songs that weren't a bands biggest hit, but have gone on to be their legacy song and biggest iTunes seller

"Kashmir" is #7, behind "Good Times Bad Times" and "Ramble On".

xp I think it was in a Thor movie or something.

I mean, this is all just because songs end up in movies/tv shows right?

There are many examples on the thread that can't be explained that way.

xpost Yeah, that's surely why "Paint It Black" has 128 million more streams than "Satisfaction"

e.g. "Renegade" xp

Immigrant Song is p much A-tier LZ I thought?

Shudder to Think’s #1 track (by far) is a Jeff Buckley recording of a Nathan Larson song (apparently performed with STT backing him) that appears on the Legacy Edition of Grace... kind of feels like a database error there.

(YT Music does the same thing, but they credit it as STT feat. Buckley, and tag the track as appearing on a movie soundtrack... so I dunno)

"Immigrant Song" is both one of their most popular radio songs, and also was prominently used (twice!) in Thor: Ragnarok, effectively becoming Thor's fight song.

This exercise is of course different with artists who have as many radio-playlist songs as Zep, but it does strike me that some of them are a little lower than you'd think - e.g. "Houses of the Holy" way down at 18.9m, "Misty Mountain Hop" at 22m, "Hey Hey What Can I Do" at 26.7... "Tangerine" beating all those at 32m. "When the Levee Breaks" at 63m feels more consistent to me. But still, the only one that actually stands out to me in their Spotify top ten is "Going to California" at #9 with 98m, substantially ahead of "D'yer Mak'er" at 76m. Mind you, if this means "D'yer Mak'er" is finally dying out, I'd be the first to celebrate.

"going to california" was used prominently in a major tv show, but i can't remember which one

i think that show, unfortunately, was entourage

I love “The Immigrant Song.” It reminds me of immigrants.

they get the job done

A little surprising to see "Alone" with over 2x as many plays as "Crazy on You" but I guess there's been an intense 80s revival.

― magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, August 10, 2020 12:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm surprised "magic man" doesn't seem to be nearly as popular as my experience / exposure would suggest. it's #7 on spotify, behind two #1 hits that i've definitely never heard. i get "crazy on you" and "barracuda" tho, i just thought "magic man" was their huge all-time hit and guaranteed legacy song but what do i know

I like "Immigrant Song" but it wasn't a bigger chart hit than "Whole Lotta Love" in the US or most places (except Canada, apparently), the latter of which was usually a centrepiece of the live show and I thought got more airplay. (Our station played it today.)

Pure chart position just doesn’t seem relevant when it comes to band like Zep.

(Similarly, the Dead had three Top 10 hits, none of which are in their Spotify top 5.)

Yeah I think even in my antediluvian childhood we were aware of the concept of an "album band"

Just listened to half of Renegade for the first time

I know Come Sail Away from South Park, and the phrase Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto from ppl saying it on Usenet

Chart position was not the only factor I mentioned.

In 2004, the song was ranked number 75 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time, and in March 2005, Q magazine placed "Whole Lotta Love" at number three in its list of the 100 Greatest Guitar Tracks. It was placed 11 on a similar list by Rolling Stone. In 2009 it was named the third greatest hard rock song of all time by VH1.[1] In 2014, listeners to BBC Radio 2 voted "Whole Lotta Love" as containing the greatest guitar riff of all time.[5]...

The song has been widely covered by many artists. It was famous in the United Kingdom for having been the theme music for the long-running television programme Top of the Pops for much of its history.[65] The first version used was based on a recording by the Collective Consciousness Society (or C.C.S.), a band led by blues guitarist Alexis Korner. The C.C.S. version reached No. 13 on the UK singles chart in autumn 1970. The song returned as the theme in 1998, this time using a reworked version of the original Led Zeppelin guitar riff.[66]

A cover of the song by the American band King Curtis and the Kingpins reached No. 64 on US pop chart and No. 43 on the R&B chart in 1971.[67] His performance of the song at the Fillmore West was released on the 1971 live album Live at Fillmore West.[68]

Tina Turner covered the song for her 1975 album Acid Queen. Released on United Artists Records, her version reached No. 61 on the Billboard R&B chart and No. 45 on the Record World R&B chart.[69][70]

A cover of the song by British band Goldbug, including a sample of "Asteroid" (the Pearl & Dean advertising music)[71] reached No. 3 in the UK singles chart in 1996.[72]

A rewritten version of the song featured in the "London 2012" presentation during the closing ceremony of the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing on 24 August 2008, with Jimmy Page on guitar and Leona Lewis providing the vocals. Both Lewis and the organisers requested that some of the lyrics be changed, notably "I'm gonna give you every inch of my love". Lewis felt that the line made little sense coming from a female singer.[73]

I also don't know "Boat on the River" but according to Wikipedia it was a big hit in Germany???

xp That’s all cool, but I don’t see how it necessarily trumps the Thor movie placement or whatever else.

Subjectively, “Immigrant Song” feels like a more “core” Zep song to me (these days) than “WLL” — but I don’t have any other data to back up why. If someone has a Mediabase subscription or whatever, we could look up which song gets more airplay.

Obviously, it doesn't. I just don't think "Immigrant Song" was Led Zeppelin's #2 biggest hit, signature song, whatever, for most of my lifetime, which is what the thread is about. I doubt even they would have said so.

Like, WLL was their go-to encore track live p much from the time it was released. I think they dropped "Immigrant Song" from their live show after a few years.

I hear you, though I don’t think they’ve played a show in a while (LOL).

I think we’re acknowledging the same thing, it just doesn’t seem like a mystery in this case; like “Harness Your Hopes” as the most-streamed Pavement song (for example).

my very unscientific data:
102.9 MGK and 92.1 have played Immigrant Song today, but not WLL
Q104.3 has played Immigrant Song 2 times, but not WLL

Yeah, movie placement explained it. xp

I was pretty sure "Cat Scratch Fever" would be Ted Nugent's biggest song. But no, "Stranglehold" beats it by 65 million streams.

O_O

okay, THAT one's weird to me

Yep, that's very weird.

It's in Dazed and Confused...twice.

Also still a CR Radio staple.

sure, but it's eight minutes long and mostly instrumental - hardcore CR, not so crossovery, whereas "cat scratch fever," also in regular rotation, is conventionally hooky and compact. i've definitely heard it many many more times in my life.

the mostly-instrumentalness of it all might make it easier for listeners to reckon with the fact they're listening to a song by crazy pants ted nugent

^^Bingo. Also probably figures in on a ton of "Classic Rock Guitar/Drums/Epic's/Road Trip Jams etc." playlists.

Speaking tho of hooky and compact, "Immigrant Song" boasts Zep's most famous hook in a handy 2:26 package.

where do you get cross platform streaming stats? “stranglehold” is the first song on Spotify’s official Ted Nugent playlist, a lot of people just listen to one song and move on I think

epic guitar jams playlists is a pretty plausible theory tbh

97 million streams for Stranglehold is pretty amazing in any case. Thats pretty much tied with Dr. Feelgood and Peace of Mind, and 27 million ahead of Crazy on You.

i wonder if we could find a suitable formula that would take into account a song's length + number of streams to determine the (shortest or longest) song with the greatest amount of streamable density

Speaking tho of hooky and compact, "Immigrant Song" boasts Zep's most famous hook in a handy 2:26 package.

except for the 2:26 run time, that explains barracuda's reign atop the heart catalog.

as for zep, the classic rock radio i grew up with in the northeast played whole lotta love, black dog and rock and roll more than any other zep tracks, if memory serves. stairway and kashmir a little less, presumably because of the length. (d'yer mak'er might've been in the top bucket, too, but i've tried to block out that memory.) immigrant song - probably my fave zep hit - got less play than any of those, which, besides the god-like hook and the superhuman vocal, may have had something to do with why i loved it so much. radio never gave me the chance to get sick of it.

Yeah, that sounds like my experience. Tbh, I think heard "Hey Hey What Can I Do" (the B-side of "Immigrant Song") more often on the radio than "Immigrant Song".

(in the 80s and 90s)

i don't recall "immigrant song" being played when i was regularly listening to classic rock radio in the late 90s-early 2000s.

Barracuda appears to have been on many more soundtracks than other Heart songs xps

https://www.tunefind.com/artist/heart

why is 'Harness Youre Hopes' Pavement's most played song?

oh, I see we discussed it a bit upthread but no satisfactory conclusions

There's a brief reddit thread that suggests it's a Spotify algorithm as it always seems to come up on shuffle.

Interestingly, if you look at their Last FM page it's the most scrobbled track for any of the charts up to the last year but when you change it to 'All Time' it doesn't even make the Top 60.

And going off the Last FM figures it's been scrobbled 56 thousand times in the last year but only received 2,500 scrobbles in all the years before

(it also appears again on the list with slightly different metadata)