― dave q, Saturday, 14 June 2003 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)
― allison, Saturday, 14 June 2003 19:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:01 (twenty-three years ago)
Should it require more than a few CDs and singles to form an opinion of this band? If their readily available material (presumably the music the band felt most satisfied with to represent them) fails to create a favorable impression, why do you have such a seemingly damn hard time fathoming how -- for even a nanosecond -- that you may actually indeed be mistaken in your assertion that the DMB's music is anything other than bog-fucking-standard?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:07 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 14 June 2003 20:29 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Saturday, 14 June 2003 21:16 (twenty-three years ago)
If you're not going to stand by statements, might I suggest you reconsider making them in the first place. What else have we to go on other than your own words in this debate?
At the very least, I think we can all safely, heartily and cheerily agree that Linkin Park suck from a big, greasy bag of cock, right?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 14 June 2003 21:31 (twenty-three years ago)
I don't appreciate the amplification of every statement I make
Understood, but I think this is happening because you're not answering a lot of specific questions in turn. Dan, for instance, has brought up a lot that you're not apparently dealing with. Saying that you're not being understood or that you're being treated too harshly when you're not willing to engage further with what's asked is a bit of a problem -- especially if you're so single-mindedly focused on getting US to engage further with a band you like. It goes both ways.
Criticising the band for technical, lyrical, or any other intangible factors when you aren't entirely informed is a totally different animal
If people are getting annoyed with the band BECAUSE of something technical, lyrical, etc. and say so, what more do you want? It can't be intangible if it is there and they're pointing to it.
I'm not fond of a lot of bands, but if I haven't experienced them in their entirety then I do not pass jugement on them
If you aren't fond of a band you have passed a judgment. It may be a temporary one or may be one that you are wanting to note is something based on only a few things that you've heard, but it's still a judgment.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 June 2003 21:50 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 14 June 2003 21:52 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Saturday, 14 June 2003 22:44 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Saturday, 14 June 2003 22:48 (twenty-three years ago)
― J (Jay), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:15 (twenty-three years ago)
Your mom's a wall.
― Allison, Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)
― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:26 (twenty-three years ago)
― H (Heruy), Saturday, 14 June 2003 23:35 (twenty-three years ago)
― allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 00:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 00:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)
Best comeback evah.
― J (Jay), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:52 (twenty-three years ago)
I did not say that violins and woodwinds can never be in tune with each other. I sing with the Boston Symphony; I hear violins and woodwinds in tune on a regular basis. What I said was that their violin player's timbre (which more often than not sounds like Irish fiddle) doesn't match well with the saxophone. It's a "unique" sound that never really rings, gels or clicks.
I'd also like to note that you STILL haven't pointed me at any specific songs.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 15 June 2003 12:37 (twenty-three years ago)
― allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 13:41 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 June 2003 15:45 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)
― oops (Oops), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:28 (twenty-three years ago)
― The Atomic Rooster, Monday, 16 June 2003 00:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:19 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 00:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:08 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:11 (twenty-three years ago)
I said that Dave Matthews Band rarely plays in tune. I didn't say it was impossible to tune woodwinds. And really, it's only the songs where they really feature the fiddle and horns playing together that it really grates on my ears.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:30 (twenty-three years ago)
The name comes from the name of a song, One Sweet World, performed by the Dave Matthews Band (who they?).
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Ben_Jerrys_One_Sweet_Whirled__Review_5314913
― disco stu (disco stu), Monday, 16 June 2003 03:21 (twenty-three years ago)
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 03:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― Millar (Millar), Monday, 16 June 2003 03:35 (twenty-three years ago)
This may be the best reply I've ever gotten.
― oops (Oops), Monday, 16 June 2003 06:10 (twenty-three years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 12:23 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 12:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:38 (twenty-three years ago)
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)
But... what if that shit sandwich has cream filling in the middle and you won't know unless you eat a little more.Three words: Thats. Not. Cream.
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)
A guy by the name of J0hn L00 who tried to browbeat me into liking them years ago. In every single American high school and small college with a jazz band, the three 'cool guys' in the rhythm section (gtr/bs/drm) have an awful polite groovy rock band together and they inevitably will draft their one even 'cooler' poet/philosopher/rollerblader friend into playing acoustic and singing. This was J0hn L00. He was in the middle of MERELY EXPLAINING to me how 'techno' could never mean anything because it was TECHNOLOGY which could never TOUCH THE UNIVERSAL SCOPE or whatever the fuck he was saying, when (we were on a bus iirc) he asked if I liked DMB, to which I said no I most certainly do not. His respnonse: OH BUT DAVE IS JUST SO MUSICAL.
"hike up your dress a little more/ and show your world to me:" This line insenses me more than any other line from any other song ever. In any kind of just relations among the genders saying "hike...world..." would earn you derision, lawsuits, and a lonely life, and (yank away the curtain of poesy here) "LEMME SEE YOUR PUSSY" would be the gleeful playful die-rect request btw actual living bodied humans that I must believe it is. But alas that's not our world obviously, not yet, and this song isn't helping any.
I can't imagine a line more duplicitous, more violent, more ugly. It's not a world, dickhead! Yes I get it, he wants to nice-guy his way into this girl's pants, but with his cute lil met-a-phor he obliterates her subjectivity and says back to us over his shoulder "dude they're all sisters."
(god this song pisses me off) Anyone who calls your genitals "a world" is clearly a creep and pig and will never go down on you unless under extreme duress and will at that point be crap at it on purpose to spite you. You know that I am right.
(unless Dave is standing behind her which would complicate my er position a little.)
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 16 June 2003 16:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Allison, Monday, 16 June 2003 16:55 (twenty-three years ago)
― NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 16 June 2003 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)