Obviously their tastes and idiosyncrasies are what make/made them who they were/are, but Neil and Prince, they just seemed utterly incapable of handling their catalogs in a fan-friendly way. Just always moving on to the next shiny object/technology/website.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link
yeah i always imagine dudes like that as being a worst case scenario combination of having complete and utter sign-off-on-everything final say over everything, while at the same time being completely incapable of being forced to pay attention/attend the actual boring meetings where they are actually needed to look at & sign off on stuff.
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link
I really love the era being covered here and the contents are amazing, but I'm not paying $250 and chasing pre-order links for a limited number of these deluxe boxes. I'll wait patiently in the hopes that a significantly more affordable CD only version pops up soon.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link
It's extra-galling that so much of this is already legally out there.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link
Still not seeing anything that indicates there won't be a standard edition?
To me it reads as if the deluxe sold out so fast that they realized they can sell more posters and books for $250.
I want this so bad but there's no way I'm paying that much when I already have most of it.
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 22 October 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link
I agree, that note from Neil is not clear on that point at all. I really hope there will be one and not that they are the best crowd from which to judge, but a lot of H0ffmanites are insistent this deluxe is the only version. Who knows though, probably some of those dorks wanting to keep up the value of the deluxe boxes so they can flip 'em later.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
yeah tbh 13 unreleased tracks (excluding versions) out of a 10-disc box is a bit less than what i was hoping for
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
It's such a fuck-you to the fans. "Hey, thanks for buying Tuscaloosa and the Roxy set and Homegrown! Now you have the rare opportunity to buy them again! And for a lot more money, too! You're welcome!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that sucks, but he pulled the same thing with the first Archives box too.
I'm disappointed that the long rumored Odeon-Budokan double live thing is getting smashed down to a single disc.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
I think that one was double-live only in that it was going to be a double LP.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
I'm 100% positive Odeon-Budokan will be issued as an expanded standalone double-disc or boxed set. After Archives II sells out.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link
XP...so it could feasibly be an 80-minute CD.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link
Although... checking that tracklist, that wouldn't appear to be the case, unless Cowgirl & Cortez are jumbo jams. Iirc, the circulating boots have more electric stuff.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link
odeon budokan here is designed as a single LP, one side acoustic, the other electric. it's about 45 minutes long which is about 45 minutes too short.
― tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
fuck this, I'm out. gonna take my copy of Homegrown and go sulk.
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link
fuck you, Neil
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link
messing with the Odeon show, wtf
ha, well, I think that this is the live LP that was prepped back in 76 and left unreleased. but yeah, he should be putting out an entire spring 76 w/ crazy horse show.
― tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
is anyone really buying this for those 13 songs? how many of those are just alternate versions?
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
my understanding is theres a bunch of live/alternate versions of previously released songs, as well as 13 songs "that have never been released in any form"
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
i can't believe they aren't doing a basic cd box set, so dumb
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
I can't believe he's not putting out a 25-LP edition of this.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
i can't believe his website won't let you copy and paste the text that's on it
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
it must only be read in its original fidelity
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link
the ONLY website that recreates the memories of digging out your favorite LPs from your dusty file cabinet!
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
i get frustrated at NYA but also love the sheer audacity of how fucking insane and backwards the ux is
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
Yeah the 13 "new" songs is really misleading, One Eye Open otm. There are 13 new songs that have never been released in any for whatsoever, and I think I want to say like 58 alternate and live versions that have been previously unreleased. So I still think it's a pretty cool set, considering the era covered. But as with pretty much anything Neil does, there is a base level of confusion and disappointment that comes with anything he announces.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
alternate versions in neil's case can be pretty meaningful too, for example you could say that "white line" off homegrown was already a released song on ragged glory but they might as well be different songs
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link
In the midst of this, there's a Greendale live archive thing out soon no one's talking about.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
49 previously unreleased alternate versions and 13 "new" songs (most of these have not been bootlegged before either). i mean, it's not nothing!
― tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
but i mean, yeah ... I must've said it at least three times before on this very thread: Neil should have started releasing definitive "deluxe" reissues of his records 15 years ago with bonus discs. And then continued the "performance series" releases. Would've made all of this very simple and straightforward.
― tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
Right, weren't we supposed to be getting that deluxe Ragged Glory this year? But now we get... Greendale? Oh, Neil.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
haha i mean greendale is the most *neil* of all neil boondoggles and i don't think he will ever give up on it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
He loves Greendale
― tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
He isn't wrong
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link
Oh I'll buy the Greendale thing to, I just was looking forward to that Ragged Glory thing.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
too, dammit, thanks Neil
the hearse theater has a song from solo trans today - "i got a problem" - oh man this is gonna be some nutty shit
also "homefires" is up on NYA, great song
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
i know i make fun of it a lot, but i honestly feel this way too!
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
it is old internet for sure
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link
its so bad
― Spottie, Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link
ha yeah its definitely old internet, which I kind of love it for - clearly conceived for the era when people would spend a whole afternoon exploring one website
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
"there are so many fun detours to get lost in, i feel like i always discover something new when i'm exploring it!" vs 2020: "just gimme the fuckin content as fast and plainly as possible, pls"
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link
neil young, visionary, in the late 70s: i wish there were a way for my fans to have all my music at once, like a virtual file cabinet
neil young, living legend, late 2000s: !! wait a second
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
The purest, most analog file cabinet.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 October 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
It's the most analog a digital file cabinet could be. He'll probably find some way to burn it all down in a virtual fire to get the virtual insurance money.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 October 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
gotta say, for all the complaints, there are tons of amazing things on this set. neil young is the greatest.
― tylerw, Thursday, 22 October 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
there are two tracks up from the green dale live album, they sound really great
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link
archives update:
10-23-20Reprise Records, my record company for about 50 years, underestimated the demand for Archives VOLUME II. We were all surprised. It is a beautiful package that I am proud to have made for you. I do feel badly that we did not deliver it to many who were waiting so long for it.
We don’t feel that offering more of a product sold as a limited edition is a good thing to do. Thank you to all who purchased this set.
In 2021 we will be offering more Archives VOLUME II products as Reprise had originally planned, available in all outlets. These, while not the boxed set, will offer all of the of the music and discs with a smaller book. The original large book will be available for separate sale.Thanks! NYA
― tylerw, Friday, 23 October 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
ok cool, sucks it's not until 2021 though
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 October 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link