THE WORST NME COVER OF ALL TIME

NME 10.02.2007
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yaaaooow!

NME goes Zoo or Nuts

Is this the best or worst front cover?

Beth Ditto naked !

This week's NME
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is that a photoshop hack or the real deal?

oh Nick ! got in quick ! [it just arrived in my bloglines]

next person to piss me off on ILX gets their face photoshopped onto Beth's (face or ass, haven't decided yet).

Actually, that cover is great and a rare example of wit on NME's part.

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How is it witty? Also, they have removed most of her lower back.

lol at the fact that they've had a meeting to discuss how many rolls of fat they can Photoshop out of the picture while still making her recognisably fat.

Well, it's clearly a play on the Demi Moore Vanity Fair cover and lad's mags, subverting the typical body image found on that (and other) magazines.

Then again they may have just liked the idea of having a naked BBW on the cover.

Yeah, if there's one thing you don't associated with emaciated pasty indie boys it's a love of fat girls.

Ha. She's been on the cover already right? Hope so. I'd rather see her in some sort of ridiculous costume, man's suit whatever. Going nude always seems a cynical or desperate ploy - that 'it's a man's world after all' thing. I can't see this as some liberating feminist statement just because of her figure (as opposed to 'weight').

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Photoshopped indeed!

The message here is not "it's a man's world after all" or some kind of liberating feminist statement. It's quite clearly "Kiss My Ass".

The joke, as I see it is the LOLs at indie music geeks struggling to make sense of it.

..plus she strips off to various degrees whenever they play live so it's not much of ploy in this case.

Beth Ditto will be appearing on MTV News within the next few days to let us know what Beth Ditto thinks of the Beth Ditto controversy.

"controversy"? What is this? 1989?

The message here is not "it's a man's world after all" or some kind of liberating feminist statement. It's quite clearly "Kiss My Ass".

going nude doesn't really enhance a 'kiss my ass' message anymore than say...dressing up as a 12ft lizard and pointing a gun at the camera tho right?

Except you get to paint a big kiss mark on her actual ass. And just in case that's not obvious enough, the happily print "Kiss My Ass" in large letters right next to it.

Clear enough for ya?

it's not about the (unoriginal, banal) messages they INTEND tho is it.

Yes. Yes it is.

No. It's about the messages received, not the ones that are sent. But if you prefer to see the cover as harmless fun with no connotations AT ALL beyond arse value then good luck to you in your gumdrop house on lollipop lane. ADIEU.

If you look closely, it's Paul McCartney who has left the lipstick on Beth's bottom.

Loaded magazine has a picture of Harry Hill on the front this month.

Q: Does the editorial crow proudly about breaking convention and having male front page this month?

How the fuck has You've Been Framed presenter Harry Hill have any cultural capital left?

But yeah, the NME "Ditto naked" cover screams to me "we're desperate for something to hang a hook on in the absense of any real musical movements; oh, and we're also radical - look, a fat naked lesbian!". It does nothing for 'feminism' because she's still plastered in make-up and airbrushed to within an inch of her life; they've just managed to sexually objectify a fat woman, is all.

Also: We're a bit sorry about the "Muse" business before.

there's this program called harry hill's tv burp, nick. it's good. swing by the rolling uk comedy thread on ile one day.

uh yeah. tv burp is possibly the best show on UK TV.

Let's have a picture of an actual NME writer on this thread:

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IS THE NME SNEAK PREVIEW USEFUL TO YOU?
DO YOU EVER USE THE NME MAG AS A REFERENCE OR WOULD YOU LIKE A MEMBER OF
THE NME TEAM TO COMMENT ON YOUR SHOW
DROP US A LINE AND GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK
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Please find attached the NME Exclusive Cover Preview. Beth Ditto does give a
F**k about body image!!!

Yet one of the things Beth Ditto does gives a f*ck about, is body image. So
much so, that Beth recently refused for The Gossip to play instores at
Topshop, citing her dissatisfaction that there isn't a clothes range
available in her size. She even went as far as to offer to design clothes
for them. She's never claimed to promote her body size ("I'm just saying
people should be empowered about who they are," she tells us), yet it's
worth asking, does she feel a responsibility to pick a side in the size zero
debate?
"Not at all," says Beth, immediately. "Things are more complicated than that
- there's too many factors to pick a side. The older I get and the more
models and designers I meet... sometimes models are naturally just thin.
Like, that's their size."
When you talk about meeting models, do you mean Kate Moss?
"Kate is amazing," purrs Beth.
"I spent one night talking to her and she just said the most amazing things
about bodies. At first I didn't think I was going to like her, but she just
turned up to one of our shows and said, 'Do you know what I hate, Beth? When
people tell my big girlfriends, 'You have a beautiful face...'' I mean,
that's a really radical concept."
Do you not think Kate Moss actually has a responsibility to answer to the
size debate, though?
"You can't hate a person for dieting, and you can't blame a person for
feeling shit about themselves. You have to blame the machine that feeds it,
the thing that makes people feel like that. There are lots of things that
are part of that machine, and it's too easy to lay the blame at the feet of
women - men don't know what it feels like to be a woman and be expected to
look a particular way all the time. The Beckhams are part of the machine;
Paris Hilton is part of the machine. There's that thing Paris Hilton said
about Lindsay Lohan - 'You're poor, ugly and fat'. It's always women who are
victims of that machine and the messages the machine gives out."
But surely Kate Moss is that machine?
"I had those conversations with Kate," says Beth, "and Kate agreed with me.
She's a smart person."
Do you think she's happy doing what she's doing?
"I don't know."
But if she agreed with you...
"I have this thing where I don't ever want to bad-mouth a woman. Except for
Paris Hilton." She laughs again. "Please tell me you saw that thing where
she was crying in the newpapers, about her going to prison. It was so funny.
I was laughing until I was crying."
Tell me more about not wanting to bad-mouth women...
Beth speaks quietly again. "I pick and choose my battles. I think
Condoleezza Rice is more of a goddamn shame than Kate Moss, and I think
those are the things people should concentrate on. What I'm saying is that,
if there's anyone to blame for size zero, it's not women. Blame the media.
Blame gay men who work in the fashion industry who want these women as
dolls."
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beth ditto comes across very well there

Gay Men/Dolls? hmmm.

yeah! CIO gay men!

Drummer for Gay Dad

Beth Ditto was the drum riser for the rock group Gay Dad.

Hi, girls!

I'm a femail singer/songwriter. My friends and I want to form a gay girl rock band. We need a guitarist and a bassist to complete our band.
We play indie/punk rock.
Influences: Greenday, Blink 182, A.Lavigne, Razorlight, The View and so on.

If you're a gay girl, who plays a guitar or a bass, please, email me! :o)

CD given free with NME, 13th June 2007
To coincide with Muse's Wembley Gigs on the 16th and 17th June 2007

1. (00:02:28) Lord Buckley - The Train
2. (00:01:20) Gustav Holst - Mars: The Bringer of War
3. (00:03:50) Clor - Good Stuff
4. (00:04:03) The Flaming Lips - The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song
5. (00:04:57) Lightning Bolt - Magic Mountain
6. (00:03:09) Shy Child - Generation Y (We Got It)
7. (00:03:05) Death From Above 1979 - Blood On Our Hands
8. (00:03:38) Does It Offend You,Yeah! - Battle Royale
9. (00:04:01) CSS - Alala
10. (00:03:44) Cold War Kids - Hang Me Up To Dry (Live)
11. (00:04:04) Bjork - Triumph of a Heart
12. (00:01:54) Muse - Man of Mystery
13. (00:11:50) Lord Buckley - The Nazz

Didn't Clor split up about two years ago?

yeah and holst's DEAD!

I can't imagine Lightning Bolt agreed to include that from the comments I heard about Muse

2. (00:01:20) Gustav Holst - Mars: The Bringer of War

ha ha matt bellamy is such an arsetrumpet.