnMI

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp0TMxKGBlc

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

And so on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esz83G3jEUo

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

that one china crisis album is probably my favourite endeavor of Becker post-gaucho.

nightfly is a great album

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link

there are two incredible moments in “green earrings” that pop into my head constantly: that purdie drum fill that leads into the first solo and that little climbing guitar lock that fills space between the keyboard stabs.

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 November 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

also the unexpected guitar pyrotechnics that open up the closing guitar solo

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 November 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

That Peg video is amazing. Even McDonald is like 'Man those guys are nuts, I sure learned a lot tho'

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link

this is really fun, very not licensed beat tape made entirely of Steely Dan samples

he even samples Fagan rapping Uptown Baby from the Aja Classic Albums

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:13 (three years ago) link

Thanks!

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

my husband is in a music production class atm and has to sample something for his next assignment, and I think I've convinced him to sample the isolated McDonald vocal from Peg because I haven't stopped listening to SD, New Pornographers, or Destroyer for the past week or so.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link

that's not bad things to get stuck on

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 November 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

Thanks, JiC!

Doctor Casino, Friday, 27 November 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link

finally watched the aja classic albums documentary on youtube. lold at "pheromones for tots" re the "celeste" part in "deacon blues". forgot how incredible "home at last" is. purdie is on another level.

fleet doxes (map), Friday, 27 November 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

I would sit and watch one for every record tbh. My own holiday marathon

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 27 November 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

haha i looked for a gaucho one. perfect thing to do at work when no one else is here.

fleet doxes (map), Friday, 27 November 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

apparently a bunch of em are streaming free on Amazon Prime right now - started Goodbye Yellow Brick Road this AM. dunno if anything will be as perfect as Aja just cause the band themselves are such studio nerds that the format ends up making it a really complete testament to who they are as people and musicians.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

the one on the band was a good one, filmed during danko’s lifetime

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

The Aja episode is good because the jams with the musicians is really tight. They got scenes with them playing together, most of those documentaries you might get an isolation section on a musician going over a certain part on the recording.

Coincidentally I gave 'Can't Buy a Thrill' and 'Pretzel Logic' a listen earlier today.

I got wondering if the later Dan ever re-visited 'Dirty Work' and/or 'Midnight Cruiser'. Probably not, but I like those two tracks.

earlnash, Saturday, 28 November 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link

classic albums are the best, love that show

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 November 2020 01:20 (three years ago) link

Yes...'from the Jurassic period of Steely Dan.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTIRk0rn1Jo

Harmonized part of the solo was really cool.

earlnash, Saturday, 28 November 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

Misses the big electric ascending lick that is on the recording. That's one of the best hooks in the original.

earlnash, Saturday, 28 November 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

those guys are such good hosts in their own weird way it really would have been cool to see them go through their entire discography like this

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 28 November 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

(classic albums)

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 28 November 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link

Agreed.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 28 November 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link

Mike Judge's show fits a niche on 'how crazy were they? pretty damn crazy.' Those are great for interviews with sidemen too.

earlnash, Saturday, 28 November 2020 03:35 (three years ago) link

Got really into Aja after I bought it in San Francisco, thinking I might never be in America again. The Classic Albums documentary got me into them. No desire to hear anything else, so I'll go to that thread now.

Alternative Ulsterbus, Saturday, 28 November 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link

just watched the Aja doc, 90s Fagen looks like the bad guy from the "Love Is A Battlefield" video

lukas, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 05:10 (three years ago) link

We are young
Heartache to heartache we stand
Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night
Both of us knowing
Don't take me alive

velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link

Come on with it,
You don't fight fair
That's okay, see if I care
Knock me twice, rap with your cane
It feels so nice, and you're out of the rain

pplains, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

I've been (re)trying to connect with "Gaucho" (the song) after it topped unperson's list last week, but it still sounds like the 1984 Saturday Night Live in-house band playing over the end credits, when the host and cast come out to bid everyone goodnight. That corny sax riff is the point in the dan discography when the old indie hipster me reasserts himself and says "Enough!"

enochroot, Thursday, 3 December 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link

Here's my list of the Four or Five Actually Bad Steely Dan Songs 1972-1980:

1. Gaucho - see above
2. Everything You Did - stultifying mid-tempo blandness
3. Monkey In Your Soul - chord changes thrown in at random, irritating baritone sax hook
4. My Rival - dumb "humour", hammy vocal, irritating organ solo
5. Through With Buzz - borderline, may be too weird and short to be bad

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 3 December 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link

i could get talked into a couple of those being bad, but then i'd have to live with these bad songs popping up in my head all the time. i'm closest to you on "everything you did," furthest on the magnificent "gaucho." kinda wanna see what my version of this list would be.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 3 December 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link

I think if I were to make such a list almost all the songs would be from Pretzel Logic.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 December 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link


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