― nabisco%%, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Mainly I'm posting again because I remembered something else about the biblical fucked-upness of current laws -- it is nearly impossible for a prostitute to bring rape charges & of course prostitutes are ESPECIALLY at risk for that. More proof that the current laws are based on notions of "purity" than actual human relations.
― Sterling Clover, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gareth, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tim, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
I didn't know you knew the girl personally to make a judgement on her maturity - or are you scoping her too? Anyhow, she's 17 now, as someone else noted - not then. Otherwise what the hell would the case be? And I've never been passive-aggressive towards you, I've always been openly and actively aggressive towards you, being as I find you the second most insufferable person I've ever met off of this message board. I believe passive-aggressive could be defined as you and your friend's little jealous email to me over the Chuck Eddy thing, for example.
Here's the point: it'd be far too long and complex for the courts to abolish age laws and then on a case-by-case basis judge what is right and what is wrong. Not only that, but as has been pointed out, you're the one insistant that you don't want the government making decisions like this - so why are you going to lay something as complex as maturity and intelligence in the hands of judges and legislators? That doesn't make much sense at all. And you were a little too busy being bitter towards my knowledge of your invisible girlfriend's age to notice my actual point: would you have ALL age laws abolished and how would we then decide to legislate ALL of these things? Because unless you want them ALL abolished, you seem like a bit of a pervy freak right now.
― Ally, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
And hells yeah I'm for at the least drastically reworking legal restrictions on drinking, smoking, and voting in various different ways. I didn't address it because I couldn't seriously believe that anyone on the den of debauchery that is ILX rilly thinks that people shouldn't be able to drink till they're 21 etc.
Fuck, teenagers should be able to move out of their parents house to their own place when they're 16 or so. It would save all parties involved a great deal of frustration.
Also why do people worry so much about 'lost innocence'? Innocence in this world will get you killed. If somebody's tangled or tango'ed with a superstar predator early, they'll be more sussed later. It doesn't necessarily have to mean 'victimisation', except if they take subsequent fallout badly and end up ODing or in the nut hatch or something
is a dilettante attitude. You should meet some of the children I work with in my day job, many of whom have had the questionable good fortune to meet up with people who've given them the dubious opportunity to get "sussed" earlier. They are f***ed up now. Not crazy, mind you. Just angry & bitter & headed nowhere fast, and suffused with a sense of hopelessness. "Innocence" is of course a loaded word. Better to say that childhood shouldn't involve sex with adults, since it effectively ends childhood, and many of the developmental milestones which one encounters during the time of one's childhood are essential to later growth & happiness.
― John Darnielle, Friday, 7 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Monday, 10 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ben Elton, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RickyT, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
NOT GUILTY
― jeff, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
R you fucking kidding me
― deej, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Nope, just now on AP
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
O_O
― J0rdan S., Friday, 13 June 2008 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link
unbelievable
anyway good piece on dero pleading the 5th / issues of child porn here: http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/hottype/080612/
― deej, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
is he gonna celebrate this occasion with a statutory rape or two?
― omar little, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link
at the River North McDonald's.
― Eazy, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
My minds telling me nooooooo!
― jim, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link
thank God we live in a country where a man can pee on a young girl and not have to go to jail for it
― J0hn D., Friday, 13 June 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
totally got this in my head now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_DTexNGn-U
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 13 June 2008 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link
http://koreantomcruise.muxtape.com/
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
You realize his next album is going to be titled "I Had Sex with an Underage Girl"
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link
holy shit, i can't believe he got off (pun not intended)
― Beatrix Kiddo, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Beatrix Kiddo, though I may appreciate it that was a FAIL. R Kelly wouldn't be as blatant as to title his album with something that would directly implicate him, it'd be something innocuous like 'Them Girls' and he'd sing some shit like (off the top of my head); 'I love them girls with the long hair, short hair, black hair, no hair down there, I love them girls with the big eyes, big thighs, come up to my thighs, I love them girls with the smooth skin, body a 10 just turned eleven, oooh..." and T. Pain would be on that joint and no one would be the wiser. I better get royalties if this happens.
― VeronaInTheClub, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:32 (fifteen years ago) link
how the fuck?
― The Reverend, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Not my finest hour.
― VeronaInTheClub, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
WOW amazing....don't care if it's offensive but I'm happy, more music from kells
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Fantastic.
― Eazy, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
(the song parody, not the trial or chinch's comment!)
― Eazy, Friday, 13 June 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
count me in, very happy about the verdict here.
― Jena, Saturday, 14 June 2008 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Yup.
― Noodle Vague, Saturday, 14 June 2008 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link
still cant believe this shit feelin like dan p up in this
― The Reverend, Saturday, 14 June 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link