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I'm listening to "Technologicque Park" right now off the "XXX" soundtrack... not a bad track in my opinion. Dark, spacey, but with the right amount of balance... and it still keeps you properly disoriented. BTW has anyone had a chance to meet the Hartnoll boys? I was happy I got a chance to talk with them after the Worcester '99 show, and they were definately two extrodinary individuals... they didn't mind chatting for an hour with my friends and I, as long as we kept bumming them cigarettes and asking interesting questions...

― The Man they call Dan (The Man they call Dan), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

i SHOULD'VE talked to Paul Hartnoll at Glastonbury last year as he was standing right there (points to about a metre from where i am) outisde the Rizal cafe but i was talking to Osymyso instead, and before i knew it Paul said he was off to catch The Selecter in The Glade so i didnt get the chance to grill him about that all-important descending outro to 'out there somewhere', which i will now always regret.

'Snivilisation' has strong broody moments - namely the two tracks i mention i never listen to on it, plus a couple of other bits (first part of 'Are We Here') - i find the first three tracks quite soothing despite the sinister overtones of the samples used on 'I Wish I Had Duck Feet' and Alison Goldfrapp's wailings on 'Sad But True' (which pilfers the intro to The Selecter's 'The Selecter' tune sample-spotters) - 'In Sides' is definitely a darker album overall imo

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:29 (twenty-three years ago)

B-b-but disk 2 of _In Sides_ version 1 has "Sad But New" on it, which is a much more uplifting, happier version of "Sad But True"... Actually, for both versions the second disk does a lot to alleviate the heaviness of the first disk.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 15:36 (twenty-three years ago)

i've never even heard of a 2 disc version of In Sides to be honest - but i have Sad But True via the Diversions CD and yeh its somewhat more upbeat

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

In the US, _In Sides_ is a double CD with two editions:

Edition 1 (aka THE KICK-ASS EDITION): CD2 contains the "Times Fly" EP and "The Box" EP.
Edition 2 (aka THE ALMOST AS KICK-ASS EDITION): CD2 contains two versions of "Satan", "The Saint", "The Sinner" and a live version of "Halcyon".

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Sad But True via the Diversions CD
are you sure, i have diversions and that's not on it.

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:44 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm assuming Steve meant the "Times Fly" EP.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

eep, no i actually meant the CD given away with The Guardian - i think it was just a 4 track thing but can't remember what it was called...and i meant 'Sad But New' of course

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)

what do people think of the Mutations EP? i hated the new version of 'Chime' (cleverly dubbed 'Chime Chime') with the added vocals...altho i think it had the Moby remix of 'Speed Freak' on it which was pretty cool

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 18:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Going back to the Adnans/Dwr Budr confusion Dan mentioned, to this date I don't remember which one it is that I like -- I only know that it has the Alison Goldfrapp vox and that the first half is completely stellar, marred by an inappropriately goofy second half (probably Dwr Budr then? Given the "dirty water" theme and all).

― Leee (Leee), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Can I mention Orbital's fantastic remix of Back To The Planet's "Daydream" now? Cheers!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 21:45 (twenty-three years ago)

i recall 'In Sides' being described as their darkest album at the time of its release, in reviews

Its environmental sleeve theme was definitely dark to say the least, but I wouldn't say the music was.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 21:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Can we get some love for the insanely long version of "The Box?" I happened to pick up the 2 disc In Sides in the summer of '96 and it turned my head around all summer. Oh, the days when I somehow randomly bought music that was absurdly great.

― r. geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 23:10 (twenty-three years ago)

The 30 minute version of "The Box" is definitely a classic. The "In-Sides" version was nice enough too though.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)

and how about those Orbital videos? The Box is a brilliant video, possibly their best. Are We Here was full of inspirational imagery and those fake washing powder boxes saying 'Orbital' were cool, Halcyon featured the girl hallucinating and dancing in the kitchen - who i THINK is actually Kirsty Hawkshaw (same girl who i THINK Orbital sampled on that track), Lush is the car boot sale...all great stuff - and 'The Altogether' DVD is worth picking up for the vids created for each track (the 'Funny Break' one is very cool especially)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)

not knowing anything about orbital, would the work 1989-2002 be a good starting point?

― Ess Kay (esskay), Thursday, 1 May 2003 04:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually Ess Kay I reckon just dive right in with one of the albums - I can't imagine being bored by an Orbital album but not by a best-of, if you know what i mean.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 1 May 2003 04:26 (twenty-three years ago)

not knowing anything about orbital, would the work 1989-2002 be a good starting point?

Sort of but...well, not really. For reasons unexplained (and which pissed the band off enormously, apparently), their label decided to eschew the "proper" and mostly glorious full-length album/12" versions in favour of shitty radio edits.

Thus, you're best off persuading someone nice with a fairly comprehensive Orbital collection to burn you a full-length best-of comp.

(NB I'm not sure I am that person, sadly, nice as can be - most of my Orbital's on vinyl and 12000 miles away...)

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 May 2003 06:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, and for what it's worth, I've republished my original review of Work on my blog.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 May 2003 06:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Nah, Work is k-rub... a complete wasted opportunity. In my mind, Orbital were never really a singles band anyway and filling up one CD with cruelly curtailed singles edits of great tracks and then calling it a best of is unnatural and wrong in my opinion.

Can I take this opportunity to reaffirm the unabashed kick-arsedness of Technologique Park again please? Thankyou.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 May 2003 09:29 (twenty-three years ago)

it happened with The Orb as well...tho there was a double CD versio of their best of - Orbital shouldve had one of those as well

still 'Work' is very accessible so might suit Ess Kay, otherwise snap up the Brown album and In Sides and see how you go from there

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 1 May 2003 10:04 (twenty-three years ago)

The brown album, _Snivilization_, _In Sides_ and _The Middle of Nowhere_ are all essential. _The Altogether_ is slightly less essential but still necessary. The green album... I think I made my feelings clear on that one earlier in the thread.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 May 2003 12:13 (twenty-three years ago)

out of curiosity, since all of you are far more well-versed in the ways of the Hartnolls than i am, does anyone have any thoughts on the Orbitalamenti "Beached"?

― janni (janni), Thursday, 1 May 2003 18:05 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought 'Beached' was okay, i preferred it to 'Style' - but then i really liked the soundtrack to 'The Beach' in general

here's the Spooky track i mentioned upthread: Fingerbobs an old tune ('95/'96) that has that old Orbital sound/vibe

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:32 (twenty-three years ago)

five months pass...

Why have they released this Octane soundtrack thing? I mean, as a collection of spooky noises and tension building background music I'm sure its fine but I can't really imagine why anyone would want to listen to it as a record in its own right.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 20 October 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Whatwhatwhat? New Orbital? Even if it's only a soundtrack it's probably better than The Altogether. :o(

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

the track from Octane i heard a few weeks ago was EXCELLENT

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick I'm in the process of reviewing for your website! It's come out in a blaze of no publicity whatsoever - the most ambient thing they've ever done, almost entirely beatless.

Steve - that's probably the remix of Initiation, which is supposedly on the next album proper. The original Initiation is alright as well - definitely the most 'Orbital' thing on there.

It's not better than The Altogether :( But it's not really being treated as a 'proper' album, though, so its difficult to judge what the next one will be like.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread used to come up every so often and remind me that i still didn't have any orbital albums...
since then i've got insides,which i really like,and snivelisation,which i haven't really got into,it sounds quite good but there's nothing that really grabs me in the way that halcyon,way out,belfast,or chime (which i downloaded after reading this thread,incidentally) did/do

― robin (robin), Monday, 20 October 2003 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I think everyone will be glad to know that at some point in the last year I woke up thinking, "My God, 'Chime' is fucking amazing," and have yet to be convinced that I was wrong.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 October 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The only thing I don't like about Orbital is that they aren't really about dancing so much as just going "wow".

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:40 (twenty-two years ago)

This is true.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I disagree (but I would).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I thought you might dude!

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Typical.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Orbital to me have always been pretty much 50/50 ratio in terms of dancing and listening/experiencing as primary functions of their music

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...

The giant windpower blades at the beginning of The Girl With the Sun In Her Head are mega.

(megawhat? megawatt. sorry...)

― Lukas (lukas), Monday, 19 January 2004 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Orbital 2 - CLASSIC! ONE OF MY FAVORITES! HOORAY!
Yes, Lukas those blades are mega-mega-megatron!!!!

Transform!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 January 2004 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Man, I SUCK! Boredom is a horrible thing.

I was serious about Orbital 2, though.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 January 2004 06:13 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

New album June 21st:

Orbital - Blue
http://www.loopz.co.uk/discog/album/blue.html

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Old-skool atom cover, original Orbital loop, named after a colour... these are all good signifiers. I'm hopeful for a return to form here.

Tracks called 'Pants' however, fill be with horrific versions of Altogetheresque comedy techno.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

further evidence they're becoming/have become the Simply Red of techno

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

will 'You Lot' sample 'The Magnificent Seven' i wonder..?

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It features Sparks, who are back on top form, how fucking great is this going to be. Simply Red, pah.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Nice cover. "Pants" sounds rubbish but the fact that it's followed later in the album by "Acid Pants" may redeem it.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I have no problem whatsoever with tracks called 'Acid Pants'. Orbital wouldn't dare use the word "acid" in a track title and have anything less than three simultaneous 303 lines squoinking away over one another.

Word has it that the new album is more InSides/Snivilisation than the last two albums, with the exception of Sunrise which is meant to be proper euphoric Halcyon hands-in-the-air stuff.

The sample from You Lot goes something like: "Unravelled DNA and at the same time youre cultivating bacteria strong enough to kill every living thing. Do you think you are ready for that much power. You lot ? You lot? You're running around science like kids with guns." Which needs to be a huge Snivilisation/Forever-esque rant over the top otherwise I will be hugely disappointed.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I have absolutely no reason to be excited by this, but I am nonetheless.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

What Matt has just written there has made me piss my pants, like.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm sure i'll love this no matter what

― dyson (dyson), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Orbital were really something once. I found M of N pleasant, but...hmm. I heard one song from Altogether and was like...THAT was Orbital?? I didn't bother purchasing it. I agree that in hindsight the Brown album was really where it was at. Infact, I almost want to jump off a bridge right now for selling it once. I heard it playing in a store recently and was ridden with guilt. I just figured I'd be able to buy it again someday. Maybe I'll go straight to the store after writing this and rectify this horrible situation immediately.

The Brown album hangs together better because one song flows into another, one idea flows into another.

― bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

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