without to get all imago here buy g4 really isn't long enough
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 9 October 2020 13:05 (four years ago) link
si00 makes me want to watch sealab
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 9 October 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link
does that mean I'm listening to the right leak
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 9 October 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link
I can't believe people still make fake leaks
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 9 October 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link
I think it's nice
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
anyway whatever I'm listening to it rules, this really does have a Tomorrow's Harvest vibe. this is probably as accessible a record as they are capable of making right now
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link
i know it's corny but i would buy a
Rob&Sean&Max/MSP
t-shirt
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link
gah gr4 just came on again ;_;
Get that shit printed up!
― J. Sam, Friday, 9 October 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link
One of the coolest things about Autechre is their obvious aversion to anything remotely saccharine-sounding. Even on Sign--their most melodic, conventionally beautiful album in a decade--the tonality remains in this sort of cold, austere grey zone. Like, I know it's theoretically more complicated than this, but they tend to go with some variation of minor or pentatonic or atonal, but NEVER straight major-key. Maybe Corc from LP5 has the most major-key feel to it, but I think that's still mostly pentatonic. Recury from Chiastic Slide also comes to mind, but that was a long time ago...
― J. Sam, Friday, 9 October 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link
i think one of the keys to understanding autechre is that they're working with music as a language, and what they really like to do is tinker with the language in a way that shows both the beauty of it holding together and the overwhelming ecstasy of it exploding or falling apart into unpredictable, unstable shades of meaning. i feel like they focused heavily on rhythm as a language in the 2010s but the last decade has been about melody and harmony as a language that they've been poking holes in and reshaping into something that is their own invention. and this record is like the most graceful statement of that process so far.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link
err "rhythm as a language in the 2000s"
these are great posts but Whiney is going to have a field day with this thread
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 9 October 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link
autechre are more than a band, they are light itself
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 9 October 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link
i keep replaying "m4 lema" because it really is the perfect bridge from the nts stuff to this record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 October 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link
hm wow I'm halfway through listening to this and it totally rules
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 9 October 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link
I've just got the 675 mb download of this and it's not bad!
― calzino, Friday, 9 October 2020 20:55 (four years ago) link
i know it's corny but i would buy aRob&Sean&Max/MSPt-shirt― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:59 (seven hours ago) link
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 9 October 2020 14:59 (seven hours ago) link
For Christmas, for me plsplsplsplspls
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Friday, 9 October 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link
I don't like the official SIGN shirt, so yes please.
― lukas, Friday, 9 October 2020 22:31 (four years ago) link
gr4 is definitely my favourite - like a string quartet!otm. The second half of gr4 in particular destroys me. You just know they were like "ok this is too beautiful, we can't allow it to go on a moment longer"
― J. Sam, Saturday, 10 October 2020 14:40 (four years ago) link
What I've always loved about the group is sort of their way of recontextualizing themselves in real time, just by tweaking a rhythm, or introducing a melody when you least expect it, or where you at least expect it. It's partly about language, but also about how that language mutates and changes the more times you translate it. Lost in translation so many times that eventually something is found in translation.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 October 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link
I'm the guy that sees the patterns and I feel like you're reaching here
― pareidolia, Saturday, 10 October 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
I'm sure the patterns are there are if you are detail oriented, but I'm not, so I'm happy to luxuriate in being disoriented.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link
the kind of pompous commentary that really makes me want to listen to more autechre
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link
Pompous?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:32 (four years ago) link
yall need to chill. maybe listen to some nice beats and interestin melodic ambient tracks. the new autechre album for instance!
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link
I mean, almost from the start one of the things I've loved most about Autechre is that no matter how much I've picked up about how they make their music, they've remained utterly, almost uniquely foreign to me. I don't think that reaction makes me "pompous," it's just me appreciating them in a way I appreciate few other acts.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
another thing some of you should probably do is try listening to musique concrete or read up on like pauline oliveros and deep listening, expand your electronic music horizons a bit and challenge yourselves before asserting that autechre are "taking the piss" or being completely foreign/alien or whatever. like maybe do some homework first idk.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link
make yourself sit and listen to something challenging that doesn't pander to you and do nothing else while you're listening.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link
Wait, there is other electronic music?!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
yes. and other things besides compulsively posting everything that occurs to you on a message board.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 10 October 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link
autechre good, beat go squelch and snap
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 10 October 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link
I love this entire record but the final third is everything I wanted from post-NTS Autechre
"gr4" being barely over three minutes almost feels like sadistic trolling though
Not to incur anyone's wrath but I think I feel what Josh is saying upthread on "esc desc," which to me sounds like a very simple and beautiful melody that's been broken into random and different-sized pieces, which forces your ears to try and reassemble them somehow
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 10 October 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link
Where are y'all listening to it at this point?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 10 October 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link
I think if you ordered the album on the Warp site you got an instant download of the whole album (at least that's what I read upthread)
If you didn't order it (you should) or didn't order it from Warp, a person I know says it can be found on s**ls**k amidst the fakes if you know what you are looking for
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 11 October 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
I ordered it on the Warp site but the download link didn’t work - I think making it available early was inadvertent.
― Tim F, Sunday, 11 October 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link
They've done something similar before.
I ordered my CD from boomkat along with some other stuff - it was a penny cheaper, but no download for me.
― koogs, Sunday, 11 October 2020 01:03 (four years ago) link
Even if your downloads show “0/11 available” or whatever you can try clicking the link, that was the case for me and the FLACs came through immediately. Warp store, 2xLP preorder.
― assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 11 October 2020 05:19 (four years ago) link
i think one of the keys to understanding autechre is that they're working with music as a language, and what they really like to do is tinker with the language in a way that shows both the beauty of it holding together and the overwhelming ecstasy of it exploding or falling apart into unpredictable, unstable shades of meaning. i feel like they focused heavily on rhythm as a language in the 2000s but the last decade has been about melody and harmony as a language that they've been poking holes in and reshaping into something that is their own invention. and this record is like the most graceful statement of that process so far.― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map)
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map)
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Monday, 12 October 2020 06:13 (four years ago) link
yeah a deeply insightful post mapThere's lots to engage with on SIGN but I'm a little perturbed by the clear callouts to previous work, makes me worry they are planning to hang up their boots. I'm about the same age and feel like I am completely done with my passion for my career, I wonder if it feels fresh for them still.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 12 October 2020 06:30 (four years ago) link
i'm surprised to read upthread that this is new material and not an assemblage of cuts that just happen to fit together stylistically, which is how I originally read it: Sean and Rob thinking "2020 is hell, let's hit em with some mood music"
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Monday, 12 October 2020 09:51 (four years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/s0fLC1mOnm— Good Steely Dan Takes (@baddantakes) October 10, 2020
^^ @AutechreComment has to be a Whiney account.
― Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 October 2020 10:53 (four years ago) link
What a fantastic album
― Tim F, Monday, 12 October 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link
:) :)
you guys are nice. sorry i was grumpy on saturday.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 12 October 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link
Your order has been dispatched.
― Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 07:18 (four years ago) link
Loving some sounds & moments on this, it hasn't come together as an album for me yet though. Only listening once a day, chances of getting some blissed out headphones time are slim.
Never thought I'd say something like this but if anyone's missing their harder meaty beaty stuff, the new Rian Treanor album File Under UK Metaplasm is excellent - slightly more dancefloor adjacent than e.g. NTS but by no means four to the floor.
― neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 09:59 (four years ago) link
NTS Sessions was a pretty hard act to follow, so I guess it was kind of inevitable that this would be a little underwhelming. Some of their stuff takes a (long) time to click with me, admittedly, even if I always appreciate it on first listen.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link
I can't remember the last time an Ae album has clicked with me so quickly and top to bottom. Maybe LP5? Everything since has taken either months or years (Confield, Draft, Untilted), or merely parts of it clicked and I basically ignored the rest (Quaristice, Oversteps) or was so damn long I was able to piece together cohesive track listings that essentially mimicked a stellar Ae album experience from top to bottom (Exai, Elseq, NTS).
More interestingly for me, SIGN has a distinctive emotional character I've not really experienced in an Ae album since the 90's, and I feel it's largely due to the very straight forward chord progressions and consonance that is present on nearly the entire record. A couple tracks that sounded a bit thin on first listen (F7, esc desc, th red a) are slowly sounding richer and more layered to me on subsequent plays, especially th red a.
But one thing that is fascinating about these guys - no matter what they do, their fan base is so diverse in their expectations and tastes that any record Ae ever release will have them divided in some way
― octobeard, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link
I agree with your characterization of this record (except that "esc desc" was an immediate favorite for me!). It's probably the most consistent sounding Ae since, hell, I don't even know. Oversteps? Quaristice? The latter is the only Ae album I don't love but I can't deny its thematic consistency. NTS is still and will always likely be my favorite, but this one is already creeping close to the top 4.
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link