I mean, they may have been in Windsor, but I'd bet they thought they were in Detroit.
― pplains, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link
That concert review by albini is priceless. Apparently, even though he was "editorials editor", he still could've used a good proof reader.
― enochroot, Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link
Best Van Halen song is Little Dreamer. I will also accept Janies Cryin.i’ll take my answer off the air
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link
Xxxxxp idk, I think 68pongto makes a convincing case.Thanks for digging that up, it's really something
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link
This is my favorite version of unchained.https://youtu.be/Cn8APTMyKsg
When I opened the video there was a survey asking "which of the following hair care brands do you have a positive opinion of?"
totally thought it said "hair bands"
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link
Wasn't the Albini review in his high school's paper? He would have been 17 in 79.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link
Oh I see Josh mentioned that. I had seen it elsewhere.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link
I would probably go:
Dance the Night AwayEverybody Wants Some!!UnchainedAin't Talkin' 'Bout LoveJainie's Cryin'
― Quiet Storm Thorgerson (PBKR), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link
"Unchained" was my #1 in the Van Halen poll. Just sick timing in that groove.
― Josefa, Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link
I wonder if the super bright, saturated Big Black guitar tone was Van Halen-influenced.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link
my favorite van halen song is "girl gone bad," that was my no. 1, but my ballot was absolute nonsense lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link
I have re-fallen in love with Top Jimmy
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:16 (three years ago) link
1984 best album ever
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link
the best van halen song is without a doubt 'aint talkin bout love'
i'm sorry this isn't even questionable
this may be as fervent as i've ever been on ILM!
i mean the fuckin minutemen covered it!
― mookieproof, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link
Idk what my favorite song is but 1984 is def my favorite vh album Girl gone bad is an excellent choice. Hot for teacher might be the most advanced boogie shuffle thingy I've heard.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
The Minutemen and Van Halen are non-overlapping magisteria in my book
― Josefa, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link
“panama” is forever my favorite, but haven’t seen people mention “light up the sky” yet, that one slays
― i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link
At the hight of my obsession (age 9) I probably would have picked ain't talkin bout love or running with the devil.
However they are objectively wrong picks and I would now refuse to concede that a song without a real guitar solo can possibly be the best van halen song.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link
you ppl know nothing of the brown sound!!1!1!!1!
― mookieproof, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link
i think the first album is my favorite, but 1984 is a verrrry close second.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link
last night i was standing in the living room grinning to myself like, how great do they sound with the stereo turned all the way up
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
model citizen! zero discipline!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link
Xxp heh the first one is my second fave! Lol mookieThe brown sound is indeed dear to me but boogie wants advancement.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link
Van Halen are like Devo - a long illustrious career but their 1978 debut album on Warner Bros. is their best work
― Josefa, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:41 (three years ago) link
Well, it might be fair to say they never bettered it, necessarily, though 1984 probably ties it at least.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link
What’s ppls favorite of the albums that come between those two
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link
Fair Warning, no contest
― Josefa, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link
Fair Warning is ultra sick
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link
Yes, fair warning.
Xxp What it comes down to for me is debut retains too many elements of 70's dinosaur rock, 1984 is more squarely in their own idiom (apart from the ac/dc ripoff song which is still rad) , has their most advanced songwriting, is leaner and meaner without all the plate reverb.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link
The drier sound is so much more in your face
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link
has anyone seen Junior's grades?
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link
This name, The Broken Combs, it kept striking me as ...twee? And then given the time and place I realized in was a reference to, gasp, LONG HAIR.
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link
i don't feel tardy
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link
I listen to Fair Warning a ton. It's awesome. Though it and Women and Children First epitomize the "brown sound." They're badass, but also sort of ugly at the same time.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link
I couldn't make sense of that, because they're so fully a 80s band for me, even if like the Cure or Cars they broke just before. They seem so distant from an era where long hair was a provocation in and of itself.
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link
Women & Children my fave of the betweeners
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link
i brought my PENCIL
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:20 (three years ago) link
I've brought this up before but why does he say "I think the clock is slow" then "I don't feel tardy" because if the clock was slow he'd be even more tardy
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link
xxxp They had beautiful hair.
― Deflatormouse, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link
i thought that was his way of saying he couldn't maintain an erection
I just assume all of Roth's lyrics are metaphors for dicks tho
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link
how rude
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link
debating when I finally wanna do my run of Roth-era Van Halen this week.....
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link
I did like too that for a new practicing guitarist, he had rhythm parts I could play that weren't boring but helped me stretch a bit
(I think a lot of my earliest learned riffs were from Van Halen's first four lol)
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link
So on the question about how VH could have come up with 1984...
Diver Down was probably the end of the line for a draining cycle of touring/recording/touring over 5 straight years, as others have pointed out upthread. But it was also their pop breakthrough, thanks to those two hit cover tunes. And the Diver Down tour ended early in ‘83, almost a year before 1984 was released. They only played 18 concerts that whole year, down from more than 80 a year every year from 78-82. So for the first time in their career they had a long while, like 9 months, to knock a new batch of tunes into Also, 1983 was the year pop metal exploded - between Metal Health and Pyromania, the latter of which at least could never have existed without their influence, they must have felt both energized and like they had something to prove. No wonder the next record was a coup. Eddie was all of 28 years old when they finished it.
― thewufs, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:27 (three years ago) link
because if the clock was slow he'd be even more tardy
The tardy joke is an immature r-word retort.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link
didn't the band want to fight EVH on recording "Jump"?
― LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link
When I was reading about it today it looks like the keyboard riff stretched back a couple of years, but they just didn't quite know what to do with it.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
On wiki:
The synth line was written around 1981 by Eddie Van Halen but it was refused by the other members of the band. In 1983, producer Ted Templeman asked Roth to take a listen to the unused song idea. Riding around in the back of his 1951 Mercury, with band roadie Larry Hostler driving, Roth listened repeatedly to the tune. To come up with a lyric for it, he remembered seeing a television news report the night before about a man who was threatening to commit suicide by jumping off a high building. Roth thought that one of the onlookers of such a scene would probably shout "go ahead and jump". Roth bounced this suggestion off Hostler who agreed it was good. Instead of being about a threatened suicide, the words were written as an invitation to love. Roth later told Musician magazine that Hostler was "probably the most responsible for how it came out.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link
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i know this is true yet i choose not to believe it
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 8 October 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link