MASS ROMANTIC

“front to back dopamine rush” otm, few albums by any artists are aimed as directly at the pleasure center of the brain

Yeah I just listened to it twice in a row, after skipping around the past few days. It's an incredible record, almost wish I could change my vote to 'Fake Headlines.'

Are there any tracks we think won't get any votes, or which will get the fewest? Breakin' the Law?

bottom three will be Breakin' the Law (zero votes), Execution Day (zero) and Mystery Hours (one)

Good calls.

voted for body cause IIII NEEDED HER TO

it’s amazing how all these songs exist in my head as a jumble of nonsense syllables. plenty of evocative imagery but as far as i glean any meaning from them, it might as well be in farsi

Me too -- this for me has never been a band where I think hard about the lyrics or even generally know what they are, it's about the syllables and the sounds. I would be mildly disappointed if I ever found out any of the songs were about anything.

torn between ensuring “mass romantic” charts and not splitting the “slow descent” vote. let’s try this on and see how it fits

THIS BOY’S LIFE
AMONG THE ELECTRICALLLL LIGHTS
THIS BOY’S LIFE
AMONG THE ELECTRICALLLL LIGHTS

hmm yeah may be “slow descent”

Regarding the lyrics, it might be helpful to note that an experimental school of poetry was very influential in Vancouver at the time, and oftentimes the lyrics have some resonances with that more literary movement.

yeah the lyrics & phrasing have often been a stumbling block for me with them - newmans writing often feels like a complete avalanche of syllables. I'm trying to keep up and parse the crazy imagery, meanwhile the band is mashing away at max intensity... when it hits it HITS, but other times wish i could do a fan remix where I could just mute every other line or something, just to put some space in there

i'm doing some recipe testing for a friend who is working on a cookbook, and tonight's project involved testing a stronger-than-i-would-make rum and bourbon punch

weirdly, last night i was also taste-testing rum drinks out of a weird recipe book while cranking this album!

and when you see the bruises on my legs from kicking pills yeah
then you see how recklessly the pages are filled!!!!!

MAKE HEADLINES
BELIEVE THEM
COME BACK

VISUALIZE SUCCESS

but don't believe your eyes
what's a version of the world
without the will to despise it

i like newman's lyrics a lot but i always thought he had the unenviable job of being on the same records as dan bejar

all right more hot takes: the first four new pornos records are basically all as good as each other, but electric version > mass romantic

opening verse of "chump change" is like the peak of music and lyrics 4 me

all right more hot takes: the first four new pornos records are basically all as good as each other, but electric version > mass romantic

the first four new pornos records are basically all as good as each other, but electric version > mass romantic

I agree w this take and love that it includes Challengers

i like-to-love all of bejar's songs on mass romantic but he suddenly becomes the best member of the band on electric version and i think this is what sends it over for me

i love every line on "ballad of a comeback kid" as if it were my own child

if we polled Bejar’s NP songs Myriad Harbor might take it for me

i think most of us would go for myriad harbor, it's kind of perfect

IT CAME OUT MAGICAL, OUT FROM BLOWN SPEAKERS
IT CAME OUT MAGICAL, OUT FROM BLOWN SPEAKERS

"from blown speakers" is maybe my favorite newman song ever

"Slow Descent"'s verses are A+ but the chorus/refrain fall flat (as illuminated in drunkposts above). Feel like AC could have spent a little more time on that one.

genuinely adore how much this band sucks at album covers

Lol, not quite Beautiful South level but yeah.

blown speakers is my fave by a wide margin, so good

sadly otm re album covers as well, really the worst

always kinda wish the New Pornos had done a remake of Superconductor's "There Goes Helen"

When I caught Superconductor live and they had 8 or 9 guitars iirc. I wonder if there's vids on the 'tube.

guitarists*

i think most of us would go for myriad harbor, it's kind of perfect

bottom three will be Breakin' the Law (zero votes), Execution Day (zero) and Mystery Hours (one)

i nearly voted for 'mystery hours', i love its OTT-ness

well now I wish I voted for execution day

As I suggested above, Game Theory's Big Shot Chronicles and Lolita Nation were a big melodic/harmonic influence on Newman, but Scott Miller could write similarly complex lyrics that were a lot more lucid than Newman was at this stage.

The New Pornographers' cover of "Breakin' The Law" is pretty underrated ITT. Not sure if many people ever heard the original:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G_oTSGod60

"Mystery Hours" definitely my least-favorite. Not sure with what I'll go end up going with. "Letter" is still in the running, even for a notorious underdog booster like myself.

Kind of want to give The Mary Martin Show a vote - by the time it comes on I should be exhausted by this album but it's such a blast before the comedown of Breakin the Law.

Mystery Hours is underrated but i voted for wild homes

all right more hot takes: the first four new pornos records are basically all as good as each other, but electric version > mass romantic

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, November 23, 2020

I agree w this take and love that it includes Challengers

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, November 23, 2020

+1 on both takes and on the inclusion of Challengers. even spicier take: Challengers is their strongest LP front-to-back.

idk if we're really even doing artist polls any more but NPs both deserves one and poses a toughie. like NPs+Newman solo kinda makes sense but throwing in Neko and Destroyer would be a mess

I'm finding this very difficult because this album feels - and I don't think this is a problem, just a quality - sort of undifferentiated to me, like all the songs are good in the same way and for the same reasons. Trying to pick one track out from the group is like staring at a picture that has a ton of color but all the color is at the same level of saturation. At a certain point, your eyes just can't focus anymore.

I found myself going through the songs minute by minute, trying to decide which cool bit was cooler than every other cool bit (like, do I want to vote for "To Wild Homes" because of the cool Fleetwood Mac-y Toooo-oooooo wiii-iiillld homes at the end, or do I prefer the chorus of "Letter from an Occupant?") Then I tried stepping back, letting my eyes go out of focus, and seeing what stood out from the background, and ended up with "The Fake Headlines."

But I still might vote for "Mass Romantic" because that feels somehow like voting for the album as a whole. Idk.

i jammed out to 'slow descent' earlier today because that song always sounded to me like a very fast descent into alcoholism, hence the joke and pleasure of the song, and i always related to it. that finishes my report on the new pornographers.

+1 on both takes and on the inclusion of Challengers. even spicier take: Challengers is their strongest LP front-to-back.

I would also say none of their albums are (quite) front-to-back killers.

None of their albums is perfect, but most of them are really, really good, is that what your after? Because that’s what I’ve come to think.

I'd say Electric Version, Twin Cinema and Newman's The Slow Wonder have no weak songs.

mass romantic is something like 10 killer songs in a row until it slows down at the end

Re: challengers, “my rights vs yours” is like the ur-new pornos song