i am definitely going to wait until christmas eve for that - i can't stand either of those songs
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link
fuck christmas. i am the enemy of christmas that fox news warns about
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link
i will take christmas and transform it into the nightmare of santa claus
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:37 (three years ago) link
although the Snow EP is notable because they never do covers... only other one is Strange Fruit from the BBC Sessions, I think
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:37 (three years ago) link
Frosty the Snowman is the most alt-rock Christmas song, it sounds all happy but it's about knowing you will melt to death
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link
well that does kinda sound nice :)
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link
Frosty the Snowman knew the sun was hot that day
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:39 (three years ago) link
don't forget this lovely tidbit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFO7PxMiwe4
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 04:54 (three years ago) link
I started listening to CT as a teenage Cure fan, after I read in an interview that Robert Smith liked them. I got Victorialand for Christmas and I still remember putting it on the record player at the wrong speed and loving it. Then I realized it was supposed to be played at 45 (still don't know why or if other LPs like that exist), and it sounded even better! Worked my way back the catalog and fell in love with everything. Especially the EPs which I really had to track down.
Blue Bell Knoll seemed a bit formulaic when it came out compared to the rest, but HOLV totally brought them back. I still can't get into 4CC save for a few songs and Milk and Kisses is a good album although a bit going through the motions.
Still probably my favorite band of all time. I had a great time doing the poll a couple of years ago and it made me hear BBK in a new light.Cups of POLLy-Dewdrops' Drops -- ILM Artist Poll #35 -- The COCTEAU TWINS results thread
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
LeRoo was that interview in CREEM? If so, exact same here!
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link
Started working on the EPs as a result of this thread revive.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 October 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
it's the chocolate, it's the chocolate on my to-ooth
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
ok, if i were to, i don't know, blow a bunch of my paycheck on some cocteau twins LPs, which releases should i look for, try to avoid, notoriously bad pressings, etc?
for example, did anyone get the 4AD reissue of Victorialand this year?https://www.discogs.com/Cocteau-Twins-Victorialand/release/14941059
and for Blue Bell Knoll, i guess the most recent reissue was 2014? anyone have that one?https://www.discogs.com/Cocteau-Twins-Blue-Bell-Knoll/release/5883381
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link
for the eps, was there ever any sort of Lullabies To Violaine-esque collection on vinyl? "i don't even own a CD player"
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
sadly, no. but there is this great Canadian twofer of Tiny Dynamine and Echoes for $35:
https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/826703464
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link
this is a pretty good deal but it doesn't have 'The Spangle Maker' a 7" for $14
https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/1182030935
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link
this also seems like a good deal? Peppermint Pig 12" for $17
https://www.discogs.com/sell/item/1183618315
everything else on vinyl in USD looks a bit scary pricewise for OGs
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link
as per your links above, yes to BBK and no to Victorialand, looks like the latter has a lot of bad pressings
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link
it is mine.
:D
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
Nice work. I have one of those Canadian Vertigo pressings that has the Treasure LP and the Aikea-Guinea EP packaged with it, sounds great.
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link
and then i also bought the peppermint pig 12", as well as the pink opaque ($20). i did it!
i'll probably just pick up the BBK reissue, then, and hold off on victorialand. (but i adore victorialand)
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
the pink opaque i only got because it was from the same seller as the peppermint pig. i'm in collector mode so i know i'm going to end up getting them all anyway, but the pink opaque will tide me over in the meantime
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link
I'd kind of love to be listening to some of these right now but a friend's funeral during lockdown closed with Domino and I can't bring myself to.
― pedantly admonishment (aldo), Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
I think it was in French mag Les Inrockuptibles, but thanks Robert!!
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
good call on The Pink Opaque as well, that way you get "Millimillenary" and all of The Spangle Maker 12"
― sleeve, Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link
(xpost to Karl)
Very sorry about that Aldo. Hopefully that song can bring you joy again and remind you of your friend. (x-post)
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
My CT drug story: listening to the EPs box set on NYE 1991 while out of my mind on LSD in my bedroom, very specifically "quisquose"....there is a bit in it, which is transcribed on the internet as "Quise qualledo qualledo quallido quallido do do do do aua Rococo au oahoo"
at that precise moment, it was like the fabric of reality was unraveled in glowing ribbons. Dunno if I ever recovered.
― akm, Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
Darvon + Victorialand made for some lovely evenings
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link
what are the antecedents of this band? I read somewhere that as high-haired scottish late teens/20 somethings, they were way into Siouxie… and that they collaborated with Harold Budd suggests that they had an interest in minimalist composition…but I have a harder time intuiting what they must have been into initially for inspiration than I do peers like, say, MBV…would they have been into the Berlin Trilogy? and I guess Fraser likes Tim Buckley…lemme know them thoughts…
From their website:
The band members have cited among their influences such artists as Patsy Cline, Roy Orbison, The Ronettes, and the Beach Boys, and reminiscences of these can be heard in the thick textures and melodies of Love's Easy Tears. Loud and trebled guitar roar and chime over thumping drums and a dancing bass and, of course—that voice—which pierces the colorful washes of sound with candy-coated choruses and howls of non-specificity.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
howls of non-specificity
working title for Smile
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 October 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link
been a while since I had a DN, thanks
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:00 (three years ago) link
let me just check out the allmusic review for the pink opaque, written by one..let's see...ned raggett? never heard of him. but ned says " The version of Garlands' "Wax and Wane" included here is slightly remixed and arguably even better than the original, bringing out everything a little more clearly and powerfully.", and to that i say YESSSSSS, because i love the original
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
Also the only release you can find Millimillenary on, I think?
― avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link
it seems that when i set off to purchase cocteau twins records, i can do no wrong!
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link
Yup. Also I have no idea who that guy is.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
ned otm about the pink opaque version of wax and wane. i’m biased because it’s the first way i heard it
― sknybrg, Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link
Anyway I'm pleased to see that the legendary Great Pop Things strip on how the band came to be is still easily found:
https://wewillhavesalad.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/cocte.jpg?w=768&h=256
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link
bc of this thread i listened to treasure for the first time and holy shit lorelai, i knew i remembered it from somewhere and it was sampled by the field
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0aI6CJHqKs
― cointelamateur (m bison), Friday, 16 October 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link
which if i had bothered to listen to this on youtube years ago i wouldve learned sooner, but o well
― cointelamateur (m bison), Friday, 16 October 2020 03:09 (three years ago) link
I don’t agree with whatever ppl think Treasure lags in the middle, nfw
― brimstead, Friday, 16 October 2020 04:04 (three years ago) link
Treasure has great stuff but I am kind of done with it, after 30+ years, in a way that I’m not done with other stuff of theirs.
― assert (MatthewK), Friday, 16 October 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link
Anyway, this Sunday:
For Cocteau Twins lovers everywhere and even those of you who are curious, I am hosting a @LlSTENlNG_PARTY for our '93 lp Four-Calendar Cafe on Sunday 10pm 18th October (Uk time) so please join me for some music and stories to boot..... pic.twitter.com/FjMJWhmg0e— mrsimonraymonde (@mrsimonraymonde) October 16, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 October 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
Abbey and I visited THE four-calendar canteen in CT’s honour in Bandung, Indonesia a couple of years and met some AMAZING CT fans. Here is a photo abbey took pic.twitter.com/6zgI5J74Xn— mrsimonraymonde (@mrsimonraymonde) October 18, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link
most of my cocteau binge came in yesterday and this morning!
tiny dynamine/echoes in a shallow bay 2-ferthe pink opaquepeppermint pig
the dynamine/echoes compilation is great. i have another release by Vertigo, a comp of Kraftwerk 1 and 2, that is similarly excellent quality. i especially love the dynamine ep, out of the two. on a scale of warm hue combos, i am going to give this release 2 oranges, 2 pinks, and 1 red.
peppermint pig 12", i need to listen to it again, but i remember thinking that i liked the songs on the b-side ("laugh lines" and "hazel") a bit more than the single. i'll give it 1 orange, and 2 pinks, due to the pig theme.
the pink opaque is an instant favorite record for me, even though it's a comp. i think i love every goddamn song on there, and i've played it 5-6 times since i got it yesterday. 8 pinks, 4 purples, and 1 red.
the most reissue of blue bell knoll is on its way to my apartment tomorrow. :D
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
btw, i haven't allowed myself the luxury of reading through LBI's cocteau twins poll. i want to wait juuuust a bit longer, until i have a better grasp on garlands and head over heels. then i can scroll through the rollout with maximum fandom. can't wait!
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
so happy for you! Head Over Heels was the first LP I got of theirs and in many ways is my favorite.
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link
another simple luxury that i'm going to partake in at this very moment: I AM READING THE WHOLE WIKIPEDIA ENTRY. here we go.
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 October 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link
(Fraser had Siouxsie tattoos on her arms for several years).[13]
amazing what a simple use of past tense can add
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Friday, 23 October 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link
did not know that!
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 23 October 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link