I hate ILoveMusic, it's got too many POLLS - Artist Poll #104 - THE REPLACEMENTS - RESULTS

I voted 'Another Girl, Another Planet' as well, it never really left the setlist after 87' or so, it really became an essential track for me.

I googled “Paul Westerberg is an asshole Trouble Boys” and I learned he blew some blow in a fan’s face before I wound up on Dangerous Minds where they excerpt a bit about a Houston show that ended in a riot. Nicest of all though is at the end of the article they have a February’86 Old Grey Whistle performance that I’d never seen of “On The Bus”. Peak Bob Stinson guitar leads.

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Cool, thanks!

I still think a lot about Paul in “Trouble Boys” and idk, just the way undiagnosed depression can really fuck with a person & their relationships etc

also Bob’s whole story in the book is brutal too

Bob’s story is awful. So sad.

So Alex Chilton actually opened for them at that train wreck G&tBs CBGB show which he of course loved, which is why he ended up producing some early versions of Tim (and PTMM) tracks. Would like to hear the version of “Left of the Dial” with him on it, can’t seem to find.

Oh wait, think that is the official version. Not sure I can hear his vocal on there.

I still think a lot about Paul in “Trouble Boys” and idk, just the way undiagnosed depression can really fuck with a person & their relationships etc

also Bob’s whole story in the book is brutal too

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:33 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Obv a good deal younger than them but still old enough to have grown up in the same MN culture I can't really express the total inability to talk about ones feeling were instilled in us, alongside a drinking culture that basically made that the center of your whole social life from 13/14 on

And I'm still not 100% over those things

Though I didn’t vote for any ASD tracks, I do consider it an admirable gesture of uncommon honesty that Paul allowed it to be such an unrelenting, joyless (to me it is, anyway) affair. In this way I see it as a kind of documentary, their whole career, from obnoxious intoxicated youths raising hell and finally, the sad wake such kind of attitude leads to.
Haven’t read Trouble Boys and won’t until I first get to Little Richard’s and Keith Richardses.

Now, where were we...

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#18
Little Mascara
from Tim (1985)
Score: 405
Votes: 26 (0)
Youtube: audio track

The guitars are so choice.

I still think a lot about Paul in “Trouble Boys” and idk, just the way undiagnosed depression can really fuck with a person & their relationships etc

also Bob’s whole story in the book is brutal too

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, October 13, 2020 1:33 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Obv a good deal younger than them but still old enough to have grown up in the same MN culture I can't really express the total inability to talk about ones feeling were instilled in us, alongside a drinking culture that basically made that the center of your whole social life from 13/14 on

And I'm still not 100% over those things

xpost shades of my own upbringing in rural smalltown Oz, that deeply entrenched “never talk about it” + lots of booze/drug problems makes for rough times

though MN obv has it in a much deeper way, like a much heavier unspoken vein of sheer ~sadness~. extreme weather isolation obv adds its own layer of complexity w Scandi roots etc

anyway i have veered way off track

Little Mascara is my first top ten track to place (plus I had Kids Don’t Follow at #11). Another really empathetic song - I have no desire to read Trouble Boys as I feel like it might kill my fandom dead.

I now see rattle posted the OGWT footage just an hour ago, lol

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#17
Kiss Me on the Bus
from Tim (1985)
Score: 426
Votes: 24 (0)
Youtube: audio track
Youtube: Old Grey Whistle Test appearance

It may have killed my fandom for a while but I eventually got better.

Don’t think it’s totally off track, VG. That was one of the major themes of the book, I think.

XPs obv

In college I thought "on the bus" was a shrewd pun (to buss = to kiss).

Right! Or it could be this

LOL

YES! My #5

Definitely a v important subgenre Paul-wants-to-be-my-boyfriend song

he has the best singing voice for longing, both upbeat and ballad-slow

i love Paul’s hair in that OgWT clip

sorry i’ll stop Pauling

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#16
I'll Be You
from Don't Tell a Soul (1989)
Score: 443
Votes: 27 (0)
Youtube: original promo video
Youtube: audio track (Chris Wallace mix)

live versions of IBU rip so hard

Tom Petty liked it so much he stole a line.

"Little Mascara" I had at #20 but unfortunately "Kiss Me on the Bus" didn't get to park inside the Lifehouse. "I'll Be You" dropped out early of the very tight Game of Life race that was DTaS picks.

Sometimes I think this is the best song Westerberg ever wrote, and it works despite the Don’t Tell A Soul sheen. Deserved to be in the top ten IMO.

Another example of him holding off on the chorus until the almost last possible moment.

It's also become quite the CVS Jam.

"Kiss Me On the Bus" is too low for the most romantic song ever written about mass transit

So those Tim cuts are reminding me of the transitional nature of that album. Although it was on a new label, it was still recorded in Minneapolis, at the same studio where "Surfin' Bird" and "Liar, Liar" had been recorded, I, think, but Paul had banned Peter Jesperson from the studio. Bob was still around, but he was still working his day job as a chef at Mama Rosa's while the rest of the band was laying down the backing tracks.

Yeah, and Tommy Ramone set aside a day for him to come in and improvise solos which were edited into different songs.

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#15
Within Your Reach
from Hootenanny (1983)
Score: 448
Votes: 25 (0)
Youtube: audio track

Had no idea so many of y'all were going to vote for this one. Pleasantly surprised.

what's not to like: synths, drum machine, punctuative guitars!

I had 'Kiss Me On The Bus' top 10 as well, love Bob's solo on this. Man they are hammered on SNL.

Within Your Reach was my #8

love love love

Westerberg played the whole thing by himself IIRC. I don’t really enjoy Hootenanny as a whole but the two standout tracks are among the group’s very best.

I had it at #18, pretty close to the consensus.

IN YO

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^Here comes a regular.

re: Hootenanny & Tim, one thing suspected, but made explicit in Trouble Boys was the transition of the Replacements from Bob's band to Paul's band. the tough part of the read was that it was clear that part of that transition involved making Bob the scapegoat. the wheels were bound to come off at some point, but heartbreaking nevertheless.

Yes. Also they all had their, um, untreated, problems but Bob's were by far the most severe.

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#14
Sixteen Blue
from Let It Be (1984)
Score: 522
Votes: 31 (0)
Youtube: audio track

The way he lets the last word in "Now you're wondering to yourself/That you might be gay" drop in a frightened whisper kills me. Stinson's last solo exteriorizes the kid's inner torment.

I never connected with this one as much as the other serious tracks on Let It Be. Always felt a little ponderous to me. Also realised last night that it was going to make the top twenty at the expense of Gary’s Got a Boner.

Alfred otm.

I had it at #2.

I always say that it was something to hear "Sixteen Blue" for the first time when I was actually 16. Talk about feeling seen. Gorgeous song, beautiful guitar solo, top 10 for me.

I never connected with this one as much as the other serious tracks on Let It Be. Always felt a little ponderous to me. Also realised last night that it was going to make the top twenty at the expense of Gary’s Got a Boner.

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Tom Petty liked it so much he stole a line.

i have no issue with the long tradition of songwriters steeling lines from each other, but steeling a joke is a little more unseemly, and this was pretty close to that.