this kind of music as played by Indie DJs at Indie discos
is this a thing that happened in the u.s.? probably accounts for the different usage of the word on either side of the ocean
― ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link
maybe it would help if you think of it like indie (UK) = alternative (US)?
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
ah yeah I had that one too. some nice indie-dance crossover selections too
Oh god, you've just reminded me I owned this one
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― chonky floof (groovypanda), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
I had Happy Daze vol 2. tbh there are some classics on that one fuiud
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link
to give it it's strictest definition, if you can tippex the band name on a pencil case AND find it in camden market on a badge BUT NOT A WOVEN PATCH then it is indie, anything else is pop or metal and not for you.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link
i hear some College Rock wasn't made by Colleges either
― how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link
i think "getting away with it" just edges out "regret"SameSame
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― or something, Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link
since my brain worked out the melody lift from Love My Way, i can't listen to Getting Away With It any more :-(always thought Disappointed was superior actually!
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
Connection
― A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
"Getting Away with It."
― clemenza, Thursday, 10 September 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link
green day feels very out of place here
― ptah el dude (voodoo chili), Thursday, 10 September 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
Getting Away With It or Animal Nitrate.
On a compilation that features The Cranberries, Shed Seven and Dodgy it's something to say that Parklife is the most annoying thing here.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 10 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
if you google "getting away with it", guess what you get? a song by james! which is quite good, actually.
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 10 September 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link
btw i also voted for it.
― walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 10 September 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
Tbf, it never referred strictly to the status of labels on either side of the pond. iirc the NME's weekly Indie chart referred strictly to distribution, so if Food Records didn't go through EMI's in-house distributor, Jesus Jones and Blur would have counted, but if a fanzine cassette got into shops bc a mate worked at Warners and helped them out, it was disqualifiedthis definitely meant that Kylie Minogue records frequently topped the Indie chart, being on the sole-ownership concern Pete Waterman Limited
― erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link
although ironically, "Indie" Kylie's records never troubled that chart
― Number None, Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link
Ha, yeah, I thought of stating that chart as an exception. "Indie" DID always have that economic meaning but it was also used as a shorthand for a style of rock music on both sides of the Atlantic.
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 September 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link
Back in the early 90s people used to tell me 'alternative' was just the American name for 'indie'.
― Oor Neechy, Thursday, 10 September 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
But I think of like, Faith No More and I dunno Primus being 'alternative'.
― chap, Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link
this is almost the same tracklist as the naked chef compilation which is real
― plax (ico), Thursday, 10 September 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link
This was the first compilation I ever bought! on tape. don't think I'd heard Suede before that point and Animal Nitrate just blew most of the rest away, but I have overwhelming fondness for nearly all other tracks on here purely for nostalgic reasons. except Cigarettes and Alcohol.
― kinder, Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link
and Sit Down, which I hate obviously, but probably didn't mind the first 3 or 4 times i heard it hang on, when was Now 26? that had Laid on it, maybe that was my first comp.
― kinder, Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
If there is only one vote for Jesus Jones Zombie, it me.
― more haim than good (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 10 September 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link
I think Now 26 was about 1993... is that the one with Creep on it?
― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Friday, 11 September 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link
Is the "How soon is now" a mid 90s remix or something?
― billstevejim, Friday, 11 September 2020 05:10 (three years ago) link
green day
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 September 2020 05:49 (three years ago) link
Cigarettes and Alcohol
best Oasis song, basically perfect tune
― naked and sexually active alien (rip van wanko), Friday, 11 September 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link
DL, yes, that's the one. 1993! And Play Dead right after So Natural!
― kinder, Friday, 11 September 2020 07:45 (three years ago) link
I swear I will take some of those Now tracklistings to my grave. Have we ever put lord the UK Nows? Vaguely remember a US one happening
― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Friday, 11 September 2020 07:54 (three years ago) link
“Put lord” = polled
I went through a phase of listening to them all in order until it hit approx the year 2000. The year 1999 was the absolute nadir for chart music.Madonna never on any Now btw. Probably other obvious exclusions too?
― kinder, Friday, 11 September 2020 07:59 (three years ago) link
Suede or Electronic probably.
Never particularly cared for Suede but saw what must have been several of their earliest gigs when they'd be first on at the Bull & Gate with about five people watching. Then very quickly they'd have this posse of enthusiastic female supporters who'd stand by the stage even when the place was mostly empty, which was pretty unusual for third on the bill, or.indeed any 'indie' groups then.
― grebo shot first (Noel Emits), Friday, 11 September 2020 08:06 (three years ago) link
Madonna never on any Now btw. Probably other obvious exclusions too?
Think Michel Jackson only has one appearance for similar reasons
― groovypanda, Friday, 11 September 2020 08:09 (three years ago) link
Yeah, was thinking of MJ. I revise my former statement btw, I think I only listened to all the Nows of the 90s.
― kinder, Friday, 11 September 2020 08:15 (three years ago) link
The Hits Album often featured songs by artists such as Madonna, Prince, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston and other big international artists that did not appear on rival Now compilations, and it was probably for this reason the albums were equally popular throughout the 1980s.
― Kim Kimberly, Friday, 11 September 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link
i think "getting away with it" just edges out "regret"SameSameSame
The opposite
― daavid, Saturday, 12 September 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link
"Getting Away With It" is the dictionary definition of "less than the sum of its parts"
― 这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 12 September 2020 07:42 (three years ago) link
Yeah, but those are big parts
― Mark G, Saturday, 12 September 2020 07:44 (three years ago) link
CAAL's top five looks spot-on, but I voted Suede of course
― imago, Saturday, 12 September 2020 08:05 (three years ago) link
Madonna, Prince, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston
That's one hell of a five to have locked in.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 September 2020 10:04 (three years ago) link
The song here I loved the most at one point is How Soon Is Now but I can't bring myself to vote for anything Morrissey-related at this point.
CAAL's list is approximately right but I never need to hear Parklife again and *whispers* I quite like Size Of A Cow (I don't expect anyone to agree with me on this) so I have mentally swapped them - though even I will concede there is no way the latter should be above Weirdo. Don't really care about the Charlatans but I could listen to the intro of Weirdo on loop for hours. Shame he starts singing.
Going to leave it to a last-minute whim whether to vote Pulp or Elastica.
(OK I just watched the Size Of A Cow video on youtube and maybe now I understand why everyone else hates them, that is one annoying-seeming bunch of people there)
― scampus unrest (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 12 September 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link
I never bought any Shines because the tracklistings seemed too obvious to spend money on, plus my friends had a bunch which I could've just asked to tape except I was too much of a snob, but I did have Steve Lamacq's "Weekenders" compilation so yeah, I lose.
(I think I got it for a quid, tbf, plucked out of a bargain bin because a couple of the otherwise quite obvious tracks appeared in a remixed form which sounded potentially interesting, but I still lose)
The Indie Top 20s were mostly before my time - think the last came out in '96 so Shine (1995-1998) may even have killed them off, though I didn't really notice them pre-Shine so they may already have run out of steam or marketing money - but I have the '88 one (Wire! Cardiacs! HMHB! ACR! Sonic Youth! The Shamen, hi Branwell; that explains why I knew "Jesus Loves Amerika" already) and it is bronzed to hell now, one of only a couple of bronzed CDs I've noticed in my collection. Hope the whole series didn't do that.
― scampus unrest (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 12 September 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link
'Weirdo' made me think the Charlatans were good
― kinder, Saturday, 12 September 2020 13:56 (three years ago) link
they're not a bad band necessarily, but Weirdo is definitely one of their very best
― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Saturday, 12 September 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
I secretly thought Size of a Cow was an out of character good song at the time but he wasn't called Hunt for nothing
― how do i shot moon? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 12 September 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link
Yeah, the Indie Top 20 series started very indie and gradually got more & more mainstream although even the later volumes would still throw up the odd track by the likes of The Cramps or Urusei Yatsura xps
― groovypanda, Saturday, 12 September 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
Hi, Space Cadet! Wow, that sounds like a great compilation. I have weird feelings about Jesus Loves Amerika, but it makes sense that's where you encountered it.
After going down the memory hole of YouTube over the past few days, I'm very sheepishly admitting that I kinda wanna change my vote to Jesus Jones not Electronic. (Especially after seeing how much love the latter is getting on this thread.) Yes, they were a shameless Shamen rip-off act, but that was some Pavlovian nostalgia to hear them again.
I wasn't fond of Size of a Cow, but going back and listening to the singles from Eight-Legged Groove Machine, I did kind of recapture the frothy joy of what I liked about The Wonder Stuff. Were The Wonder Stuff Grebo? Should I start a Grebo thread to hash out what Grebo was, because Stirmonster never told me anything except what Grebo *wasn't*.
This stuff is silly pop joy:
https://youtu.be/cY446CO6USQ
https://youtu.be/7Aw-JYtdW4o
But listening to this with an adult's ear rather than a teenager's, the monetary preoccupation in these singles really kind of stands out - like at the time, it really passed me by, but now I'm really wondering if this is unironic celebration of Thatcher-era 80s greed, or if it's a politically charged lampooning of the attitudes expressed in the songs. They never struck me as a political band, far more a silly jokes bants-type band. But looking back on it now, I don't know?
― Specific and Limited Interests (Branwell with an N), Sunday, 13 September 2020 08:07 (three years ago) link
I sometimes wonder about Jesus Jones. What we're they about? What were their hopes and dreams? Was it baggy? Was it industrial? Was it grebo? Indie? Pop? Were they more like PWEI or more like EMF? What exactly were they going for? Just what was the deal?
― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Sunday, 13 September 2020 08:19 (three years ago) link
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this reveals little
― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Sunday, 13 September 2020 08:22 (three years ago) link
haha especially if the photo worked
― Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Sunday, 13 September 2020 08:23 (three years ago) link