I like Thundercat, but there's a samey-ness to a lot of his music, as well as Flying Lotus tracks where he's featured, that causes me to tune out after a little while.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link
Scritti Politti. On paper there's a lot to draw me to them - Marxist intellectuals who slid from post-punk to pop? What's not to like? But whenever I try to listen to them, I just... don't enjoy it at all.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
yeah wish i liked them more than i do
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
lol, just put Cupid & Psyche in my sell pile yesterday
― sleeve, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link
"Skank Bloc Bologna" still rules, though, it's on my Wanna Buy A Bridge comp LP and is probably all I need
I'm glad it's not just me. I often feel like I'm somehow deficient for not getting it, but they really don't grab me at all.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
i only have Songs to Remember, and about once a year i give Cupid & Psyche a digital spin, but i also have completely failed to get into scritti politti
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link
I love Green Gartside on that Eurythmics song! "Wrap It Up"? His voice sounds like the way velvet looks
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
The pop stuff is a bit saccharine. I have to be in the mood. But Skank Bloc is so great
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:26 (three years ago) link
In a similar vein (is it acceptable for me to say it?), Prince’s Sign of the Times: the sounds that he uses and that digital bass motif, they all just sound real displeasing to my ears. Also, his vocal performance fails to convince me that he truly cares about the things described in the lyrics. In fact, I’ve tried 3 times to listen to that supposedly universally loved stone cold classic but I’ve never made it all the way through. For the record, I own Parade and think it’s great, a lot of fun, his best album by far in my own unpopular opinion.
― rattle, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
oh man I love green’s voice and lyrics so much. Total hero. Took a while for me, though.
― brimstead, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
cupid & psyche is just a staggering achievement to me, exciting and blinding every time i listen to it, was a huge 420 unlock for me last year.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
lol OK OK I'll try again
― sleeve, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
there might be something to the 420 idea
wait a second, i didn't try that last bit. i feel like an unattempted unlock is warranted before giving up
xp haha, exactly
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
it's a new option in the toolbelt
The track 'PAs' was my way into early Scritti stuff, such a lovely vocal melody welded to itchy, badly recorded craziness.
― Maresn3st, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
derrida is a much more salient reference point re the borderline-religious subterfuge in his lyrics than marxism imo.
c&p made me very afraid there for a while with the synth sound and all but my god the programming is just so idiosyncratic yet perfectly pop it can bring me to tears.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:44 (three years ago) link
Cupid and Psyche is more of a champagne album“the sweetest girl” otoh...
― brimstead, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
oh didn’t see your post map, didn’t mean to neg your 420 unlock!
― brimstead, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
xp actually I have that 12" as well and am keeping it, forgot abt that one but it's great
― sleeve, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
it's kind of this essay on why and how commercial pop can be transformative. it's brainy but also surprisingly funny and humble. also the ranking ann version of "flesh and blood" is like super dope and positive. lol.
xp no worries haha
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
lol, I don't do 420 listens b/c I mostly have a bad paranoid time rather than a fun chill time, but I could definitely see it working.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
What's the 420 thing?
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
w33d
― sleeve, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
420-enhanced listening can definitely be key in “getting” this or that band. For instance, Grafeful Dead whilst high I was able to find a way in by focusing on Lesh’s basslines. Also, never was able to get into reggae before I started partaking of the herb.
― rattle, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link
Aha, of course. Getting st0ned and listening to music should be available on prescription.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link
the 420 unlock is a new discovery in the growing field of pseudopharmamusicology. early evidence indicates that there are certain recordings that, to a degree that surpasses even the expected enhancement while smoking, can be "420 unlocked"
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
pretty much the entirety of reelin' in the years is like that for me. suddenly i felt "dirty work" more intensely and personally than ever before
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
lol, I don't do 420 listens b/c I mostly have a bad paranoid time rather than a fun chill time, but I could definitely see it working.― emil.y, Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:52 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
Glad it’s not just me. Surely there’s an ILX support group thread for people who like the idea of weed but are incapable of not going from zero to dark whenever they smoke it. I do love how music sounds on weed and I seriously envy people who can be blazed all the time while avoiding gazing into the dark abyss of their soul but I inevitably start hearing weird shit in the music (even instrumental music) and having bad thoughts, no matter what strain I smoke. I keep trying indica dominants because I seek couch lock without the accompanying psychedelic nightmare, but after even one normal hit I almost always freak out.
I don't get Scritti Politti either fwiw
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link
I’m 100% with you and emil.y. Every single one of my attempts at enjoying weed was an anxiety-ridden disaster, like downing a dozen ristrettos in 30 seconds.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
Also, I’ve never heard Scritti Politti and I’m not sure I want to.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
Surely there’s an ILX support group thread for people who like the idea of weed but are incapable of not going from zero to dark whenever they smoke it.
it depends on where you live and the legal status, but i would strongly recommend trying out the many varieties of tablets that are available. you can get them in little 2.5g doses of THC. personally i don't even detect a difference, due to my vast experience in trying to unlock things. but my partner will take one and feel fantastic. it's basically a way to get a reliable measured dose so you know how much feels good for you. you can also get a version of the same tablet that has 2.5g cbd as well. again, i don't notice cbd because i have leveled up too far, but many people love it
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link
Here’s some that I find make mostly unpleasant music to my ears no matter how much I try to get them:
Run the JewelsNeutral Milk Hotel // Jeff MangumFlumeJames BlakeArcaDeath GripsTyler, the creator
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
Big Thief. I don't see the appeal at all. In fact I think they are astoundingly awful. Yet I still try to listen to them every six months to see if my taste has changed.
― akm, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link
I’d be a fan if it weren’t for her amateurish singing. Faith in one’s abilities helps, but doesn’t quite cut it.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
In a similar vein (is it acceptable for me to say it?), Prince’s Sign of the Times: the sounds that he uses and that digital bass motif, they all just sound real displeasing to my ears. Also, his vocal performance fails to convince me that he truly cares about the things described in the lyrics. In fact, I’ve tried 3 times to listen to that supposedly universally loved stone cold classic but I’ve never made it all the way through. For the record, I own Parade and think it’s great, a lot of fun, his best album by far in my own unpopular opinion.― rattle, Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:33 AM
― rattle, Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:33 AM
i don't think i've ever disagreed (wtf? sign o the times is awesome!) and agreed (parade kicks fucking ass and is also probably my favorite p album) with a single post so vehemently and completely all at once.
i don't know you rattle, but i'm keeping an eye on you.
also, xp re: scritti polittithere's a very strong cupid and psyche fanbase here and that prompted me to go and try to reassess that one and. . . yeah, nah. i guess i still don't get it because it sounds like extremely overproduced schlock.
as for my contribution to this revive, i'm going to mention something timely —and i may have talked about this on here in the past— the replacements. never understood the appeal whatsoever and when i read glowing reviews of them in the past, it seemed like the reviewer was listening to something completely different than what i was hearing on the record. i think what's most puzzling is that the music isn't really what i would consider "bad"; it's just so. . . bland. there's nothing remarkable about it at all. idgi.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link
Stink is my fave Replacements fwiw, not so keen on everything afterwards
― sleeve, Tuesday, 6 October 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
100%. You want a smart, witty "heartland" rock band that actually, you know, rocks? Try the Georgia Satellites.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
pleased to meet meh rocks
― brimstead, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link
PTTM has a couple of good songs, but overall the Replacements were (and remain, though it's a generational thing - as with REM, their influence, and profile among younger listeners, is effectively nil) one of the most bafflingly overpraised bands of their era.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link
I’ve never been able to get into them, but most ‘80s “college rock” leaves me cold (Hüsker Dü, Minutemen, etc.). R.E.M. are the big exception.
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link
I don’t get most 80s ‘college rock’ either but I do like both R.E.M. and The Replacements. The latter I only discovered last year because I’d wrongly assumed I wouldn’t care for them at all.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link
The Replacements have that intimidating fan-related zealotry thing going on - an initiate's reverence and ardour that means the music can only really be disappointing at first reception. For suggestible me, anyway. I got into Let it Be a little over lockdown but I still have a residual 'why don't I feel like that?' response to them.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 08:27 (three years ago) link
little 2.5g doses of THC. personally i don't even detect a difference
Not to sound like a lightweight but I suspect that should be mg :-)
― Kieran Arse (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 08:45 (three years ago) link
The fact that the Replacements have an oral history book AND a documentary full of people talking about how they changed their life....yes, way to go in putting people off this band for life
The most “just listen to the albums and forget all the other bullshit” band ever
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link
I would love for this topic to have its own thread, so I made one:
Hate The Drug / Love The Music
― Branwell with an N, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:34 (three years ago) link
― I Hate the Aedes (morrisp), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 bookmarkflaglink
I separate SST to other US "college rock" in my head. Has its own (for better or worse) sound.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link
Chinaski, the reason you don’t feel *that way* now when listening to LIB is likely down to context. In a sense the ‘Mats were an antidote to a situation that was specific to alienated, disaffected youth of the mid-80’s, namely Reaganism. Hyper-success orientation, “cofee generation” propaganda and a lot of super-shiny, perfect music such as Madonna, “Material Girl” being imposed on you by corporate radio of the day. So in this way, it makes sense that the youth (or adults) of 2020 are not relating to LIB in the same way as the youth of the 80’s did.
― rattle, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link