steve hoffman forums, C or D?

lol

I got a message on there thsi morning saying they'd been hacked, claimed to come from Steve Hoffman himself. NOt sure how true that is, also seemed to be an individual message to me so is that a BCC type thing.

Got told i might need a 2fa which i know nothing about

Tried to chjeckj back on there about 20 minutes ago and I can't get near the site apparently.

According to that slam forum, every user got that message from Steve himself.

what are the odds that SH posted something horrible and then decided to blow up the board

Fuck I wanted to figure out what the hot-stamper for Breakfast in America was!

sounds like the whole joint got hot-stamped

You think the hackers used MyDoom or Slowloris in the attack, or do you think they went the classic route with Stacheldraht?

Those first two will definitely keep your victims guessing for a few hours but the pitch on Stacheldraht leaves you with no doubt that you've been fucked.

Six of one, half a dozen perhaps....

According to the big guy's twitter, it was one of the mods that got their account hacked.

As much as there was a lot to make fun of there, and what an alternately lame and borderline toxic place it was in general, I did use the search function a ton to try to suss out eg whether it was advisable to pick up certain represses & such. If it’s permanently gone, I’ll miss it.

yeah it was actually a pretty good resource sometimes

Yeah, as easy and fun as it was to dunk on that place and some of the people that populate it, it was often a good place to get some good information. For better or worse, there were a lot of connected people that shared some good info about releases. Andy Z@x, for example, would stop by to give updates on that Woodstock box.

Absolutely. It amazes how many people, mostly engineers, have left that forum, either because of Hoffman or because of the socially-dysfunctional assholes who would lash out at them. Mastering engineers who have worked on countless releases, but also people like Ken Scott (The Beatles, David Bowie, Devo) and the late Orrin Keepnews (every jazz listener should know him). And yet, look at how many reissue producers still participate on that forum. The producers behind the new Richard & Linda Thompson, Tom Petty and Replacements box sets (all different producers) were actively participating in threads, answering questions and taking feedback.

*amazes me

looks like it's working now?

I.. uh.. no, no idea.

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/is-rock-music-dead.937372/page-22#post-25206133

(comment is gone btw, I actually reported it with a not very nice comment to their board admins about how they delete the most benign crap but leave up some sexist weird bullshit like this; it was gone within ten seconds)

i'm trying to figure out if the recent Brian Eno vinyl remasters are worth it and 40 pages later I still have no goddamn idea

Without having heard them, I'd say probably not (especially ambient albums with four tracks at 45 RPM on 2 records with a decent chance of pressing defects that were very well DSD mastered for CD in 2004/5)

Say what you will about the Hoffman Forums, but The Grateful Thread is the best place on the internet to discuss the Dead if you're into that kind of thing. Just a bunch of chill, good-natured Deadheads of all ages nerding out about their favorite shows and jams. 5,385 pages and counting lol

ha funny enough I’m listening to the new vinyl remaster of discreet music and it’s sounding good to me! Not that there’s an insane amount of detail there lol

it’s cool cuz you can play it at 45 and double the album length.. I have reflection on 45 double vinyl too it’s all good

Oh yeah, I settled on avoiding the 2x45 releases. I’m not thrilled about the idea of getting up every ten minutes to flip a record in the middle of an original LP side. Going to check for pressing errors but it seems like the single 33 versions are ok, and I only ever picked up the first four albums on CD.

it can be hard trying to get a consensus on the SH forums. also, the fussiness over pressings, like on discogs, makes it bloody hard to gauge sometimes.

I have 3 of the 4 vocal albums. Tiger Mountain sounds great, Before & After Science is crisp but I think its mastered a little hot. though its better than my original copy.

Tiger Mountain is the one that caused the most fuss over there, with some v angry debate over whether minor audio dropouts on the 2x45 were from individual bad pressings or tape degradation on the original master

because if there's one thing to be fired up about, it's that am i right.

oh wait. I have the Astralwerks single LP versions. I forgot they made 2x45 versions

I like it when guys on sh forums post pics of the 9 diff pressings they have of the same album.

sometimes i want to register just to reply "weird flex, but okay" on those kinds of posts.

Even better is when those dudes (they are always dudes) tell someone else they can't possibly comment on an album because they haven't heard every possible pressing.

see now, a man knowing when to shut up is actually a very refreshing thing.

tbh I find that level of fussiness useful sometimes - idk if I could stand to have actual discussions on those boards (outside of a few decent artist-specific threads) but when they talk about a certain cartridge or cleaning product that they like, you damn well know it's a good one

sometimes i want to register just to reply "weird flex, but okay"

lol, very relatable post.

yeah it's super frustrating when those guys say they have 16 versions of every gentle giant album, but then there's one who says "i have 16 pressings of every gentle giant album, and here are the best ones." that's useful. i remember reading an r. metzer review of ornette coleman's "of human feelings," which went something like "i own 36 ornette coleman albums and this one sucks!"

As a fan of message board drama and especially record punisher punishment, I BEG those of you that follow the Hoffman Forums to please alert this thread whenever there is a fuss of note over there! If there's a fight about Steven Wilson Relayer vs the OG pressing on page 698 of the YES thread, I want to know about it!

tbh I find that level of fussiness useful sometimes

That's for sure. It's basically the only resource I have. Like if I'm digging into the back catalog of someone who's been reissued many, many times, the first question I have is, which ones should I buy? (i.e. I only want to buy this shit ONCE.) There is no sane person in my life who could answer that question, much less be remotely interested in finding out the answer - I'm certain the only response that would come to mind is "Why don't you look it up on Amazon? Don't they have that?"

kurt schwitterz otm, we need more drama reports itt, thank you to all posters for your previous efforts in this regard

second.

The hands-down best thing I ever saw on the Hoffman forums was a post that went into great detail about the mics and positioning thereof, tape machine, desk, and engineers for Live At Leeds (and Live At Hull)). For decades I assumed Glyn Johns was the engineer, since it’s the best Keith Moon’s kit had ever been miked. It wasn’t Johns, and I can’t remember the engineer’s name, but he used a total of four mics for the drums: one on each bass drum, and two overheads. That’s it. And while those forums aren’t exactly brimming with posts like that, it’s worth scanning through the endless “my Dave’s Picks hasn’t shipped yet!” posts to get to them.

In fairness a lot of guys over there do know their stuff.

Its just when I was looking for tips on which pressing of sticky fingers to buy I got lost in all the comparisons, and then my brain went numb as a discussion went from comparing 2015 vinyl to 2020 vinyl ams then comparisons of the same edition when it was part of a box set, and then some forensic tracing of which masters were being used when and where. In the end I decided not to bother and that I would just keep my old knackered copy.

Being generous the OP could do with a tl;dr (unless you actually read the title) but this thread about Goldie's Timeless with various non sequitur posts about acknowledged d&b dons Tom Petty, Donald Fagen and of course The Beatles made me laugh.

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/timeless-aged-well-its-a-classic-album.966096/

also lolled

I thought maybe the Bruce Hornsby guy was in on the joke, but then I remembered what forum I was reading.

They’re into posting the cover art every time they mention an album, huh

I don't approve digging into the records that are broader and more complicated than life itself

dying

"I approve digging into the records that are broader and more complicated than life itself...some of the most unlistenable stuff ive ever heard, definitely needs its own thread"

new ILM description?

Did Stereocentral vanish for good?

This?

https://stereocentral.freeforums.net/

Oh! Thank you. It had shit down for maintenance, I had thought. Maybe the web address changed as well. I’m very grateful