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How does any other site with reviews from the public compare? Metal archives? Prog archives? I don't know many others.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:34 (five years ago)

the reviews on prog archives tend to be super wordy and often use timestamps to just describe what's happening in the music in the most literal way

frogbs, Friday, 24 July 2020 18:40 (five years ago)

the reviews on metal archives tend mainly to be 90% and up or 30% and under iirc

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:42 (five years ago)

your average metal archives review is about as good as your average rym review, which is to say bad

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:48 (five years ago)

I'd imagine many of those reviews are on both sites.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:11 (five years ago)

democracy sucks eh

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:25 (five years ago)

All Music, Album of the Year, and Metacritic all have user reviews. About the quality you'd expect. Probably more boring than RYM reviews.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:59 (five years ago)

and yet still more interesting and varied than the critics'

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:14 (five years ago)

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professional music criticism in 2020 is a circled-wagon hellscape of desperate assent and absolute fealty to the pitchfork-industrial canon

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:20 (five years ago)

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RYM is a discourse, a place of argument, of back-and-forth

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:22 (five years ago)

I think we need a 'rolling 2020 music-related challops thread'. Not being sarcastic btw.

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:23 (five years ago)

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the critics do not speak for me and they are not my people

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rym is my people

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:29 (five years ago)

pfork didn't start reviewing taylor swift albums until 2017 and she's always gotten good reviews, every time you bring up the pitchfork industrial complex you sound like someone who doesn't know what they're talking about

especially in comparison to the uhhh rampant misogyny on rym

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:30 (five years ago)

"rym is my people"

the rym katie dey score is a 75

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:33 (five years ago)

i wasn't thinking so much of the score as the 117 (and counting) ratings

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:33 (five years ago)

oh damn the ultimate metric of engagement

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:34 (five years ago)

you play yourself by looking at metacritic too

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:35 (five years ago)

it's just nice to know that someone else cares about the music i care about

obv i know metacritic is far from exhaustive i never visit it usually, just did today to let off steam and make my wack point ok lol

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:36 (five years ago)

and ftr i liked 'lover' more than i thought i would, i gave it 3/5. it's entirely possible that if the farflung cocteau twins comparisons hold water i cd give taytay another 3/5 this time around

i just don't like RYM getting dissed when it is very often the only avenue for finding out about great music

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:37 (five years ago)

There are a lot of RYM people who will give anything Taylor Swift releases a 0.5 without bothering to listen to it.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:42 (five years ago)

they're obviously awful cunts and that is the price of democracy

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:43 (five years ago)

taytay stan policy is to return in kind to kanye anyway iirc ;)

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:44 (five years ago)

xp under my benevolent rule they will be sent to the salt mines for re-education

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:44 (five years ago)

I remember once messaging some dude who gave an album that I was really looking forward to a 0.5 like 2 months before it was released and I asked him, "so uh, you've heard this?" and he was like "nah I just really hate these guys, can't explain why"

frogbs, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:45 (five years ago)

i just don't like RYM getting dissed when it is very often the only avenue for finding out about great music

Adverse reactions tend to focus on the community, which I haven't really engaged with so far beyond adding binge-prone RYMers whose tastes closely mirror my own and reading the occasional quality review by specific user(s) such as [redacted].

pomenitul, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:46 (five years ago)

and look, yes I know it's metacritic, but 'the critics' have Fetch The Bolt Cutters as AOTYSF with a 98 average rating

RYM also has it as AOTYSF, but at a healthy and debate-laden 76 lol

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:47 (five years ago)

... man, i've been on rym, nothing on there resembles "debate"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 24 July 2020 21:14 (five years ago)

this is marketplace of ideas horseshit you're purveying

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 24 July 2020 21:15 (five years ago)

yeah there's lots of bad-faith idiotic badmouthing, sure, but there are also a few thoughtful critiques, i'm willing to sift through for them

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 21:19 (five years ago)

Calling this "Progressive Pop" is a huge disrespect to Steven Wilson.

brimstead, Friday, 24 July 2020 21:23 (five years ago)

^lmao yeah i know, i know

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 21:25 (five years ago)

Aside from a few obnoxious reviews I generally find them serviceable. I don't demand huge insights or great writing, I just generally want to know what albums to get. I tend to prefer short and to the point reviews.

As many others have said, the greatest value tends to be the lists and charts.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 24 July 2020 21:42 (five years ago)

settled on a 7/10 for new taytay. her metacritic average is now like 94 ;)

imago, Friday, 24 July 2020 22:31 (five years ago)

yeah there's lots of bad-faith idiotic badmouthing, sure, but there are also a few thoughtful critiques, i'm willing to sift through for them

― imago

i mean, i've pointed this out before, but not all of us have the same luxuries.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 24 July 2020 23:52 (five years ago)

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mise róna (seandalai), Saturday, 25 July 2020 00:15 (five years ago)

I don't care about the reviews but I will often look to the charts for the best album of the year and listen to things that are highly rated that I never heard before.

I discovered IDLES that way when they released Brutalism which subsequently became one of my favorite albums and I also love the band.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 25 July 2020 01:34 (five years ago)

not all of us have the same luxuries

I get this, and often think about it when I browse less palatable websites, but it seems to me that RYM is friendlier to trans artists than most, at least if we go by the charts. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

pomenitul, Saturday, 25 July 2020 01:37 (five years ago)

and yet still more interesting and varied than the critics'

― imago

lj i mean this is really weird. i mean, you know a lot of people who post here are or were professional critics, right? i mean, i've read a lot of stuff written by folks who post here. a lot of it is really good. i mean, certainly a lot better and valuable writing than most of what passes for criticism on rym. complaining about "critical hegemony" makes about as much sense to me as complaining about the hegemony of the intersectional left. "see, look at how much people like this death grips album", and it's a sea of diametrically opposed fandoms screaming at each other, go to a shoutbox for any recently released woman artist and it probably isn't there because the mods couldn't keep track of the misogyny - i mean, is that what you mean by "interesting" and "varied"? rym is an interesting resource, a fun place to find new music, there are a couple of people there i like. hell, i went to the message forums there today, just to check them out, and of course they're unutterably awful, and i still found my way to this fucking amazing khan bootleg i didn't know existed within five minutes. that doesn't make the rym forums "my people". i don't blame pitchfork for not writing enough articles about khan bootlegs, i don't think their failure to so much as mention khan bootlegs represents some hideous failure of what you charmingly call the "pitchfork-industrial complex".

your continuing high dudgeon about pitchfork, in goddamn 2020, in favor of a site whose musical standards are mostly informed by /mu/ and the fantano-industrial complex, frankly baffles me.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 01:45 (five years ago)

I get this, and often think about it when I browse less palatable websites, but it seems to me that RYM is friendlier to trans artists than most, at least if we go by the charts. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.

― pomenitul

yeah seriously i am still on rym all the fucking time, don't get me wrong

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 25 July 2020 01:46 (five years ago)

Now I'm tempted to poll the Pitchfork-industrial complex vs. the Fantano-industrial complex.

pomenitul, Saturday, 25 July 2020 01:52 (five years ago)

which has the better IPA recommendations?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 25 July 2020 01:54 (five years ago)

this fucking amazing khan bootleg

King, or Nusrat Fateh Ali?

Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Saturday, 25 July 2020 02:11 (five years ago)

I was thinking the Steve Hillage band

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 25 July 2020 02:23 (five years ago)

Now I'm tempted to poll the Pitchfork-industrial complex vs. the Fantano-industrial complex.

― pomenitul, Friday, July 24, 2020 6:52 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i insist that you do not turn ilx into rym

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 July 2020 02:25 (five years ago)

There are polls on RYM?

pomenitul, Saturday, 25 July 2020 02:29 (five years ago)

They rate. We poll. Always remember that.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 25 July 2020 02:31 (five years ago)

literally every rym shoutbox is a TS: pitchfork-industrial complex vs. the fantano-industrial complex

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 July 2020 03:12 (five years ago)

i enjoy ilxor.com bc most of the people here do not give a shit about this

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 25 July 2020 03:13 (five years ago)

stung by my words, the PIC have only gone and given Dey a review lol

imago, Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:21 (five years ago)

"lowly underlings u may have a 7.5 so as not to upset the Great Chain of Being. now let us gird ourselves for the taytay 9.0"

imago, Saturday, 25 July 2020 10:22 (five years ago)


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