It's The Pleasure Princi-POLL -- ILM Artist Poll #103 -- JANET JACKSON Results Thread

yeah i hadn't either. amazing!

i cried when the cops arrested the old white guy instead of the street dancers at the end

lol I read that the wrong way at first

Haha, me too. Yeesh.

4. RHYTHM NATION (1989; 39 points; 3 votes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAwaNWGLM0c

how was that not #1!

(BTW, that's the single song video, not the VHS "LP" thing.)

Sorry, forgot to include 1 first-place vote for both "When I Think Of You" and "Rhythm Nation."

03. LOVE WILL NEVER DO (WITHOUT YOU) (1990; 47 points; 4 votes; 1 first-place vote)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63zEDkg351c

02. ALRIGHT (1990; 48 points; 4 votes; 1 first-place vote)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8UidwWPin4

01. GOT 'TIL IT'S GONE (1997; 56 points; 4 votes; 1 first-place vote)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn6KpNLbUFk

what in the world

i think "love will never do {without you)" would have been my #1. so simple and beautiful - salt flats, bodies, light

I didn't give "Got 'Til It's Gone" it's first-place vote, but I absolutely endorse it in the top spot tbh.

And now for albums, which had waaaaay more participation.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Janet_Jackson_20_Y.O..png

09. 20 Y.O. (2006; 6 points; 1 vote)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/34/Janet_Jackson_Discipline.png

08. DISCIPLINE (2008; 7 points; 1 vote)

My big albums question: given all the stumping in the voting thread, can Damito Jo overtake a classic (All For You, janet., Control?) and make it into the Top 5?

i mentioned this in the voting thread, but 'got til it's gone' was such a huge moment for me and the video is burned into my memory. i didn't submit a videos ballot, but that would have been my #1 if i had.

hey! i was the one vote for discipline!

I suppose the fact I was one of the 3 who voted for remixes but didn't vote for albums reveals the type of Janet fan I am. Still excited for the tracks rundown and enjoyed the deep dive

But some of those 90s house remixes really are among the finest examples of the form

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c9/Janet_Jackson_-_Damita_Jo.png

07. DAMITA JO (2004; 63 points; 9 votes)

xp to or something: so, when this is all rolled out, you wanna share a playlist or recommend some good ones?

because i'm admittedly very ignorant on most of her remixes and would like to not be.

My big albums question: given all the stumping in the voting thread, can Damito Jo overtake a classic (All For You, janet., Control?) and make it into the Top 5?

Not quite, as it turned out ... but for a little while it got close.

i didn't vote for damita jo, but i did enjoy listening to it a few times. she's certainly got better albums, but it's way better than its reputation. like, its reputation would have one believe that it's not even listenable past a couple songs and that's really not the case.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c6/Janet_Jackson_-_Unbreakable_%28Official_Album_Cover%29.png

06. UNBREAKABLE (2015; 82 points; 13 votes)

Xp to Austin

This was my ballot:

Miss You Much (Oh I Like That Mix)
Alright (CJ Mackintosh House Mix)
If (Brothers In Rhythm House Mix)
Nasty (Cool Summer Mix)
Throb (Morales Bad Yard Club)
That's The Way Love Goes (CJ FXTC Club Mix)
R&B Drunkie - Mark E
Escapade (Shep's Housecapade Remix)
You Want This (E Smoove's House Anthem)
Rhythm Nation (12" House Nation Mix)

All apart from the CJ Mackintosh House Mix of Alright are on Spotify, here's a link to the YouTube of that one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EaI954eZqdg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Janet_Jackson_-_All_for_You_%28album%29.png

05. ALL FOR YOU (2001; 110 points; 14 votes)

Of all the albums I came back to for review in this poll, I think All for You is the one that most pleasantly surprised me. So many songs that I had written off as B-minus Jam/Lewis/Jackson material, so many songs right up there with the peaks of the prior four studio albums.

Same here.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/Janetperiod1993.png

04. janet. (1993; 114 points; 15 votes)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/ff/Janet_Jackson_-_Control.png

03. CONTROL (1986; 181points; 22 votes; 8 first-place votes)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Janet_Jackson_Rhythm_Nation_1814.png

02. RHYTHM NATION 1814 (1989; 192 points; 22 votes; 3 first-place votes)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/The_Velvet_Rope.png

01. THE VELVET ROPE (1997; 199 points; 22 votes; 11 first-place votes)

As you can see, the top three were basically jostling positions for the entirety of the balloting period.

wow

I ultimately voted for Unbreakable as my number 5 choice over All For You, but it was incredibly close.

Top 4 is the same as my ordering. Very close results for the top 3!

I ultimately voted for Unbreakable as my number 5 choice over All For You, but it was incredibly close.

Top 4 is the same as my ordering. Very close results for the top 3!

All for You had a first-place vote (from me) I believe? I could never be convinced it's not her best at this point, much as I love that top four.

Crap, yup, All For You actually had two first-place votes. No other album had any first-place votes, tho if I’m to be honest, on any other day I could’ve tossed my top spot to janet.

boooo!!! no way is velvet rope her best album!

here's my albums ballot:

1. Rhythm Nation
2. Control
3. All for You
4. Discipline
5. Unbreakable

also,

Miss You Much (Oh I Like That Mix)
Alright (CJ Mackintosh House Mix)
If (Brothers In Rhythm House Mix)
Nasty (Cool Summer Mix)
Throb (Morales Bad Yard Club)
That's The Way Love Goes (CJ FXTC Club Mix)
R&B Drunkie - Mark E
Escapade (Shep's Housecapade Remix)
You Want This (E Smoove's House Anthem)
Rhythm Nation (12" House Nation Mix)

All apart from the CJ Mackintosh House Mix of Alright are on Spotify, here's a link to the YouTube of that one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EaI954eZqdg

― or something, Monday, August 3, 2020 4:48

awesome, thank you!

While I love a missive from Contraristan, I'm not sure I can accept remonstrations from someone who voted for Discipline ahead of Janet (and I love at least half of the former).

those are 9 amazing albums

my ballot:
1. rhythm nation 1814
2. the velvet rope
3. damita jo
4. all for you
5. control

Let's go!

https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/77.jpeg

77. ENJOY (from 20 Y.O., 2006; 222 points; 5 votes)

Beautiful art!

(Thank Spottie for stepping up on that front!)

annoying tune imo but i'm here for some 20 yo representation

Haha, I could see a 20 Y.O. stan drawing the line with "Enjoy."

https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/76.jpeg

76. ROLLERCOASTER (from Discipline, 2008; 236 points; 6 votes)

two songs i voted for so far.

also agreed: these graphics are great!

The irony is the best way to connect them with Janet would probably be through the history of YouTube, but of course that is not appropriate for school.

LET'S GO

I appreciate the effort to expose students to film and music that aren't part of their daily diet, but on the other hand if a teacher had shown my 7th grade class a video of, say, Cleo Laine on her 57th birthday I'm not sure any of us would have had a lot of context to respond. But who knows what stimuli will stick with them in the future.

I get that, obviously. Her last Top 10 single seems to have been 2001. I started teaching in 1991--it would have been like me showing them something from 1969 then.

I don't think the Cleo Laine analogy is particularly apt, though; Janet Jackson has a lot more to do with they music they listen to (if they do...) then Cleo Laine had to do with the music you listened to in grade 7. (At least that's my guess.) Anyway, you either show them or you don't; to me, the exposure is much better than deciding "They won't be interested in this" preemptively. (Also what keeps the job fun for me.)

But who knows what stimuli will stick with them in the future.

That's it. By and large, when I've run into students years later, the two things they'll remember from their year with me are these Today in Historys and going for ice cream at the end of the year. They certainly don't remember me trying to pretend like I knew something about science.

About time!

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/janet-jackson-janet-album-deluxe-anniversary-editions/

I can't believe I only placed "Throb" 40th on my ballot!

You guys I finally got to see Janet in concert last night

She was great … honestly I was kinda thrilled by the setlist & how much it covered, a few mashup-medleys fudged a few songs here & there

But honestly? Just seeing her dance with a headset mike was truly life-giving

Setlist here if anyone’s curious

Setlist
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Act I:
Jus Dance (SOLE Channel Mix)
(by Mr. V; Dancers intro)
Night
2nite
Slolove
Rock With U
Throb
All Nite (Don't Stop)
No Sleeep
Got 'til It's Gone
That's the Way Love Goes
Love Will Never Do (Without You)

Act II:
What Have You Done for Me Lately
Nasty
The Pleasure Principle
You Want This
When I Think of You
Diamonds (Herb Alpert cover)
The Best Things in Life Are Free
Control
Son of a Gun (I Betcha Think This Song Is About You)
Take Care
Let's Wait Awhile
(Contains elements of “Lonely” & “Funny How Time Flies (When You’re Having Fun)”)
Again (*crowd sings almost entire song)
Any Time, Any Place
I Get Lonely
With U

Act III:
The Body That Loves You
(Contains elements of Runaway and Spending Time With You)
Make Me
All for You
Alright
Escapade
Miss You Much
So Excited

Act IV:
Would You Mind
(Contains elements of “You Ain’t Right” & “Dammn Baby”)
State of the World
The Knowledge
If
Scream (Michael Jackson cover) (Contains elements of “If” & “Black Cat”)
Rhythm Nation

Encore:
Someone to Call My Lover
Together Again


https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/janet-jackson/2024/golden-1-center-sacramento-ca-bab79ca.html

What a stacked setlist! I’m jealous.

Btw I’m quoted in this poll as writing:

“Got til it's gone is the only Janet single I like.”

But I was trolling. I love Janet.

<3

“Empty” should have been a single. So glad it made it so high in this poll. ILM has great taste.

also Act II for Anytime Anyplace, I Get Lonely, With U … and i think some of Act III the dancers are in the long flannel kilts from her 90’s era and omgggg i was so happy

she only had 4 dudes but they were great, so sharp and well-timed & she could sort of dip in & out of the moves as she needed to