i'm using "trip hop" and "big beat" interchangeably here
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 6 July 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
And you say *I* know naught about dance genres? Come on, even *I* know those are very different beasts! :-P
― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Monday, 6 July 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i never said that
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 6 July 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
xposts
The Magnificent would've sounded pretty amazing three or four years ago, when I was just catching L&PT fever (and starting this thread) but while I really appreciate the nice chord changes and such I feel he's come SUCH a long way since then (assuming that the tracks are older, of course, cos they *sound* older to me) that i'm not particularly *excited* about it. B-side wins again here though.
― mikebee (BATTAGS), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link
also xposts
i guess trip-hop for me has always been defined by its early, moody benchmarks -- massive attack/tricky/portishead most obviously. but for sure morcheeba counts, and mono too. (not that mono, the other mono.) so yeah it wasn't all philip k. dick soundtrack music, even though my favorite stuff sort of was. and that's the side of it dubstep picked up from. whereas lindstrom & al. seem groovier to me in all respects -- which is not a bad thing, i like the unabashed uplift of a lot of it.
― us_odd_bunny_lady (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i really want to hear lindstrom do something raw and crazy again like 'a blast of loser'. god that was good!
― old chisel (haitch), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link
so would it be correct to say that both trip hop and beardo are in some respects baggy or hippy? (stoner music, basically. beardo = the hippy acid house?) my fave lindstrom is "the contemporary fix", but there are so many good ones it is hard to choose.
― society for cutting up (tricky), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i like lots of shit that is probably 'trip hop' but when i think trip hop i pretty much exclusively think of the stuff i dont like & it all seems so limited by the breakbeats. boring rap instrumentals
― zzz (deej), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
I love the sprawl and kind of lack of focus of II"Acid Tracks". It really gives me the sense of two amazing musicians who just turned on the tape recorder and recorded whatever came out - get the same sort of vibe as from the Harmonia live album that was recently (re)released. Even if this isn't how they did it, the fact that it gives that kind of vibe is quite an accomplishment, to make something so complex and layered sound so... easily tossed off.
― winston, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link
revisiting old trip hop records, the breakbeats/boring rap instrumentals aspect totally ruins them, but so much could fit on the quiet village lp if they just had different beats. i'm thinking mo'wax and stuff, though, if we're talking morcheeba etc.. i can't see those sorts of folks tearing it up w/L&P, there's more of an adult contemporary focus going on there.
― winston, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 06:01 (fourteen years ago) link
winston needs to stop posting
― winston, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 06:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i kind of see the parallel in terms of removing all the "untasteful" attributes or whatever, but i think beardo has a wider range that encompasses more wacky goofy shit.
― winston, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm calling this downtempo instead of trip-hop or nu-balearic but it is basically in my top 3 of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_6SZw_GUy4
― winston, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ excellent!! you mean downtempo house for sure though right? (gotta say it's true that the genre hair-splitting gets annoying, but it's how you build a history. heh and a hagiography.)
― society for cutting up (tricky), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 06:47 (fourteen years ago) link
my favorite "trip hop" track in recent memory is "over the breaks" by j dilla.
― society for cutting up (tricky), Tuesday, 7 July 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i've always thought that nu-balearic has far more in common with trip hop or downtempo or chillout or whatever than it does with any old-school balearic stuff
― psychgawsple, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 08:45 (fourteen years ago) link
^ esp true of quiet village remixes like this, anything on claremont 56, that fred deakin comp, etc.
― psychgawsple, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 09:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Chillout and its forebears especially. The Mudd and the Mudd/Smith albums remind me a lot of Ultramarine. Obviously Mungolian Jet Sets are obsessed with the first The Orb album.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 7 July 2009 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i've always been trying to give fila brazillia credit for nu-balearic on ILX
― cutty, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm also a bit underwhelmed by II - and yet I LOVED LOVED LOVED Where You Go I Go Too, which I probably listened to more often than any other album in the second half of 2008. I miss the pristine precision, the emotional intensity, the sweep and the scale. Difficult to avoid the word "noodly" - which isn't necessarily a bad quality, but I was expecting rather more in the way of transcendence.
― mike t-diva, Monday, July 6, 2009 11:42 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
do u have tirdagsjam? if not, hunt it down immediately. it will scratch that itch
― Michael tapeworm much talent for the future (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i like tirdagsjam best. II is too noodly for me. iTunes is charging tirdagsjam at album price though wtf.
― willem, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link
― cutty
^^ QFT
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
ah, my brother
― cutty, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link
with you on this
― Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost - Yes, I got hold of Tirdgasjam before buying II, and so I thought II was going to be more of the same. Bah.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL-ing at my own typo there.
― willem, Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:03 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i complained about this upthread :)
― Michael tapeworm much talent for the future (s1ocki), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
lol tirdgasjam
if anyone has the means, listen to "slacker" by fila brazillia on "maim that tune" and report back
― cutty, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsbtFcP97k
― goole, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link
wow youtube never fails to amaze
― cutty, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link
srsly that could be on "where i go you go too" and none of y'all would know the difference between 2008 and 1995
― cutty, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
woops "where u go i go 2"
even more beardy IMHO
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
that's the only 90s Fila I don't have. Should I?
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
yes
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
woah that fila tune is really really great.
― jed_, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Wait, I totally had the wrong track on the Smalltown Supersound compilation. I <3 Meanderthals, they've lovely.
Except they have to go and stick that steel drum plug-in in the middle of the song, but I've come to just put up with the steel drums and the bongos on this kinda music.
― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
now you're hating on steel drums and bongos? imo those are two of the most lovable instruments like evar
― psychgawsple, Thursday, 9 July 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
sigh
― cutty, Thursday, 9 July 2009 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
btw feelin that fila brazillia as well
― psychgawsple, Thursday, 9 July 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
this has less swooshy sounds than where you go I go too and in my books that is a +
― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Sunday, 12 July 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Swooshy sounds are, to me, the most lovable sounds ever.
Swooshy sounds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sodding bongos
― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 12 July 2009 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Kate I'm guessing i won't be seeing you on the UK funky thread any time soon then.
― Tim F, Sunday, 12 July 2009 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, Tim, where you go, I go, too. ;-)
― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Monday, 13 July 2009 08:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Just about to listen to his Vascomaster cover on FP18 while I do a spot of light dusting around the house. Will I be delighted or disgusted?
― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Monday, 13 July 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
his = PT's
― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Monday, 13 July 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i dunno, but i just sb'd you for saying "vascomaster" again
― michael jatas (r1o natsume), Monday, 13 July 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
what's the guitar sample at the beginning of Flue Pa Veggen? Trying to remember is driving me nuts.
― Akon/Family (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 23 July 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link
surprised no ones talking about the magnificent which has been top of my rotation for the last few weeks
― max, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link