It's The Pleasure Princi-POLL -- ILM Artist Poll #103 -- JANET JACKSON Results Thread

1	Escapade	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	2123.5	31
2	Love Will Never Do (Without You)	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	1928.5	32
3	Empty	The Velvet Rope	1997	1764.5	25
4	If	janet.	1993	1709.5	28
5	When I Think Of You	Control	1986	1667.5	31
6	Go Deep	The Velvet Rope	1997	1625.5	29
7	That's The Way Love Goes	janet.	1993	1625.5	27
8	The Pleasure Principle	Control	1986	1561	26
9	What Have You Done For Me Lately	Control	1986	1554	26
10	All For You	All For You	2001	1496.5	28
11	Rhythm Nation	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	1492.5	27
12	Nasty	Control	1986	1485	27
13	Miss You Much	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	1423	25
14	Someone To Call My Lover	All For You	2001	1364.5	24
15	Control	Control	1986	1352	24
16	Together Again	The Velvet Rope	1997	1309	24
17	Alright	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	1251.5	26
18	Any Time, Any Place	janet.	1993	1105.5	21
19	Got 'Til It's Gone	The Velvet Rope	1997	1004.5	20
20	I Get Lonely	The Velvet Rope	1997	991.5	20
21	You Want This	janet.	1993	970	20
22	All Nite (Don't Stop)	Damita Jo	2004	937.5	20
23	No Sleeep	Unbreakable	2015	919.5	20
24	Runaway	Design of a Decade	1996	912	19
25	Doesn't Really Matter	The Nutty Professor II: The Klumps	2000	903.5	17
26	Because Of Love	janet.	1993	842	17
27	Night	Unbreakable	2015	786.5	15
28	When We Oooo	All For You	2001	784.5	16
29	Come Back To Me	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	772	16
30	You	The Velvet Rope	1997	710.5	14
31	Throb	janet.	1993	689	15
32	Strawberry Bounce	Damita Jo	2004	656	16
33	Velvet Rope	The Velvet Rope	1997	652	13
34	Let's Wait Awhile	Control	1986	649	13
35	Black Cat	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	575.5	11
36	Rock With U	Discipline	2008	561	12
37	Free Xone	The Velvet Rope	1997	559	13
38	The Best Things in Life Are Free	with Luther Vandross	1992	544	11
39	SloLove	Damita Jo	2004	521	12
40	My Need	The Velvet Rope	1997	505	12
41	Lonely	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	483	10
42	What's It Gonna Be?!	with Busta Rhymes	1999	473	9
43	Someday Is Tonight	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	465	11
44	Again	janet.	1993	456	11
45	Dammn Baby	Unbreakable	2015	441.5	10
46	Broken Hearts Heal	Unbreakable	2015	432.5	10
47	This Time	janet.	1993	429	9
48	Anything	The Velvet Rope	1997	428.5	9
49	State Of The World	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	418	10
50	R&B Junkie	Damita Jo	2004	401	11
51	Funny How Time Flies (When You're Having Fun)	Control	1986	384	9
52	Trust A Try	All For You	2001	375	11
53	Rope Burn	The Velvet Rope	1997	374	9
54	Feels So Right	All For You	2001	368	8
55	Unbreakable	Unbreakable	2015	353	8
56	What About	The Velvet Rope	1997	335.5	6
57	Diamonds	with Herb Alpert	1987	332	6
58	Whoops Now	janet.	1993	327	9
59	Luv	Discipline	2008	318	7
60	Truth	All For You	2001	308	6
61	New Agenda	janet.	1993	303	7
62	China Love	All For You	2001	290	5
63	The Great Forever	Unbreakable	2015	282	8
64	I Want You	Damita Jo	2004	279	7
65	2Nite	Discipline	2008	271	7
66	Take Care	20 Y.O.	2006	266	7
67	Better Days	All For You	2001	264	6
68	Feedback	Discipline	2008	264	5
69	Would You Mind	All For You	2001	257	5
70	Every Time	The Velvet Rope	1997	256	7
71	Like You Don't Love Me	Damita Jo	2004	255	5
72	Funky Big Band	janet.	1993	253.5	6
73	Come On Get Up	All For You	2001	248	5
74	Say You Do	Janet Jackson	1982	247.5	7
75	Love Scene (Ooh Baby)	All For You	2001	238	5
76	Rollercoaster	Discipline	2008	236	6
77	Enjoy	20 Y.O.	2006	222	5
78	Daybreak	20 Y.O.	2006	215	6
79	After You Fall	Unbreakable	2015	207	5
80	Scream	with Michael Jackson	1995	207	4
81	Damita Jo	Damita Jo	2004	200.5	4
82	Fast Girls	Dream Street	1984	197.5	6
83	Tonight's The Night	The Velvet Rope	1997	175	3
84	Son Of A Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You)	All For You	2001	172	4
85	2 B Loved	Unbreakable	2015	168	4
86	Do It 2 Me	20 Y.O.	2006	167	6
87	The Body That Loves You	janet.	1993	167	4
88	Moist	Damita Jo	2004	163	4
89	Black Eagle	Unbreakable	2015	152.5	5
90	Can't B Good	Discipline	2008	146	4
91	He Doesn't Know I'm Alive	Control	1986	137	3
92	Warmth	Damita Jo	2004	136	3
93	You Ain't Right	All For You	2001	134	3
94	And On and On	Remixed	1994	131	3
95	Shoulda Known Better	Unbreakable	2015	128	3
96	Young Love	Janet Jackson	1982	125	3
97	Come Give Your Love To Me	Janet Jackson	1982	125	2
98	Sexhibition	Damita Jo	2004	123	3
99	Just A Little While	Damita Jo	2004	123	2
100	Livin' In A World (They Didn't Make)	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	122	3
101	Don't Stand Another Chance	Dream Street	1984	120	3
102	Where Are You Now	janet.	1993	111	4
103	What'll I Do	janet.	1993	109	2
104	Truly	Damita Jo	2004	106	4
105	Spending Time With You	Damita Jo	2004	102.5	3
106	Special	The Velvet Rope	1997	100	3
107	Lessons Learned	Unbreakable	2015	99	3
108	You'll Never Find (A Love Like Mine)	Janet Jackson	1982	98	2
109	Pretty Boy	Dream Street	1984	96	3
	You Can Be Mine	Control	1986	96	3
111	Well Traveled	Unbreakable	2015	84.5	2
112	My Baby	Damita Jo	2004	82	2
113	Island Life	Damita Jo	2004	81	2
114	Pops Up!	Unreleased	2004	68	1
115	Make Me	Number Ones	2009	66	2
116	The Knowledge	Rhythm Nation 1814	1989	65	2
117	Girlfriend/Boyfriend	with Blackstreet	1999	65	1
118	Making Love in the Rain	with Herb Alpert	1987	62	1
119	Call On Me	20 Y.O.	2006	56	1
120	Dream Street	Dream Street	1984	54	1
121	Feel It Boy	with Beenie Man	2002	51	1
122	Start Anew	Japanese Single	1985	45	1
123	Made For Now	with Daddy Yankee	2018	43	1
	Roll Witchu	20 Y.O.	2006	43	1
125	Discipline	Discipline	2008	40	2
	Put Your Hands On	Damita Jo (Japanese Version)	2004	40	2
	With U	20 Y.O.	2006	40	2
128	BurnItUp!	Unbreakable	2015	39	1
129	Dream Maker/Euphoria	Unbreakable	2015	34	1
130	All My Love To You	Dream Street	1984	20	1
	Can't Be Stopped	The Velvet Rope	1997	20	1
	Let Me Know	Discipline (Japanese Version)	2008	20	1
	So Excited	20 Y.O.	2006	20	1
	Take Me Away	Unbreakable	2015	20	1
	Thinkin' 'Bout My Ex	Damita Jo	2004	20	1

ahh man, not even mad at that top two.

lol sorry for my typos on a few of these banners.

great top two. escapade is a perfect song. wonder what percentage of the top 77 was produced by jam n lewis.

Aw, Daybreak @ 78. Such a great song.

i was bummed about tonights the night just missing out

SHOCKED that I'm the only vote for "BURNITUP!" (also "Thinkin' 'Bout My Ex", which I get)

And beautiful top three (LWND my #1, "Empty" my #3 and Escapade my #4). Somehow I thought "Any Time, Any Place" would go higher

(goes through songs with single votes)

only one of them was mine. nice.

I would’ve liked to see a few more tracks from the first two albums or a couple B-sides slip in there, but it’s pretty impossible to argue with the top 20. She had great singles.

Surprised Miss You Much was so low, just sang along to that one at the grocery store earlier this afternoon

Thanks Spottie for the images! (I was way too distracted this week to be reliable on typos.)

my pleasure (principle). thanks for running it. lovely results and poll.

thank you for like the eighty seventh time eric. this was super fun from the start. it's also made re-realize that janet is one of the defining aspects of my musical mind. she was so amazing with such brilliant material at the perfect times in my life and i guess i've sort of forgot that over the years.

sentimental story crap (feel free to skip to next post):
when i first moved down to southern california five years ago, i was in a place i didn't understand, having to navigate streets i didn't understand, going to talk to people i didn't understand. i was consuming a lot of new music in those days, but the barnes and noble that i knew how to get to had catalogue cds for stupidly cheap; like fucking neil young on the beach for $4.99. just massive finds for people to discover or resdiscover. i went in one day with one thing in mind: music that made me happy. as the walking cliche that i am, that was the music of my childhood and early adolescence. and janet was there very often. so many of those rhythm nation songs are so powerful in the mind of a child.

as we get older, we get cynical. we think of pop songs as nothing more than a clever marketing tactic to get us consumers to, y'know, spend. but the way she always just seemed to absorb, accurately translate, and transcend some of the most innovative music ever in a thing of awe. and she always felt natural in that role. let's get to it: she was so fucking cool. just. . . man. maybe it is all just a clever marketing tactic and it totally worked on me because i picked up control and rhythm nation that day, for something like $12 after sales tax.

all i know is that, when i hear some of these songs now, i remember that wise beginner's mind of a ten year old: if it inspires me, it inspires me.

anyway. brilliant poll and rollout. cheers.

thank you for running this, it's been great! really what an incredible discography. absolutely convinced she's the best pop star there ever was now

ballots?

Escapade
Together Again
When I Think of You
All for You
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Nasty
Any Time, Any Place
State of the World
Doesn’t Really Matter
Night
Empty
Lessons Learned
When We Oooo
Miss You Much
What Have You Done for Me Lately?
Feels So Right
Rhythm Nation
The Pleasure Principle
Someone To Call My Lover
Control
Go Deep
If
Daybreak
Luv
Broken Hearts Heal
Funny How Time Flies (When You’re Having Fun)
You Want This
Son of a Gun
Got Til It’s Gone
The Great Forever
Say You Do
Runaway
Spending Time With You
Trust A Try
This Time
Rock With U
Every Time
And On and On
Take Care
Truly

ALBUMS
All For You
Control
Rhythm Nation 1814
The Velvet Rope
Unbreakable

mine. . .

Albums:
1. Rhythm Nation
2. Control
3. All for You
4. Discipline
5. Unbreakable

Songs:
1. Rhythm Nation
2. Got Til It's Gone
3. Doesn't Really Matter
4. Nasty
5. Alright
6. What's it Gonna Be (with Busta Rhymes)
7. All for You
8. If
9. Love Will Never Do Without You
10. Night
11. Escapade
12. What Have You Done for Me Lately
13. That's the Way Love Goes
14. When I Think of You
15. Scream (with Michael Jackson)
16. LUV
17. Dream Street
18. Any Time, Any Place
19. Son of a Gun
20. Funny How Time Flies
21. Control
22. Rollercoaster
23. SloLove
24. Enjoy
25. Together Again
26. Rock With U
27. When We Oooo
28. I Get Lonely
29. No Sleeep
30. After You Fall

. . .the only one i would want to take back is 'scream.' don't know why. just have reconsidered, i suppose.

Love Will Never Do (Without You)
When I Think of You
Nasty
Escapade
The Best Things in Life Are Free
Someone To Call My Lover
Whoops Now
What Have You Done For Me Lately
Come Back to Me
If
Empty
Control
All for You
You Want This
Miss You Much
Go Deep
Runaway
Rhythm Nation
The Pleasure Principle
Together Again
Alright
Black Cat
Let's Wait Awhile
Free Xone
Any Time, Any Place

Thanks, Eric!

oh wow it all happened

“THATS THE END!?”

I have one anecdote about “If” and why I love it so much that I would have shared at the appropriate moment in the rollout but welp

I visited the US for the first time in 1993 through school, and spent 10 days in Grand Rapids MI billetted with a local sponsor family & attending high school with the sponsor-family girl my age. On my first day at my first ever American High School™️ I got to watch their pom-pom squad’s dance rehearsal in the gym.

Their whole rehearsal was to “If” and it was so great I nearly lost my shit. (Crazy now to think about, since the lyrics are O_O but whatever)
They incorprated a lot of those same awesome angular moves as JJ’s original choreo

anyway to this day whenever I hear it, i think of those killer girls dancing their asses off in formation & praise the lord fod giving me THE best American High School™️ memory from that trip

~end~

That's The Way Love Goes
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
If
Empty
Go Deep
Escapade
Doesn't Really Matter
Trust A Try
Come On Get Up
When I Think Of You
Lonely
Better Days
My Need
Someone To Call My Lover
Runaway
Together Again
Come Back To Me
The Body That Loves You
When We Oooo
The Pleasure Principle
Black Cat
Truth
Special
Funny How Time Flies (When You're Having Fun)
Again

thanks for the story, veg. 'if' rules\m/

:D

—VIDEOS—
Videos
When I Think Of You
Go Deep
Got Til Its Gone
Rhythm Nation long-form video
That's The Way Love Goes
Alright
Love Will Never Do Without You
If
Escapade
Doesn't Really Matter

—INTERLUDES—
Speaker Phone
2wayforyou
Let's Dance
Intro (All For You)
Back

—ALBUMS—
The Velvet Rope
Rhythm Nation 1814
Control
janet.
Unbreakable

—TRACKS—
Empty
Escapade
Runaway
Together Again
New Agenda
Love Will Never Do Without You
Control
Rhythm Nation
When I Think Of You
Miss You Much
Nasty
What'll I Do
Free Xone
You
The Pleasure Principle
Unbreakable
Alright
You Want This
Throb
If
What Have You Done For Me Lately
Rock With U
That's The Way Love Goes
Night
Someone To Call My Lover
Say You Do
Got Til Its Gone
Go Deep
I Get Lonely
You Ain't Right
Pretty Boy
Fast Girls
Don't Stand Another Chance
Any Time, Any Place
Whoops, Now
Feedback
Sexhibition
Where Are You Now
Doesn't Really Matter
Strawberry Bounce
SloLove
All For You

i'm kinda surprised "when i think of you" was the highest placing track from control, it's never been a standout to me in the way that "the pleasure principle" and "what have i done for you lately" are

Great job!

ALBUMS
1
The Velvet Rope
janet.
Rhythm Nation 1814
All For You
Damita Jo
5

INTERLUDES
1
Speaker Phone
T.V.
Are You Still Up
Intro (All For You)
Let's Dance
5

TRAX
1
love will never do (without you)
empty
any time, any place
escapade
when i think of you
velvet rope
would you mind
that's the way love goes
all for you
go deep
---
if
rhythm nation
together again
someone to call my lover
i get lonely
control
rope burn
free xone
someday is tonight
you
---
all nite (don't stop)
when we oooo
let's wait awhile
runaway
miss you much
warmth
nasty
i want you
because of love
strawberry bounce
---
throb
BURNITUP!
slolove
dammn baby
anything
the best things in life are free
again
LUV
rock with u
you want this
state of the world
---
trust a try
take me away
got 'til it's gone
thinkin' bout my ex
whoops now
45

Thanks Eric and Spottie! Amazing poll, amazing images, and the top ten (really top twenty (really top thirty (really top forty (really top fifty)))) is unfuckwithable.

ALBUMS:

The Velvet Rope
Rhythm Nation 1814
Control
Janet.
Unbreakable

SONGS:

Escapade
Empty
If
Nasty
Miss You Much
What Have You Done For Me Lately?
That's The Way Love Goes
You
Someone to Call My Lover
Rhythm Nation
Control
Go Deep
All 4 U
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Doesn't Really Matter
Rock With U
Runaway
All Nite (Don't Stop)
Night
You Want This
I Get Lonely
When I Think Of You
2nite
Should've Known Better
Alright
Dammn Baby
Any Time, Any Place
The Pleasure Principle
The Great Forever
Got 'Til It's Gone
This Time
State of the World
Because of Love
R&B Junkie
No Sleeep
Trust A Try
Strawberry Bounce
Black Eagle
Someday is Tonight
Velvet Rope
After You Fall
Better Days
Where Are You Now
Let's Wait Awhile
The Knowledge
New Agenda
Come Back To Me
My Need
Slo Love
When We Oooo
The Best Things In Life Are Free
Throb
Come On Get Up
Whoops Now
Can't B Good
Say You Do
Funky Big Band
Anything
Again
Daybreak
Together Again
Fast Girls
Spending Time With You
You Ain't Right
Pretty Boy
You Can Be Mine
Let Me Know
Take Care
Rollercoaster

Obviously the anecdote about "If" being a favourite song ever wasn't mine given I only voted it number 3 - maybe it was a Brad post?

ridiculously perfect list of songs, Janet 4ever

ALBUMS

1. Rhythm Nation 1814
2. The Velvet Rope
3. Damita Jo
4. All For You
5. Control

TRACKS

1. If
2. SloLove
3. Take Care
4. Go Deep
5. Escapade
6. All For You
7. Rock With U
8. Love Will Never Do (Without You)
9. Feels So Right
10. All Nite (Don't Stop)
11. Lonely
12. Warmth
13. Empty
14. The Pleasure Principle
15. That's The Way Love Goes
16. Night
17. When We Oooo
18. Velvet Rope
19. Like You Don't Love Me
20. I Get Lonely
21. You
22. Strawberry Bounce
23. Truth
24. Together Again
25. What Have You Done For Me Lately
26. R&B Junkie
27. Miss You Much
28. You Can Be Mine
29. Dammn Baby
30. When I Think Of You
31. The Great Forever
32. Do It 2 Me
33. No Sleeep
34. This Time
35. Doesn't Really Matter
36. Black Eagle
37. Someone To Call My Lover
38. Come Back To Me
39. Daybreak
40. Trust A Try

Tracks:

The Pleasure Principle
If
Escapade
Miss You Much
Empty
What Have You Done For Me Lately
That's The Way Love Goes
Diamonds
Alright
Lonely
And On And On
Velvet Rope
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Runaway
Throb
Come Back To Me
Go Deep
All Nite (Don't Stop)
Rhythm Nation
Together Again
When I Think Of You
All For You
This Time
My Need
State Of The World
The Knowledge
Nasty
You Want This
The Best Things In Life Are Free
Black Cat
Let's Wait Awhile
R&B Junkie
I Get Lonely
Control
Because Of Love
Any Time, Any Place

Remixes:

Miss You Much (Oh I Like That Mix)
Alright (CJ Mackintosh House Mix)
If (Brothers In Rhythm House Mix)
Nasty (Cool Summer Mix)
Throb (Morales Bad Yard Club)
That's The Way Love Goes (CJ FXTC Club Mix)
R&B Drunkie - Mark E
Escapade (Shep's Housecapade Remix)
You Want This (E Smoove's House Anthem)
Rhythm Nation (12" House Nation Mix)

I haven't been able to get as involved in this poll as much as I'd like this week but it was still a lot of fun to follow and there's barely a weak song here. Empty and Escapade were both in my top three so I'm delighted with the result.

Thanks for putting this together Eric.

My lists:

Tracks

1. Doesn’t Really Matter
2. Escapade
3. Empty
4. Someone To Call My Lover
5. When I Think Of You
6. That’s The Way Love Goes
7. He Doesn’t Know I’m Alive
8. Runaway
9. The Pleasure Principle
10. State Of The World
11. Better Days
12. When We Oooo
13. Come Back To Me
14. Control
15. Because Of Love
16. Truth
17. What Have You Done For Me Lately
18. I Want You
19. Love Will Never Do Without You
20. Any Time, Any Place
21. Whoops Now
22. China Love
23. You
24. Slolove
25. Nasty
26. The Body That Loves You
27. Love Scene (Ooh Baby)
28. Someday Is Tonight
29. All Nite (Don’t Stop)
30. New Agenda
31. All For You
32. I Get Lonely
33. No Sleeep
34. Lonely
35. Alright
36. Truly
37. Rhythm Nation
38. R&B Junkie
39. Velvet Rope
40. My Need

Albums
1. Control
2. All For You
3. Rhythm Nation
4. Janet
5. Damita Jo

my ballot:
Empty
Escapade
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
The Best Things In Life Are Free
Velvet Rope
What About
Rhythm Nation
Any Time, Any Place
That's The Way Love Goes
All For You
Someone To Call My Lover
The Pleasure Principle
What Have You Done For Me Lately
Night
Because Of Love
Come On Get Up
If
Throb
Come Back to Me
Alright
This Time
Dammn Baby
You
Better Days
Lonely
Rope Burn
Someday Is Tonight
Together Again
Got 'til It's Gone
You Want This
Well Traveled
The Great Forever
Where Are You Now
No Sleeep
Go Deep
Unbreakable
State Of The World
Miss You Much
Nasty
(unranked portion):
Let's Wait Awhile
The Body That Loves You
When I Think of You
Whoops Now
Free Xone
Special
Strawberry Bounce
Control
I Get Lonely
Broken Hearts Heal

albums:
The Velvet Rope
Rhythm Nation 1814
Janet
Unbreakable
Control

Was I the only one who didn't vote for "Escapade"?

Tracks:

Together Again
What Have You Done for Me Lately
Empty
If
Velvet Rope
Let's Wait Awhile
Anything
That's the Way Love Goes
Come Back to Me
Nasty
When I Think of You
Livin in a World (They Didn't Make)
Miss You Much
Broken Hearts Heal
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Every Time
Would You Mind
Go Deep
The Pleasure Principle
All For You
Moist
Love Scene (Ooh Baby)
Someday Is Tonight
I Want You
Control
Alright
After You Fall
I Get Lonely
Again
Dammn Baby
Got Til It's Gone
Rhythm Nation
Throb
All Nite (Don't Stop)
Funky Big Band
Rope Burn
The Great Forever
Strawberry Bounce
Warmth
What's It Gonna Be (Busta Rhymes ft Janet Jackson)

Albums:

The Velvet Rope
Rhythm Nation 1814
janet.
Unbreakable
Control

I'm not nearly as hardcore as the rest of you, but "When I Think of You" is actually an important song in my personal timeline as a listener: #1 on my year-end in a year where I started working at a downtown record store, rediscovered Top 40 after a decade away (True Blue and Please were also big at the time), and, at least for a few years, drifted away from all the Michael Azzerad stuff that had dominated my life for the first half of the decade.

1. "When I Think of You"
2. "Escapade"
3. "The Best Things in Life Are Free"
4. "Love Will Never Do (Without You)"
5. "Alright"
6. "All for You"
7. "Let's Wait Awhile"
8. "Come Back to Me"
9. "Making Love in the Rain"
10. "Got 'til It's Gone"

kind of surprised to see "lonely" absent/low down on most lists! assumed it was canonical

underrated bop i didn't vote for but feel like deserves more: "what's ur name"

"can't b good" and "never letchu go" as well. so much generic goodness on discipline

For years I've tried to figure out my aversion to Discipline. It's competent and, as uberweiss notes, generically good for the most part. Then I realized what made it generic: Jackson has no writing credits. I've always been fascinated by how the Jackson-Jam-Lewis axis writes songs. But when her name's not in the credits I can hear the absence.

my basic, RN1814-top-heavy list:

01 Love Will Never Do (Without You)
02 Miss You Much
03 Escapade
04 What Have You Done For Me Lately?
05 Black Cat
06 Rhythm Nation
07 Together Again
08 Go Deep
09 All For You
10 That’s the Way Love Goes
11 Nasty
12 The Pleasure Principle
13 Say You Do
14 Control
15 Someone to Call My Lover
16 I Get Lonely
17 You
18 Alright
19 Strawberry Bounce
20 Unbreakable

TRACKS

(Top 40)

If
Escapade
Empty
The Pleasure Principle
Alright
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Got 'Til It's Gone
Come Back To Me
Together Again
What Have You Done For Me Lately

Funky Big Band
No Sleeep
You Want This
Rhythm Nation
You
All For You
Lonely
Runaway
All Nite (Don't Stop)
Someday Is Tonight

Because Of Love
After You Fall
Feels So Right
Feedback
When We Oooo
Doesn't Really Matter
When I Think Of You
The Best Things in Life Are Free
Anything
Go Deep

That's The Way Love Goes
R&B Junkie
And On and On
Night
Someone To Call My Lover
Make Me
Rock With U
SloLove
Free Xone
Throb

(Bonus Tracks)

Broken Hearts Heal
Can't Be Stopped
Do It 2 Me
Fast Girls
Funny How Time Flies (When You're Having Fun)
Livin' In A World (They Didn't Make)
My Need
Put Your Hands On
Say You Do
Strawberry Bounce
This Time
What's It Gonna Be?!
Whoops Now

ALBUMS

The Velvet Rope
Rhythm Nation 1814
janet.
All For You
Unbreakable

MUSIC VIDEOS

Love Will Never Do (Without You)
Got 'til It's Gone
Alright
If
Rhythm Nation
The Pleasure Principle
Feedback
Doesn't Really Matter
Scream
All Nite (Don't Stop)

REMIXES

Go Deep (Masters At Work Remix)
Diamonds (Cool Summer Mix)
If (Adult Radio Mix)
Call On Me (Disclosure Remix)
If (Kaytranada Remix)

INTERLUDES

T.V.
Livin'... In Complete Darkness
Speaker Phone
Promise
Pledge

the top ten (really top twenty (really top thirty (really top forty (really top fifty)))) is unfuckwithable.

Yes!

absolutely convinced she's the best pop star there ever was now

Double yes!

BTW, no shade on Spottie, but I've done a Spotify playlist that ranks them from #1 down... https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5pIVl2jRHvTwgdJd07BC55?si=YKT0cgH0QYqPUE2_dGup3w

For years I've tried to figure out my aversion to Discipline. It's competent and, as uberweiss notes, generically good for the most part. Then I realized what made it generic: Jackson has no writing credits. I've always been fascinated by how the Jackson-Jam-Lewis axis writes songs. But when her name's not in the credits I can hear the absence.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 August 2020 16:16 (five hours ago) link

I feel like this is an explanation that makes sense as a retrofitted explanation and perhaps with respect to "Feedback" (which wears its contemporary trend-chasing on its sleeve) specifically, and maybe "LUV".

But songs like "Can't B Good" or "Greatest X Ever" or "Let Me Know" feel incredibly of a piece with the songwriting approach of the previous three albums (and in the case of the first and third of those, are better than most of the material on the previous two albums), and something like "Rock With U" is spot-on frothy Janet. Is there a more Janet line for a disco bop than "Strobe lights make everything.... sexier..."?

It feels like a more Janet album (as well as a better album) than 20 y.o., which then somewhat undermines the proposition that the issue is writing credits.

absolutely convinced she's the best pop star there ever was now

I reached the conclusion privately at the time but quashed it because #auteurism.

I'm even less a fan of 20 y.o.

Even as measured against her most obvious contemporaneous rival, I don't consider her the equal of Madonna.

Her reticence as a public figure and disinterest in theory and self-mythology may work against her, and I like not love many of her videos, but as a singles force between 1986-2004 she matches Madonna.