pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

An interview with Bono’s sunglasses

https://www.spin.com/2020/11/bono-spin-interview-sunglasses/

lol sorry wrong thread

"Inspired by his mother’s Alzheimer’s, the"

lol come on

it may very well be true, that he was inspired, but if so, it is a tale told 5 or 25 chapters deep into some fucked up story, not the very first words to describe a set of music for commercial release

inspired by my only child's diarrhea vomit deathbed, the

Inspired by the gruesome death of Princess Di at age 36, the

tbf Ulver did actually have a recent album inspired by that

I keep getting Salem videos rec'd to me, and I keep on internally saying to myself, "I didn't like this shit the first time"

congratulations! you're officially too old now.

I think I just don't like shitty music.

Salem has always been bullshit

Oh that’s not in reference to Salem, just to that feeling.

Oh, then definitely. I started posting here when I was barely 21. I'm now 36.

i don't mean for here! i mean for pitchfork!

Oh lol. I haven't read Pitchfork for years, I'm a Quietus and Resident Advisor guy.

looking at p4k's reviews over the past month or so--very heavy with reissue and retrospective reviews. Release schedule must be light for some reason.

almost like there's a global event making it difficult for bands to write and release new albums

It's kind of funny how Pitchfork writes about shit like Salem as if they ever fucking mattered in the first place

tbf there's a piece in the New Yorker this week as well. critics of a certain age.

when music turns 10 years old it is suddenly classic

eagerly awaiting the critical resurgence of Kitty Pryde

100 gecs 2032 reunion tour spurring thought pieces in suprastacks everywhere

tbf no joking this is 10 out of 10 amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNlkiitx0vY

10 years since salem's fader fort set should be celebrated imo

I think I'm paying attention to different music than y'all, because to me it's been a banner year for electronic music and jazz and all kinds of releases, even with the pandemic. Hell, there are tons of great pandemic albums.

same

almost like there's a global event making it difficult for bands to write and release new albums

― na (NA), Friday, November 6, 2020 11:05 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i think it’s the opposite, pandemic seems to have made bands that would’ve spent the year touring go back into the studio. like every band has released an album this year?

There is tons of new music; they really shouldn’t be reviewing a Wilco reissue on a Friday.

“Hmmm. I’ve never heard of Salem or witch house before. Wonder what Wikipedia has to say about them.”

“Salem (sometimes stylized as S4LEM or SALEM)...”

“lol fuck this shit”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNlkiitx0vY

if you've never heard of salem before, their live at fader fort video is an absolute must watch

so good that it was posted only yesterday

the original upload got taken down recently

Lol Snrub

(Sometimes stylized as MRSNRU8)

Yeah, tbqh despite some occasional good writing (often by people who post on here, afaict), P4k seems more and more like Rolling Stone or Spin seemed to me in the early to mid aughts-- often straining for relevancy while simultaneously focusing on big-tent shit that no one who actually cares about music wants to pay attention to.

but presumably gets clicks

It points more toward the irrelevancy of P4k to a certain younger demographic than anything. I have plenty of friends with teens, and none of them give a flying fuck about Wilco, and rightly so! But do the more nerdy and strange among them click on the OPN and Arca reviews on P4k? Sure.

I guess I just stopped reading it as much because of what has been pointed out, that so many of the reviews and news focus on shit that doesn't matter to me...aka contemporary guitar driven music, which is overwhelmingly mediocre.

I'm not exactly capn save a p4k but I don't know that there's a good way to make everyone happy on four reviews a day tbh

I mean, my idea would be to stop reviewing reissues of albums that suck.

Or stop trying to be everything to everyone.

The difference is that in the early to mid 00s Rolling Stone and Spin were being overtaken by p4k. Not sure there’s a big outlet overtaking p4k, or if such a thing will ever happen again

xp I have a sort of opposite suggestion, which would be to expand their coverage ever further. They could publish multiple reviews per week in genres they barely touch, in addition to what they’re already doing. (It’s what we did at a successful, for awhile, music dot-com in the early 2000s.) Maybe this would turn off readers who are just looking for “cool music”; but otoh, maybe Pitchfork could lead their readers toward appreciating a wider lens.

I may have said this before on here but P4k held the party line during the SoundCloud rap and Supreme bedroom pop era and basically got their milkshake drank by No Jumper and Pigeons & Planes.

xpost

I mean, my idea would be to stop reviewing reissues of albums that suck.

― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table)

I'm listening to a Mary J. Blige reissue.

Wilco reissues are for core p4k readers what CSN box sets are for core RS readers

Or stop trying to be everything to everyone.

― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table),

I think this is...wrong. The rockcrit generation emergent after 2012 is more hospitable to Black, disco, and country than Pitchfork's original crew, and god bless'em -- I'm older than they and hated the condescension. Acting as some sort of arbiter, whatever their clicks in 2020, works.

It's a circular argument. To stop being Everything to Everyone would be retreating to covering Wilco-esque bands.

im pretty sure the fraction of guitar music covered by p4k is at an all-time low in 2020