songs that weren't a bands biggest hit, but have gone on to be their legacy song and biggest iTunes seller

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Not super surprising but Heart’s “Barracuda” which peaked at #11 is their top Spotify song, ahead of their two #1s and five other top ten singles

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

When I lived in a squat full of crust punk types, everyone agreed that "Barracuda" was a badass song, but thought I was a 'pussy' for liking the rest of Heart's oeuvre.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

Even Crazy on You? Wtf

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

Something about the riff in "Barracuda" appeals to people who love Agoraphobic Nosebleed, what can I say.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

Omg it has over 2.5x as many plays as "Crazy on You".

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

A little surprising to see "Alone" with over 2x as many plays as "Crazy on You" but I guess there's been an intense 80s revival.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

yeah i was about to say, their 80s/90s comeback-era stuff does better on there than i'd expect! in terms of radio play i think of that period as equivalent to Van Hagar, where their wiki discography shows all these top 20 songs that i couldn't hum for a million dollars. but apparently they still survive!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 August 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

Dirty Projectors -- I would really assume that 'Stillness is the Move' would still be their big hit, along with maybe some songs from the last couple years that hit the algorithms. But on Spotify, that's got 6 milli plays, while 'Swing Lo Magellan' from 2012 has 11 million, their highest by a lot.

Was it on a movie soundtrack or something, or did it just fit nicely with Spotify mood algos?

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

speaking of 80s comebacks, at least Cheap Trick's two big 70s hits beat out "The Flame"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

"Stairway" is unsurprisingly the most-played Zeppelin song but I was a little surprised to see "Immigrant Song" at #2, ahead of "Whole Lotta Love".

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

"Kashmir" is #7, behind "Good Times Bad Times" and "Ramble On".

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

xp I think it was in a Thor movie or something.

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

I mean, this is all just because songs end up in movies/tv shows right?

brimstead, Monday, 10 August 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

There are many examples on the thread that can't be explained that way.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

xpost Yeah, that's surely why "Paint It Black" has 128 million more streams than "Satisfaction"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

e.g. "Renegade" xp

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Immigrant Song is p much A-tier LZ I thought?

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Shudder to Think’s #1 track (by far) is a Jeff Buckley recording of a Nathan Larson song (apparently performed with STT backing him) that appears on the Legacy Edition of Grace... kind of feels like a database error there.

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

(YT Music does the same thing, but they credit it as STT feat. Buckley, and tag the track as appearing on a movie soundtrack... so I dunno)

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

"Immigrant Song" is both one of their most popular radio songs, and also was prominently used (twice!) in Thor: Ragnarok, effectively becoming Thor's fight song.

This exercise is of course different with artists who have as many radio-playlist songs as Zep, but it does strike me that some of them are a little lower than you'd think - e.g. "Houses of the Holy" way down at 18.9m, "Misty Mountain Hop" at 22m, "Hey Hey What Can I Do" at 26.7... "Tangerine" beating all those at 32m. "When the Levee Breaks" at 63m feels more consistent to me. But still, the only one that actually stands out to me in their Spotify top ten is "Going to California" at #9 with 98m, substantially ahead of "D'yer Mak'er" at 76m. Mind you, if this means "D'yer Mak'er" is finally dying out, I'd be the first to celebrate.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

"going to california" was used prominently in a major tv show, but i can't remember which one

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

i think that show, unfortunately, was entourage

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

I love “The Immigrant Song.” It reminds me of immigrants.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

they get the job done

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

A little surprising to see "Alone" with over 2x as many plays as "Crazy on You" but I guess there's been an intense 80s revival.

― magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, August 10, 2020 12:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm surprised "magic man" doesn't seem to be nearly as popular as my experience / exposure would suggest. it's #7 on spotify, behind two #1 hits that i've definitely never heard. i get "crazy on you" and "barracuda" tho, i just thought "magic man" was their huge all-time hit and guaranteed legacy song but what do i know

budo jeru, Monday, 10 August 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

I like "Immigrant Song" but it wasn't a bigger chart hit than "Whole Lotta Love" in the US or most places (except Canada, apparently), the latter of which was usually a centrepiece of the live show and I thought got more airplay. (Our station played it today.)

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link

Pure chart position just doesn’t seem relevant when it comes to band like Zep.

(Similarly, the Dead had three Top 10 hits, none of which are in their Spotify top 5.)

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Yeah I think even in my antediluvian childhood we were aware of the concept of an "album band"

vitreous humorist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

Just listened to half of Renegade for the first time

I know Come Sail Away from South Park, and the phrase Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto from ppl saying it on Usenet

Steppin' RZA (sic), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

Chart position was not the only factor I mentioned.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link


In 2004, the song was ranked number 75 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time, and in March 2005, Q magazine placed "Whole Lotta Love" at number three in its list of the 100 Greatest Guitar Tracks. It was placed 11 on a similar list by Rolling Stone. In 2009 it was named the third greatest hard rock song of all time by VH1.[1] In 2014, listeners to BBC Radio 2 voted "Whole Lotta Love" as containing the greatest guitar riff of all time.[5]...

The song has been widely covered by many artists. It was famous in the United Kingdom for having been the theme music for the long-running television programme Top of the Pops for much of its history.[65] The first version used was based on a recording by the Collective Consciousness Society (or C.C.S.), a band led by blues guitarist Alexis Korner. The C.C.S. version reached No. 13 on the UK singles chart in autumn 1970. The song returned as the theme in 1998, this time using a reworked version of the original Led Zeppelin guitar riff.[66]

A cover of the song by the American band King Curtis and the Kingpins reached No. 64 on US pop chart and No. 43 on the R&B chart in 1971.[67] His performance of the song at the Fillmore West was released on the 1971 live album Live at Fillmore West.[68]

Tina Turner covered the song for her 1975 album Acid Queen. Released on United Artists Records, her version reached No. 61 on the Billboard R&B chart and No. 45 on the Record World R&B chart.[69][70]

A cover of the song by British band Goldbug, including a sample of "Asteroid" (the Pearl & Dean advertising music)[71] reached No. 3 in the UK singles chart in 1996.[72]

A rewritten version of the song featured in the "London 2012" presentation during the closing ceremony of the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing on 24 August 2008, with Jimmy Page on guitar and Leona Lewis providing the vocals. Both Lewis and the organisers requested that some of the lyrics be changed, notably "I'm gonna give you every inch of my love". Lewis felt that the line made little sense coming from a female singer.[73]

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

I also don't know "Boat on the River" but according to Wikipedia it was a big hit in Germany???

now that you mention it, it was a hit in the Netherlands as well, the last of their grand total of three, after “Sing For The Day” and, obviously, “Babe”.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

xp That’s all cool, but I don’t see how it necessarily trumps the Thor movie placement or whatever else.

Subjectively, “Immigrant Song” feels like a more “core” Zep song to me (these days) than “WLL” — but I don’t have any other data to back up why. If someone has a Mediabase subscription or whatever, we could look up which song gets more airplay.

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

Obviously, it doesn't. I just don't think "Immigrant Song" was Led Zeppelin's #2 biggest hit, signature song, whatever, for most of my lifetime, which is what the thread is about. I doubt even they would have said so.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

Like, WLL was their go-to encore track live p much from the time it was released. I think they dropped "Immigrant Song" from their live show after a few years.

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

I hear you, though I don’t think they’ve played a show in a while (LOL).

I think we’re acknowledging the same thing, it just doesn’t seem like a mystery in this case; like “Harness Your Hopes” as the most-streamed Pavement song (for example).

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Monday, 10 August 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

my very unscientific data:
102.9 MGK and 92.1 have played Immigrant Song today, but not WLL
Q104.3 has played Immigrant Song 2 times, but not WLL

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

Yeah, movie placement explained it. xp

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link

I was pretty sure "Cat Scratch Fever" would be Ted Nugent's biggest song. But no, "Stranglehold" beats it by 65 million streams.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

O_O

magnet of the elk park (Sund4r), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

okay, THAT one's weird to me

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 August 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link

Yep, that's very weird.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

It's in Dazed and Confused...twice.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link

Also still a CR Radio staple.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

sure, but it's eight minutes long and mostly instrumental - hardcore CR, not so crossovery, whereas "cat scratch fever," also in regular rotation, is conventionally hooky and compact. i've definitely heard it many many more times in my life.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 August 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

the mostly-instrumentalness of it all might make it easier for listeners to reckon with the fact they're listening to a song by crazy pants ted nugent

mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 August 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

^^Bingo. Also probably figures in on a ton of "Classic Rock Guitar/Drums/Epic's/Road Trip Jams etc." playlists.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

Speaking tho of hooky and compact, "Immigrant Song" boasts Zep's most famous hook in a handy 2:26 package.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

where do you get cross platform streaming stats? “stranglehold” is the first song on Spotify’s official Ted Nugent playlist, a lot of people just listen to one song and move on I think

brimstead, Monday, 10 August 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

epic guitar jams playlists is a pretty plausible theory tbh

Doctor Casino, Monday, 10 August 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link


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