CS + Kreme - Snoopy

The Labradford vibe is real, I listened to this for the first time last night and was like "this reminds me of Labradford, and also weirdly of Legendary Pink Dots."

Pan American more specifically imo

It's my pandemic album of choice for sure and perfect all over again for dark winter lockdowns. The new EP is great too.

The Legendary Pink Dots reference is really interesting. I'm not really getting that but perhaps it had just never crossed my mind. Will definitely consider that next time I listen and as LPD has been another pandemic big listen, it may make perfect sense.

Might have something to do with vocal affect, for some reason I kept thinking of Shadow Weaver.

Can't really see how an album could be any better for lockdown listening.

Slightly off topic but I've been getting into Coil after reading this thread and I can totally see the similarity, especially on Ape Of Naples. Will need to check out Labradford and LPD too. Other recommendations for similar artists would be appreciated!

I had somehow never listened to Shadow Weaver before. It's so good and I can totally hear how it realates to "Snoopy".

Shadow Weaver was my first LPD, found a tape copy in a free box. Eventually my car tape deck tried to eat it and it became unspooled, but unbeknownst to me, my then-new boyfriend took it, found a new cassette housing, and re-spooled the tape by hand while decorating the outside of the housing with creepy graphics. He gave it back to me for my birthday, and is now my husband.

Wow, Shadow Weaver sounds great! Gonna have to buy the expanded reissue with the 20-min bonus track.
Had read about LPD for years as a big part of the whole England's Hidden Reverse axis, but 20-odd years ago it was of course much harder to investigate, so cheers...

I have quite a few LPD albums and always like everything I hear but their catalogue is so vast so I have no doubt missed lots of great ones. the table is the table, that is a great story about your husband!

I have quite a few LPD records, but totally get the vastness issue. The thread on ILM was actually quite helpful for getting into them!

Pan American more specifically imo

― rob, Tuesday, November 10, 2020 6:19 PM (yesterday)

I put on Labradford's "Mi Media Naranja" after posting this, and I have to retract this opinion. But the first self-titled Pan American album is kind of slept on and you should check it out anyway (PA is a solo project for Mark Nelson)

i love this album and i love that it's called snoopy

So fellow CS + Kreme fans, is there a track that we can all get behind for the end of year poll? I love Snoopy and will be voting for it is my A of the Y but I don't think there's any standout tracks, ie they're all at a similar level of excellence. Wouldn't want to go for Pussywhistle Tea though because fuck me that's a terrible song title.

Could go for either of the tracks from the new single too

Very tough to pick a standout track as it is a much more an overall immersive listen. "Snoopy" will be in my top 2 of 2020 but for a track I think (if i were voting) I'd maybe go with "Bugged" off the new single.

i'll def be voting for it in the albums poll

Bugged is immense. Love the beat but unable to explain exactly how it is “wrong”

Mount Warning would be the track for me; but it'll be Snoopy I vote for.

this album is something else, it does not go down easy for me. it’s so haunted... supremely chill surface but it’s as if it’s hiding something really nasty and awful underneath... idk.. “thoughts”

“Where did blueberries go” is definitely the best album-opening line of 2020

some of it kind reminds me of some of Piano Magic’s eerie early stuff

vibes wise

anyone get that two cassette mix they just put out, reel torque 20? i've got it but i won't get a chance to listen until christmas (it's wrapped rn up as a lil present to myself), no tracklist, what a mystery

don't know how i missed this all year, incredible stuff

track in the first post is still my favorite but yeah this is good stuff

anyone get that two cassette mix they just put out, reel torque 20? i've got it but i won't get a chance to listen until christmas (it's wrapped rn up as a lil present to myself), no tracklist, what a mystery

Jealous - I didn't know about that. Hopefully someone will rip it to Youtube at some point.

this album is something else, it does not go down easy for me. it’s so haunted... supremely chill surface but it’s as if it’s hiding something really nasty and awful underneath... idk.. “thoughts”

― brimstead, Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:19 AM (twenty hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah. i'm just going off "roast ghost (ultra lavender mix)" but it's like plants growing out of chopped up bodies or something.

(xp) I assumed from the way that it's described on Boomkat that the Reel Torque tape is a DJ mix with maybe some original material sprinkled in, not worlds away from many of the cassette-only releases on The Trilogy Tapes

So fellow CS + Kreme fans, is there a track that we can all get behind for the end of year poll? I love Snoopy and will be voting for it is my A of the Y but I don't think there's any standout tracks, ie they're all at a similar level of excellence. Wouldn't want to go for Pussywhistle Tea though because fuck me that's a terrible song title.

― paolo, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:06 (two days ago)

It's tough to pick a single track, it does all sort of flow together. Blue Flu & Mount Warning are maybe the two that jump out at me most often, but then Saint feels like the one that's the perfect lockdown time capsule. Will definitely be voting for the album high up on my album ballot anyway.

Appreciate the suggestions for similar artists/albums upthread. Got Shadow Weaver by Legendary Pink Dots on just now & it's sounding pretty great.

:-)

dang this is good

The recent single is so great to just ~space~ to

Damn, how did I miss this? ANY mention of Labradford and/or The For Carnation should immediately send up a bat signal of some sort.

Now's not the time for glibness but the widescreen creeping dread of the recent EP is perfect for watching the world burn.

hey what's up, i listened to the tape mix - pretty good

they've got asa chang and junray - hana on there, patty waters, public enemy, a song from the ghost dog soundtrack, got some throat singing on there, some gamelan

whole thing is a trip tbh

Sounds like my freeform radio sets during my uni days!

this album should appeal to all you snoopy-heads that wanna get churned up by more coil-esque looping psychedlic ambient

Geins't Naït & Scanner ‎– GN / Scanner

https://open.spotify.com/album/5kgC1RMEMkt9lsrTU6k2XA?si=Ymr6pPPOTMuNK-KP6zA1WA

That's on Offen isn't it? Love that label.

yep! anything vladimir ivkovic touches is worthwhile imo

Saw that they have a new mix here:
https://crackmagazine.net/article/mixprofile/cs-kreme/

Blue Six – Sweeter Love (Jay's Full Vocal)

not gonna lie to you, been waiting on the naked music revival...

discovered this only now via the albums poll. it is incredible that there is still so much fascinating, uncharted territory on the map of music. there is something haunting about this stuff. i get the piano music comparison but here there are more noises and not so many voices. "mount warning" is a phantastic trip into some dark places, maybe a descent into a cave?

piano magic comparison, obv.

I've also discovered them through the albums poll and am really digging them. What they do goes beyond mood; these are full-bodied tracks with enigmatic personalities.

If I can thank ILM for just three things, those things would be Junior Boys, Sault, and this

I was hoping that they would place high enough in the albums poll to get more people to check them out, so it's great to see that's happened.

:-)

heard this today for the first time, i know it's not quite there (nowhere near murky enough) but i think this is the closest thing i've heard to 'snoopy'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-pGZsf3Vck

Roy Montgomery with Kirk Lake - London Is Swinging By His Neck (1998)

Now That's What I Call Neo-Folk!

yeah, sounds great.

new album out now

It's growing on me on a third listen; I still miss the more song-based approach of Snoopy, but this sounds awesome.

Also loved this mix: https://nr.world/cs-kreme/

great mix, incredibly boring interview

new album is just ok imo, and I rated Orange higher than most

so far i don’t like this as much as snoopy. but will keep listening

i like this record a lot, it is hitting all of my spots. feels more of a whole mood than Orange, certainly.

I really like it too, maybe my favorite from them

I thought it was a bad sign that the CS + Kreme NTS show was solo CS this month, and I didn't have to look far to find this :-(

"CS + Kreme is done." https://www.instagram.com/p/DKioi8fBpB4/?hl=en

Aww, wow. I really wish I had gone to see them in Kyoto when we coincided, but I'm terrible at going to see shows after a long day of sightseeing.

bummer!

oh that's a real shame :(

still think that last year’s album was really quite good and should have received more attention than it did

agreed, though Snoopy set the bar pretty high

oh of course, but i think last year’s was on par, if very different

Yeah, I really liked it. I listened to it a bunch when it was released and then kinda forgot about it. Definitely planning to revisit, though

the first two EPs are getting reissued this month. so that's good!

As much as I love Orange and Snoopy, I've never heard these, so I'm mighty tempted. What are the chances that, after paying exorbitant shipping costs to the US, they arrive free of tariff fuckery? I'm so hesitant to order any records from overseas right now (which sucks, because that's typically where I do the majority of my online record shopping)

ICYMI (like I did until today), two weeks ago on Nov 15th 2025 Modern Love released an album by a project called Sara Udon, which I was only alerted to via Steph Kretowicz' EOY Electronics Column in The Wire's Rewind 2025 issue that just came out--turns out Sara Udon = CS + Kreme working with another duo I was unfamiliar with, KAKUHAN (Koshiro Hino on sampler and Yuki Nakagawa on cello), = duo + duo, which is why I have to assume the album is called II = II.

Since it's out on Modern Love, it's exclusively available via Boomkat, but it sounds great [and I love Boomkat and don't spend enough money with them (although their artist EOY lists are due to go live very soon, and that's always a solid incentive to support them IMO)]: https://boomkat.com/products/ii-ii-989f657c-25ae-40cd-9530-345e3791493a

Ooh I had no idea about this, thank you!

Yes thanks for the tip

haaaang onnnn snooopy, snoopy hang on

thanks, purchased