pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

I'mma step out of my passive-aggressive irony and simply state the obvious (to me): contemporary jazz is infinitely more interesting than most of the shit that gets reviewed on p4k and Coin Coin Chapter Four: Memphis, for instance, deserved way better than an 8.3. Also, Taylor Swift's music is more like a 2.0 and as much as I enjoy Fiona Apple's previous albums, Fetch the Bolt Cutters bit off more than it can chew and is more of a 7.0 in my book and certainly not deserving of its plaudits.

The Coin Coin series is literally Matana Roberts sorting through her own family's history with slavery, Jim Crow, etc. through music and multimedia art, so...yes?

C'mon unperson, you didn't seriously think I meant that sincerely.

…not that any of this really matters, of course, but how else are we supposed to shoot the shit on I Love Music?

hehe, according to this, the average contemporary jazz album reviewed by pitchfork really is close to a 8.0

https://i.imgur.com/0tNiohS.png

lol

i don't know if contemporary jazz is better now than in the past, it certainly feels like there is a lot of energy and people doing interesting things in a number of very diverse directions

shout out to the jazz thread and unperson for hipping me to a lot of it in recent years

but it could be I'm just paying attention now!

Jazz has always been good.

fwiw UMS, there have been two jazz BNMs this year with >8.0 scores, so maybe pitchfork agrees with you..

that's good! which ones?

fiona apple and bob dylan

lmao

lol

hahaha
it was the McCraven/GSH reworking and the new Jeff Parker, which both have pitchforky qualities I suppose, but are also deserved

Parker album is great but yr right Tortoise associations probably help

Parker and McCraven are both signed to International Anthem, which was the subject of a Pitchfork feature article earlier this year as a label that's "rewriting the rules of jazz."

damn, the Zara McFarlane is something else, not even remotely like what I was expecting

the title should really be changed at some point

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, July 27, 2020 11:45 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

look I know there's a lot of posts in here but we haven't hit #34985859340293849495 yet

I really liked McFarlane's first album - even interviewed her for Bandcamp - but I haven't dug into the new one yet.

look I know there's a lot of posts in here but we haven't hit #34985859340293849495 yet

i feel like a lot of people don't really understand how large numbers like these are. at our current pace, it could take over 3 years to hit #34,985,859,340,293,849,495

Still thinking about this one pic.twitter.com/V7YXzLe1Pj

— Jeremy D. Larson (@jeremydlarson) July 27, 2020

unreal

i feel like a lot of people don't really understand how large numbers like these are. at our current pace, it could take over 3 years to hit #34,985,859,340,293,849,495

― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, July 27, 2020 2:32 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't know, if we count every tweet about this well-written positive review as a post I think we're probably pretty close

oh my god @ that tweet

i am twitter illiterate, what's the joke?

Someone thinks Pfork isn't "indie" enough to appreciate the album.

Swift stans taking on the rockist mantle

they can't. . . be serious?

can they?

also Larson is P4k's reviews editor

that is amazing

xpost judging from the user's other tweets--no it is not a joke

pfork will take any attention they can get i reckon.

I think the fans are mad that the review was catalogued under pop/r&b instead of indie rock which would've generated a higher number because the reviewer would've had some expertise in indie music

I've been spending too much time in their heads today. help.

Yes, there was also some confusion that "pop/R&B" referred to Mapes's genre of expertise rather than how the album itself was classified. As I noted in the stan thread, people are similarly outraged that the New York Times let a "pop music critic" (Caramanica) review it.

twitter stans are dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

x-post

Surprised that the new Bad Brains piece doesn’t even allude to the controversy involving the band and homophobia (despite spending several paragraphs on their 1989 album which has that infamous song). Just seems like something a retrospective like this would typically attempt to wrestle with a bit.

― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Sunday, July 26, 2020 7:

The review also has a factual error: Born Paul Hudson in Liverpool, England in 1956, H.R.’s family moved to Jamaica (where he discovered reggae at age 3)

Reggae didn't exist yet in 1959, when he was 3 years old

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/bad-brains-i-against-i/

ssshhh, let the legend blossom.

didn't know h.r's entire family was born paul hudson

ssshhh, let the legend blossom.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, July 27, 2020 4:35 PM

H.R. is the hardcore Voltron

what a fucking badass title to have jeez

In 2004 my solo album got an 8.8 BNM and I received none of these things. I had to go back to my day job. https://t.co/64frrSqj1Q

— Carl Newman (@ACNewman) July 28, 2020

lol, i remember at one point i was waiting tables and an issue of a national magazine with a paragraph about my ~~bL0g~~ came out and i went to pick it up a the newsstand on my break and when I came back I showed it to the floor manager and he said "oh so are you gonna quit your day job now?"
I made lousy bank that night too

xpost lol The first response was basically, wait, wasn't your day job the New Pornographers? And his response to that was "my point is still valid."

That album remains my 2nd favourite New Pornographers-related recording fwiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2bMKnuv_-k

He's right-- it was only a handshake

I'm losing my fucking mind

we live in a society were female excellence gets paid dust pic.twitter.com/cSq0p6s9Cr

— M I A N G E L O ₁₃ (@doublemantra13) July 27, 2020

hmm, I wonder what the scores are for Styles, Bieber, Sheehan, Malone etc.

also, I mean - Bolt Cutters(?)

"10 years ago things were different."

"I don't agree because it wasn't like that 16 years ago"

"..."

^Yeah I don't get the point of the A.C. Newman tweet. Not saying the original tweet is exactly right, but Pitchfork was more influential in 2010 than 2004, no?