"Hot Thing" is in my SOTT Top 5, so funky, that "when you smile" part, I love it
― sleeve, Monday, 28 September 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link
We should poll SOTT for the song we'd leave out.
Me? It's "It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night"
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link
I don't worship "Adore" like my fellow Prince-ologists, but it's a jam.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
Yeah, ditch "It's Gonna Be a Beautiful Night."
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
Thirded.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link
And fourthed, I guess!
I'd cut "It" and "Starfish and Coffee." And I'd put "Adore" before "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" and end the album with "The Cross."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
"The Cross" would be a good closer.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link
I usually skip “The Cross” and “I Could Never...”
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link
What?!? Why you wanna treat SotT so bad, CJV?
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link
I'll always ditch 'Play in the Sunshine'. 'Beautiful Night' is one of my most-listened SotT tracks.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 28 September 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link
“hot thing” was always the weak link for me, sorry. everything else is the bomb. in the context of an epic double album closer “it’s gonna be a beautiful night” works really well... but putting “adore” on right after is kinda too much, it needs something less completely amazing and perfect to end on lol, like a 2 minute ditty with just prince and an electric guitar.
― brimstead, Monday, 28 September 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link
I heard the next expansion is D&P
― and i can almost smell your PG Tips (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, September 29, 2020 1:56 AM (three hours ago)
lol ugh
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 29, 2020 1:57 AM
Definitely a good commercial idea to start spreading the reissues away from the 1980s, so that the decade doesn't get tapped out straight away. And D&P has the hook of being the first album by a new band, was loaded with big international hits*, & has loads of stuff shelf-ready to fill up an expanded edition before they even go digging in the vault. The Gett Off and Cream singles were each getting on for an hour long! * he toured Australia for the first time on this album, which probably contributed to this, but he basically seemed to be in the charts constantly from Batman through 1994 - Come went to #2!
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 28 September 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link
I can hear in "Crucial" the first ominous, grueling stirrings of the turgid power balladry of the early '90s
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link
lol
― sleeve, Monday, 28 September 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
Plz let there not be a disc dedicated to gett off and dream remixes. Please.
However plz let there be a disc including daddy pop and live 4 love without Tony m. Plz. I like outtakes schoolyard and grandcprogeession too.
Plz also not let the set include a DVD of the gett off bonus videos.
― candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link
*cream
― candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
Now that they've gone huge with sott u hope they dont go so big on every release
The 7-Plated Gold CD Experience
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 September 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link
The drumapella version of Big Tall Wall is real good
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 28 September 2020 21:02 (four years ago) link
"It" would be a phenomenal B side but it's tiresome in the middle of an album. Likewise I love "Beautiful Night" but it's not needed here. But "Starfish and Coffee" is one of the core (the heart) tracks defining SotT for me.
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 28 September 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link
― Tuomas, Monday, 28 September 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link
Most of it's on the box - for my compiled version I nicked the full-length Feel U Up ("Long Stroke") from the Partyman single, the original Good Love from Bright Lights, Big City OST, Rockhard In A Funky Place from The Black Album, and used the full-length ("Extended," but actually the original) Shockadelica.
― Tuomas, Monday, 28 September 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, September 28, 2020 2:02 PM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
wanted to confirm i came around to this version of "big tall wall." this one was also probably the most dramatic difference wrt the bootleg version i've been familiar with for years sounding like total garbage
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 28 September 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
just dropping in to say "Housequake" is the platonic ideal of all music
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 28 September 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
― Tuomas, Monday, 28 September 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link
"Scarlet Pussy" is also a Camille tune, no? Or at least it has the voice. IMO it's the best among the chipmunk songs, alongside "If I Was Your Girlfriend ".
― assert (MatthewK), Monday, 28 September 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link
I definitely wish there were smaller and cheaper editions that did what the two-disc Purple Rain pack did: only include the remastered album and previously unreleased songs, not live shows and 7" versions and alternate takes, as I don't really care about those, and it sucks to pay 150 euros just to get the three discs of unreleased songs (plus the couple of 12" mixes that weren't available on CD before).
― Tuomas, Monday, September
I can do without a whole CD of single mixes.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
Love left loveright was good IIRC. Totally forgot about violet the organ grinder.
I like d&p overall tbh so would be interested to see what they do with its esp as it's an album that fans have some issues with.
I did get the sott SDE bit tempted just to burn the discs and sell it. I hate huge packages for albums like this, and the book just seems massively padded out, or at least not that essential to me.
― candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link
"Scarlet Pussy" is also a Camille tune, no?
As Matthew says, it's by Camille, but was recorded more than a year after the Camille album was cancelled.
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 28 September 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link
Any idea why 1999 and SOTT got expanded vinyl versions of the box sets but Purple Rain didn't? Or did I just miss that?
― Position Position, Monday, 28 September 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link
I think pr was overseen by prince but the last two were estate managed releases.
I'm sure they will do a humongous pr deluxe edition in a few years.
I really like Wally. It might be a tad overblown but you can hear a certain nakedness in that vocal. It's a bit like a song in a musical after a character has had a breakup.
― candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link
I can do without a whole CD of single mixes.All but a few aren't even new mixes, just worthless "edits" made for top 40 radio. Only "Little Red Corvette" and "Kiss" have "single versions" deserving of inclusion in these sets because it's the only way to get the whole song complete without the respective crossfade or segue edit.
Even better, I wish they'd release a complete B-sides and 12" mix collection and have them all in one place rather than separated out like this. It would be much more listenable and consumer-friendly. They did an incomplete, half-assed job of both before, but at least it shows they're open to the idea.
― birdistheword, Monday, 28 September 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link
'Housequake' my ideal too, I remember every single second of the first time I heard it -- cassette in a car, and thirty seconds after 'shut up already' my friend said 'bet you anything he doesn't even put a chorus on this one, we're already all in'
listening to the three discs, and how many of his 12" versions only really catch fire five minutes in, I am newly sympathetic to how difficult it must have been to sequence albums. it's a normal thing that your favorite songs, the ones that make you think you have a guaranteed strong album, have the tendency to not play well with others once you start trying to find that 45-60 minute flow (I have done the mind game of trying to figure out where 'Moonbeam Levels' or 'In A Large Room' would fit anywhere within 1982-1988 and they just don't, those songs just had to wait to move out of the orphanage). but over the last three years of endless youtube recommendations of two hour Revolution rehearsals where the peak moments have almost nothing to do with song structure, things that defy editing. the longer mixes hinted at the music you couldn't get on the albums, as did the disjuncts on SOTT which were so crazy my own cassette of SOTT put my favorite songs on one side and the ones I knew would be growers on the others, and it was still the exact same statement
I get the impression effort went in this time with this box to give Vault disc 1 at least a little bit of flow. Then the alt versions overflow and you just have to start swimming. I so can not afford this at this desperate moment in time and I'd rip these discs faster than a Roland Kayn box set (ok, it'd take exactly half the time) but... nope, this all goes beyond what albums do
― Milton Parker, Monday, 28 September 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
which is why I'm sentimental about Black Album. about thirty seconds into listening, knowing 'ok here we go, a whole album of songs without choruses', all that stuff he's forced to edit out when making pop albums that contain singles, with the totally clear subtext that he's mostly conning Warner into giving him a free album cycle that'd go direct to fans minus the blathering media cycle
presentation was impromptu enough that fans sort of knew what to expect before they heard it, even if they didn't expect Bob
― Milton Parker, Monday, 28 September 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link
"This a business... you ain't too far gone to see that yet"
― candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 22:41 (four years ago) link
"effort went in this time with this box to give Vault disc 1 at least a little bit of flow."
Pretty sure they're just in order of recording date. They fucked up in not including we can funk or cant stop this feeling I got from 1986.
― candyman, Monday, 28 September 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link
ha! y'know sometimes you try chronological order and there's yr flow right there
― Milton Parker, Monday, 28 September 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link
the SOTT stream on Saturday (?) was really good
"LATE NIGHT PURPLE FAMILY!"
― flappy bird, Monday, 28 September 2020 23:06 (four years ago) link
Shut up.
Already.
Damn.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link
Everyone goes on about the sheer amount of music he produced but when did he get time to write all those lyrics as well...and he had to have sexy time too...
― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Monday, 28 September 2020 23:22 (four years ago) link
Shut up. Already.Damn.
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 00:26 (four years ago) link
Could easily imagine Billy Corgan trying to make SP cover “Adonis and Bathsheba” during the MCIS sessions.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 00:49 (four years ago) link
sorry guys, the alternatives to obsessing about this box right now are grim
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 01:00 (four years ago) link
They fucked up in not including we can funk or cant stop this feeling I got from 1986.
dare say this is less a massive unthinking error than a deliberate decision to include the abandoned 1986 versions on an expanded Graffiti Bridge, for handy comparison to the final releases, since they already put the earlier originals of each on other deluxe editions
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 04:16 (four years ago) link
Random thoughts on the DVD Weird but good to finally see this tour outside of the filmPrince is clearly having a ball Seeing miles there is just great, though why prince gets the band to cut in when miles is just settling in i am unsure. He could have let him really take it somewhere.This band are/were shit hot (when they cover JB, it's funky AF)I dont really like how much prince used drum machines live, you have sheila e there for u got the look and you're only putting her on percussion? Wtf. Doesnt help that on this DVD and the utrecht show, its not exactly mixed very well. You can see why prince redid a lot for the movie - it sounds a 100 times better.Tbh the sound on various vault tracks here and the live show (which isnt slow to me but it does sound a bit thin and lacking in body) is disappointing.
― candyman, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 09:01 (four years ago) link
This DVD is the highlight of the set. i cant really any great difference innthe remaster ahd the original album apart from.it being louder.
― candyman, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 09:03 (four years ago) link
Also, if the estate ever commission a covers album, I want to hear Springsteen do ICNTTPOYM or holy river.
― candyman, Wednesday, 30 September 2020 09:04 (four years ago) link
you have sheila e there for u got the look and you're only putting her on percussion?
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 09:08 (four years ago) link