matana roberts too?
― imago, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
fetch the bolt cutters is a jazz-hands album
The new Zara McFarlane is really inventive
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
Does the Coin Coin series feature Rashomon-level Dawson’s Creek-type narratives? I think not.
― pomenitul, Monday, 27 July 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
I don't really know what we are talking about anymore
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link
I'm not necessarily in love w/the album, but I don't feel like the review really considers the music deeply enough (or maybe it just uses the terms "indie" once too often). I also think it probably deserved BNM, but whatevs.
― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
Jazz is really great right now
8.0 is a pretty good rating?
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
I mean, it looks like it is to me but I know absolutely nothing about the ratings on Pitchfork tbh.
The Coin Coin series is literally Matana Roberts sorting through her own family's history with slavery, Jim Crow, etc. through music and multimedia art, so...yes?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
I need to rewatch dawson's creek
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
thread finally delivers--I didn't know this was out already!
― rob, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
I'mma step out of my passive-aggressive irony and simply state the obvious (to me): contemporary jazz is infinitely more interesting than most of the shit that gets reviewed on p4k and Coin Coin Chapter Four: Memphis, for instance, deserved way better than an 8.3. Also, Taylor Swift's music is more like a 2.0 and as much as I enjoy Fiona Apple's previous albums, Fetch the Bolt Cutters bit off more than it can chew and is more of a 7.0 in my book and certainly not deserving of its plaudits.
― pomenitul, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
C'mon unperson, you didn't seriously think I meant that sincerely.
― pomenitul, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
…not that any of this really matters, of course, but how else are we supposed to shoot the shit on I Love Music?
― pomenitul, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link
hehe, according to this, the average contemporary jazz album reviewed by pitchfork really is close to a 8.0
https://i.imgur.com/0tNiohS.png
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
lol
― pomenitul, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link
i don't know if contemporary jazz is better now than in the past, it certainly feels like there is a lot of energy and people doing interesting things in a number of very diverse directionsshout out to the jazz thread and unperson for hipping me to a lot of it in recent yearsbut it could be I'm just paying attention now!
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link
Jazz has always been good.
― pomenitul, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
fwiw UMS, there have been two jazz BNMs this year with >8.0 scores, so maybe pitchfork agrees with you..
― rob, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link
that's good! which ones?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
fiona apple and bob dylan
― the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
lmao
― imago, Monday, 27 July 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
hahahait was the McCraven/GSH reworking and the new Jeff Parker, which both have pitchforky qualities I suppose, but are also deserved
― rob, Monday, 27 July 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
Parker album is great but yr right Tortoise associations probably help
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link
Parker and McCraven are both signed to International Anthem, which was the subject of a Pitchfork feature article earlier this year as a label that's "rewriting the rules of jazz."
― jaymc, Monday, 27 July 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
damn, the Zara McFarlane is something else, not even remotely like what I was expecting
― rob, Monday, 27 July 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link
the title should really be changed at some point― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, July 27, 2020 11:45 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, July 27, 2020 11:45 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
look I know there's a lot of posts in here but we haven't hit #34985859340293849495 yet
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
I really liked McFarlane's first album - even interviewed her for Bandcamp - but I haven't dug into the new one yet.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
i feel like a lot of people don't really understand how large numbers like these are. at our current pace, it could take over 3 years to hit #34,985,859,340,293,849,495
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
Still thinking about this one pic.twitter.com/V7YXzLe1Pj— Jeremy D. Larson (@jeremydlarson) July 27, 2020
― mozzy star (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
unreal
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link
― The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Monday, July 27, 2020 2:32 PM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I don't know, if we count every tweet about this well-written positive review as a post I think we're probably pretty close
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link
oh my god @ that tweet
― dyl, Monday, 27 July 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link
i am twitter illiterate, what's the joke?
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link
Someone thinks Pfork isn't "indie" enough to appreciate the album.
― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:57 (three years ago) link
Swift stans taking on the rockist mantle
― jmm, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link
they can't. . . be serious?
can they?
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link
also Larson is P4k's reviews editor
that is amazing
― alpine static, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link
xpost judging from the user's other tweets--no it is not a joke
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
pfork will take any attention they can get i reckon.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 27 July 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
I think the fans are mad that the review was catalogued under pop/r&b instead of indie rock which would've generated a higher number because the reviewer would've had some expertise in indie music
― NAthaniel (cajunsunday), Monday, 27 July 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link
I've been spending too much time in their heads today. help.
― NAthaniel (cajunsunday), Monday, 27 July 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
Yes, there was also some confusion that "pop/R&B" referred to Mapes's genre of expertise rather than how the album itself was classified. As I noted in the stan thread, people are similarly outraged that the New York Times let a "pop music critic" (Caramanica) review it.
― jaymc, Monday, 27 July 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
twitter stans are dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)
― ufo, Monday, 27 July 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
x-post
Surprised that the new Bad Brains piece doesn’t even allude to the controversy involving the band and homophobia (despite spending several paragraphs on their 1989 album which has that infamous song). Just seems like something a retrospective like this would typically attempt to wrestle with a bit.
― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Sunday, July 26, 2020 7:
The review also has a factual error: Born Paul Hudson in Liverpool, England in 1956, H.R.’s family moved to Jamaica (where he discovered reggae at age 3)
Reggae didn't exist yet in 1959, when he was 3 years old
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/bad-brains-i-against-i/
― curmudgeon, Monday, 27 July 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link
ssshhh, let the legend blossom.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 27 July 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
didn't know h.r's entire family was born paul hudson
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 27 July 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
ssshhh, let the legend blossom.― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, July 27, 2020 4:35 PM
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, July 27, 2020 4:35 PM
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link
H.R. is the hardcore Voltron
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link