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ah ok

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 23 January 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

i guess this is aight for ppl who don't know about like hype machine or .rar blogs or that you can stream basically any song ever on youtube

i could see myself streaming a song once in a while

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 23 January 2008 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

I can't see many people paying to stream rather than download but last fm do have established users who might do it because it's last fm and anything they stream will still be logged in their stats.
I'm guessing a lot of people may subscribe for 1 month to try it but how many will do that beyond is anyones guess.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

i'm a subscriber anyway (as are you, herman) so i'll be interested to see what the deal is with my existing set-up ... but yeh, i think this is pretty big fucking news.

i was thinking about it on the way home from work: with the way tech is going (ie a move away from "your computer with all your stuff" towards "your client machines talking to your server"), some kind of streaming model for music makes a lot of sense. ie from "you should hear this record when you get a chance" > "listen to this on my iPod ... oh, fuck, i deleted it to make space for something else" > "here, hear it right now -- let's stream it to my 3D holographic iHelmet". we're a way off that just yet, but this is a very interesting move.

and jordan: i know fuck all about hype machine (although i'm about to rectify that, right enough) and youtube is a shit way to listen to music. the key here is not what we, the existing last.fm users, think: it's whether floods of new people will be attracted to the service because it's simple and straightforward and good. i'd like to think so. i shall watch with interest.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, the concept of "owning" music is a bit fucked anyway, no? i used to be so bloody proud of all my vinyl. i cherished it. if you'd told me that in 2008 i'd be sitting here with two hard disks full of music, none of which i can actually *hold*, i'd have wept. but now i'm here, i fucking love it. in the future: what does it matter whose hard disk the files are on, as long as i can listen to what i want, when i want to?

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

Surely it will have to be a shitty quality stream?

jim, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

i'm a subscriber anyway (as are you, herman) so i'll be interested to see what the deal is with my existing set-up ... but yeh, i think this is pretty big fucking news.

It will be a seperate subscription.

http://www.last.fm/subscribe/

COMING SOON...

…Unlimited Listening Subscription

We’re publicly beta testing our new free listening service. You can listen to most tracks up to three times for free.

When the beta is over, we’ll offer a subscription package with unlimited access to a catalogue of music built on partnerships with Universal Music Group, Sony BMG, Warner, EMI and over 150,000 independent labels and artists.

We will continue to offer our existing Basic Subscription.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

How much do you think the subscription for streaming full albums will be?
btw I prefer owning the lp or cd. Or even the odd tape release.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

Surely it will have to be a shitty quality stream?

of course. but again: i'm listening to almost everything at 128kbps AAC these days, so "quality" is a moot point.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

eeeeee

jim, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm listening to nothing below 192.

jim, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Just Say No! To Below (192)

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

Audiophile wars part 1452672435123523142314.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

What do you rip the cds to that you sell, Ned?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 23 January 2008 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

dude behind audio hijack considers the betamax doctrine: short, very much worth reading

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 24 January 2008 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

does this mean anything new for the radio stations and playlists and such? Since they currently, theoretically, let you listen to a track as many times as you want, but not choose specific tracks to listen to (although if you create a relatively small playlist that wouldn't be much of an issue, I imagine).

Merdeyeux, Thursday, 24 January 2008 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

What do you rip the cds to that you sell, Ned?

Up to now, CDRs I've never touched much. (Seriously, a lot of stuff I ripped and sold back in 2004 and the discs were just filed and forgotten.) Now that I've finally got the external HD, they'll go on that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 January 2008 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

Hehe i meant bitrate.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 24 January 2008 02:49 (eighteen years ago)

128 AAC = 192 MP3

blueski, Thursday, 24 January 2008 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

false

abanana, Thursday, 24 January 2008 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

read it on a digital audiophile site ages ago and made sense considering AAC is the more efficient format. i don't use it tho.

not trying to be wet blanket but only 8 of my top 50 tracks can be heard in full so far and around half don't even have a 'play 30 seconds' button. not really obscure stuff either.

blueski, Thursday, 24 January 2008 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

you've only yourself to blame if base58.com can't come to an agreement

ledge, Thursday, 24 January 2008 12:53 (eighteen years ago)

bitrate is more important than format. aac is a little better than lame mp3 at low bitrates but not that much.

abanana, Thursday, 24 January 2008 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

Wonder how much this subscription will be and if it will be worth it?

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 3 February 2008 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

My weekly album collage
http://lastfm.obsessive-media.de/weekly/10x3/trailofgybe.jpeg
What's all yours for this week?

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 4 February 2008 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

hmm it didn't show
http://lastfm.obsessive-media.de/weekly/3x10/trailofgybe.jpeg

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 4 February 2008 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

Weird, now it has.

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 4 February 2008 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't tried this before, let's see if it works:

http://lastfm.obsessive-media.de/weekly/4x4/lixenixen.jpeg

Tuomas, Monday, 4 February 2008 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

the open minded index is back up again http://omi.musickum.com/index.php5

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 21 March 2008 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

Some handy tools here http://build.last.fm/

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 21 March 2008 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

why does last.fm never srobble RA podcasts?

jergïns, Friday, 21 March 2008 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

This is pretty cool:

http://www.associativetrails.com/stuff/normalisefm/index.cfm

It ranks your top artists by how many minutes you have spent listening to them, rather than how many different tracks. Then it even tells you how your rankings have changed. So, for me, Stars of the Lid (looong tracks) bumped up ten spots, and Cassetteboy (many short tracks per album) dropped down 24 spots. Pretty cool.

Z S, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

pretty cool.

Z S, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

yah thanx

jergïns, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that's neat. My biggest beneficiaries were, unsurprisingly, electronic artists. Luomo, for instance, jumped up 20 spots from #27 to #7.

jaymc, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Who broke the top artists?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, my top artists are completely screwed up. I've lost probably 5,000-6,000 scrobbled tracks.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah. My top 50 top artists has been wiped out. Hardly any of those acts are there now.
It looks as almost as if its now a rolling 3 month chart for top artists.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

If i go to the full top artists chart it's fine though. How strange
http://www.last.fm/user/trailofgybe/charts/?charttype=overall&subtype=artist

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

couldn't find this thread earlier because of that missing 'c'

overall charts are broke for many users right now - apparently it's being fixed

blueski, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

It's fixed now.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

mine was fixed-- yesterday when it was fucked up it said "last generated mar 25 2008" now it's fixed and last generated "mar 23 2008"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 25 March 2008 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.last.fm/user/giganticmag/

kenan, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

That is one old-ass account. Too late to turn back now, I guess.

kenan, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

I like the normalizer. Boredoms take the top spot!

kenan, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

oh man the desktop generator from the build last.fm site is my new favourite toy. my current desktop: http://i28.tinypic.com/2eapa0y.jpg (huge)

Roz, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

My Top Artists list doesn't even show up...my Overall Tracks and Top Artists This Week are visible though.

musically, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Your musical compatibility rating with giganticmag is:
Super

why does last.fm never srobble RA podcasts?

? it scrobbles whatever you play. maybe its your media player

tremendoid, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

i found a sweet hack to scrobble my sony walkman.

tremendoid, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

why does last.fm never srobble RA podcasts?

? it scrobbles whatever you play. maybe its your media player

ra podcasts are the only thing it won't scrobble

jergïns, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 23:24 (eighteen years ago)


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