Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

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I stood Jarvis Cocker up once. I can't actually remember why.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you not especially like Pulp either?

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's start a separate thread, "Real-Life Encounters With ILX Poll Finalists"

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Well the guy's idea of a pick-up line is "Do you remember the first time?" and "I want to give you babies." I can see why many would shirk.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

those lines would work on indie babes and you know it

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Chesney Hawks likely to show up? I once stood next to Chesney Hawks at a urinal. I've been kicking myself ever since for not taking a peek.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

no, I don't like common people.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

those lines would work on indie babes and you know it

sigh. i know.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe "Return of the Mack" will show up in the top twenty! I'm hopeful.

I definitely regret voting for "Common People" (although it was around 25 or so if I remember correctly) but I had no idea this poll would end with a giant sick brit-pop lovefest/orgy.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Also fuck paranoid android, I like OK Computer OK but that is like my least favorite song on it, what a boring prog-dirge. I can't believe how everyone wets their pants over "ooh it has different movements" boring boring all kinds of boring.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's start a separate thread, "Real-Life Encounters With ILX Poll Finalists"

B-b-but i didn't encounter Jarvis. I stood him up! (Yes, I do like Pulp, but I had somewhere else to be and he was late. This, I should point out, was for an interview and not for a date).

I hate that people are regretting voting for things just because other people did. Common People is going to win because lots of people liked it. Deal with it.

― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"I definitely regret voting for "Common People" (although it was around 25 or so if I remember correctly) but I had no idea this poll would end with a giant sick brit-pop lovefest/orgy."

Oh come on people were predicting that "Common People" would be #1 from like the get go.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

This poll is balanced pretty well I think.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

had no idea this poll would end with a giant sick brit-pop lovefest/orgy.

What? We've got the top 20 still to go and the only track you could call Britpop is 'Common People'.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that we know the top 20 - but what else is likely to be there?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

albums poll giveaway:

MENSWEAR - "Nuisance" (2352 points, 76 votes, 15 first place votes)

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck "Shine" it's "Smashing Young Man" love all the way

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

MENSWEAR - "Nuisance" (2352 points, 76 votes, 15 first place votes)
I think you're bluffing.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

What is 'Shine', btw?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Terrible.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

btw, i think i've got everything listed here so far and would be more than happy to do a CDR700 kinda thing to share on slsk

― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh come on people were predicting that "Common People" would be #1 from like the get go.

Yeah obviously and I don't really have any problem with that I LIKE it its a great song but the whole st. etienne - pulp - pet shop boys thing has left a great distaste in my mouth.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

quick recap, mainly cos i'm beginning to assmeble the tracks into a folder...

100.- PALACE MUSIC - "New Partner",
AIR - "All I Need"
99.- MADONNA - "Deeper and Deeper",
TEENAGE FANCLUB - "The Concept"
97.- WU-TANG CLAN - "Shame On A Nigga"
96.- BEASTIE BOYS - "Intergalactic"
95.- MADONNA - "Ray of Light"
94.- CORNERSHOP - "Brimful of Asha"
92.- BJORK - "Human Behaviour",
ORBITAL - "Belfast"
91.- ISOLEE - "Beau Mot Plage"
90.- ARAB STRAP - "The First Big Weekend"
89.- NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - "Hypnotize"
88.- THE MAGNETIC FIELDS - "The Luckiest Guy On the Lower East Side"
87.- PAVEMENT - "Shady Lane"
86.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Like A Motorway"
85.- SLOWDIVE - "Alison"
83.- LAMB - "Gorecki",
APHEX TWIN - "Girl/Boy Song"
81.- BLUR - "Song 2",
DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - "Humpty Dance"
79.- DE LA SOUL - "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays",
MASSIVE ATTACK - "Angel"
78.- THE PIXIES - "Alec Eiffel"
77.- EMINEM - "My Name Is"
76.- DESTINY'S CHILD - "Say My Name"
75.- NAUGHTY BY NATURE - "O.P.P."
74.- BASEMENT JAXX - "Rendez-Vu"
73.- OASIS - "Live Forever"
72.- MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "When You Sleep"
71.- THE CURE - "Pictures of You"
70.- NOTORIOUS B.I.G. featuring PUFF DADDY and MASE - "Mo Money, Mo Problems"
69.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Avenue"
68.- SAINT ETIENNE - "You're In A Bad Way"
67.- SAINT ETIENNE - "Nothing Can Stop Us"
66.- JEFF BUCKLEY - "Hallelujah"
65.- PETE ROCK & CL SMOOTH - "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)"
64.- ORBITAL - "Halcyon"
63.- LL COOL J - "Mama Said Knock You Out"
62.- MISSY ELLIOTT - "The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly)"
61.- HAPPY MONDAYS - "Kinky Afro"
60.- WU-TANG CLAN - "C.R.E.A.M."
59.- BJORK - "Joga"
58.- PULP - "This Is Hardcore"
57.- TLC - "Creep"
56.- THE SMASHING PUMPKINS - "Cherub Rock"
55.- UNDERWORLD - "Cowgirl"
54.- THE KLF - "Last Train To Trancentral"
53.- PORTISHEAD - "Sour Times"
52.- MADONNA - "Vogue"
51.- MOBB DEEP - "Shook Ones Pt. II"
50.- PULP - "Do You Remember the First Time?"
49.- MAZZY STAR - "Fade Into You"
47.- AALIYAH - "One In A Million"
WHITE TOWN - "Your Woman"
46.- MY BLOODY VALENTINE - "To Here Knows When"
45.- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - "Stars of Track and Field"
44.- R.E.M. - "Losing My Religion"
43.- THE ORB - "Little Fluffy Clouds"
42.- THE MAGNETIC FIELDS - "100,000 Fireflies"
40.- BLUR - "Coffee and TV"
ICE CUBE - "It Was A Good Day"
39.- THE KLF (FEATURING TAMMY WYNETTE) - "Justified and Ancient"
38.- PULP - "Babies"
37.- PET SHOP BOYS - "Can You Forgive Her?"
36.- OMNI TRIO - "Renegade Snares (Foul Play VIP Mix)"
35.- THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G. - "Juicy"
34.- NEW RADICALS - "You Get What You Give"
33.- PET SHOP BOYS - "Being Boring"
32.- PULP - "Disco 2000"
30.- FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - "Papua New Guinea"
BRITNEY SPEARS - "Baby One More Time"
29.- OL' DIRTY BASTARD (FEATURING KELIS) - "Got Your Money"
28.- UNDERWORLD - "Born Slippy NUXX"
27.- TRICKY - "Black Steel"
26.- SAINT ETIENNE - "He's On the Phone"
25.- 2PAC - "California Love"
24.- DEPECHE MODE - "Enjoy the Silence"
23.- DAFT PUNK - "Da Funk"
22.- THE CARDIGANS - "Lovefool"
21.- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - "The State I Am In"

― rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Those caps are hard to read.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the Pet Shop Boys have really bossed this poll. I didn't realise they were what you meant by Britpop. I'm sure they'd be thrilled!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

As I said before, the Top 20 is still to come and it doesn't look like they'll be any bleeding Britpop in it at all, except 'Common People'.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

How bout "british popular music from the early 90s that didn't make it in the U.S. and that many of us think is overrepresented on this poll."

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry for so many of us being British, again.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I accept no apologies.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, enough people voted for it, so how does that make it over-represented?

(xpost)

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Over 1/4 of the music on this poll so far is music made by fairly crappy fey british pop/schmindie bands (I didn't even count MBV or Slowdive or various trip-hop acts.) I think it's fair to say to that thread of popular music is overrepresented on this poll, Alba.

Hey, you've been upbraiding us for the election of Bush over on ILE (which is baffling to me since you guys have Blair.) We can give you a little shit about how crappy this poll is turning out.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Correction to my post above. It = them = tracks you don't like but other people do

(xpost)

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Etienne/Pulp/PSB are not crappy!

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

it's amazing the sense of entitlement some people have towards a public forum.

― miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I just don't see the point of bringing nationality into it. It's ridiculous, given the British origins of ILM. There's no such thing as an objective list. I wouldn't mind so much if people were moaning about the lack of Senegalese music in the list, but when it just seems to come down to 'there should be even more American stuff', well it's just a bit daft.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

See, I could understand if people complained about the proportion of "britpop" in the nominations, but this is what people voted for out of a very very long list with plenty non-PSB/Pulp/Saint Etienne on it. You don't like the results, tough, it's still a representation of what people voted for.

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This is getting stupid ... there's just as much mid->late 90's American hip-hop on the list (with more to come, as opposed to the mid-90's "fey British pop/schmindie bands) and I don't hear anyone saying that hip-hop is overrepresented.

Granted, there are more hip-hop aritsts represented ... this is a different issue, however.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey just cuz it's what people voted for doesn't mean I have to like it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The lack of Japanese noise bands is what troubles me most, save one possible exception.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't say you did, but I just don't agree it's "overrepresented" (xpost)

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

And I wouldn't have a problem with the poll so much if it weren't for the fact that there are (or will be) TEN tracks by Pulp and Saint Etienne which is just silly.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Also there IS less American hip-hop on the list, MIR.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Incidently, just cuz yr british isn't an excuse. There is a very specific musical thread to the british bands (over)praised on here (and like I said, I even LIKE some of them...) - I'm no expert on this but how is rave and club music faring when compared to stuff like etienne pulp B&S et al? That's not a UK-American thing.

And there hasn't been a single hip-hop artist, or even hip-hop PRODUCER who's had FIVE cuts on this list, so don't give me that either.

And obviously like Alex said - "just cuz it's what people voted for doesn't mean I have to like it."

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, that's cause people nominated loads, leading to lots of St Etienne low down, instead of one or two high up. St Etienne fans be bad strategists.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Dance music has perhaps suffered more than most things from differing tastes. Jed is a big dance music fan, for instance, but didn't think much of the nominations so didn't vote for much of it.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, where the FUCK are all the Disco Inferno records???

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, edited for 20...

20. Aphex Twin - "Windowlicker"
19. Blackstreet f/ Dr. Dre - "No Diggity"
18. Neutral Milk Hotel - "Two-Headed Boy"
17. Disco Inferno - "The Last Dance"
16. Radiohead - "Airbag" (though it'll be pretty fucking weak if this makes it, of course it probably will)
15. Warren G. f/ Nate Dogg - "Regulate"
14. Blur - "For Tomorrow"
13. Jay-Z - "Big Pimpin'"
12. Aaliyah - "Are You That Somebody?"
11. Geto Boys - "Mind Playin' Tricks on Me"
10. Beck - "Loser"
9. Breeders - "Cannonball"
8. Dr. Dre - "Nuthin' But a "G" Thang"
7. My Bloody Valentine - "Soon"
6. Massive Attack - "Unfinished Sympathy"
5. Deee-Lite - "Groove is in the Heart"
4. Stardust - "Music Sounds Better With You"
3. Nirvana - "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
2. Radiohead - "Paranoid Android"
1. Pulp - "Common People"

possible:

Mark Morrison - "Return of the Mack"
Bjork - "Hyperballad"

Leftfield - "Open Up"
Joey Beltram - "Energy Flash"
Orbital - "Chime"
Sinnead O'Connor - "Nothing Compares 2 U"

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I count sixteen American hip-hop tracks, with another four or five to come, that totals one-fifth of the list. Britpop (and lumping PSB + Saint Etienne + Pulp under one label is a BIG stretch) = ~ one-quarter of the list. Not much of a difference! And if we're going to lump Saint Etienne in with Blur and Oasis, then I say we should lump Aaliyah and TLC in with hip-hop and make an "American urban music" category and then it's even.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, it seems like a bizarre thing to complain about, but there is virtually no American indie or alternative rock on this list. I guess that's better than there being too much of it, but there really should be more than there is.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I just find all this funny, cause it's usually the proportion of (mostly US) indie-rock that puts people's backs up on polls like this. Having several Pulp and Saint Etienne tracks appear in a top 100 (not even very high, as I keep saying) is an interesting flipside complaint.

Man, where the FUCK are all the Disco Inferno records???

There were three DI tracks nominated, I think. I guess they're just not big enough to withstand that kind of vote split.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

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