should "Lean On Me" replace "The Star-Spangled Banner" as the US national anthem?

Kat Deluna has some pipes but seems to have pitch control issues, I'll defer to Dang's judgement

Lol xxxp

lol JD

i wish i still had that letter

This one's heartwarming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmQzVQza9Ak

Mo Cheeks was a gentleman during that

This one... is not heartwarming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNEUekIPrmU

In the related vids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SHnpWohrg0

What are people's thoughts on the Red House Painters version of the Star Spangled Banner? It's the only version of the anthem that I'll actively seek out and listen to...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QPS1Bs1lIk

Eric, that's the second video I posted!

Write-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8

the hendrix thread cited a pretty good academic article on his SSB:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-society-for-american-music/article/this-is-america-jimi-hendrixs-star-spangled-banner-journey-as-psychedelic-citizenship/0029FB312D1A8A9C61C0345C6DB59525

i think it's interesting that he originally titled it "this is america"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9nnnM-__JQ

almost clicked but nah

thank you all for justifying this poll's existence

Eric, that's the second video I posted!

Ope, scrolled too fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePQ9_re7f1A

i sang really loud
until i riled up the crowd
and then a horse fell

Can't fuck with this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3qD1jKNYaU

Without consulting social media or even reading the last 40+ posts itt I will now predict three possible reactions to this:

MAGA: Bad message! USA is not about "leaning" on anyone but picking yourself up by the bootstraps and ask not what your country can do for you and blah blah blah

Leftists: Hmm, can we make it say "call on me sister?"

Old libs: Hooray! I love Otis Redding

I keep coming back to Lean On Me has too much sadness and pathos, it's an anthem for truly the end of the world tbh

It reminds me of the argument I had with someone years ago about the end of Orbital’s “Out There Somewhere Pt 2” and how he heard it as indescribably sad because the last melodic theme is made of descending notes, even though the entire coda is in a major key after close to 20 minutes of minor key, which really just goes to show that you can build up as much theorycrafting as you desire around how people respond to musical cues and someone is going to come along to be the glaring exception to conventional wisdom

i think the real problem for "lean on me" as an anthem is that the help we offer when we sing LoM must be freely and sincerely offered for the song to have the meaning it does. once made compulsory, it loses everything. in conclusion the answer is "use me."

Excellent point

*doesn't watch a sporting event w/o belting Go Your Own Way at the top of their lungs first*

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I only just read the DJP's last post, of course "Out There Somewhere" is impossibly sad, it's longing for infinity and escape

It's tempered with other feelings tho sure

should "Take On Me" replace "Funeral Fog" as the Norwegian national anthem?

should "literally anybody else" replace "burrito" as ILX poster

should "sucking my dick" replace "smoking meth" as your mother's main mouth use

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well that took a turn.

I'll tell ya who else took a turn... if you know what I mean... and I mean on my dong... like as in took a turn going down on that shit... if you catch my drift... *high fives Austin*

the burrito that defined a generation has been banned permanently again.

*high fives Austin*

listen up, you non-social distancing asshole. . .

A vocal range of an octave plus a fifth is too hard to sing, let’s replace it with a song that has a vocal range of *checks notes* an octave plus a fourth

it's been a minute since I listened to TSSB attentively but it's not just the range that makes it hard to sing right? aren't the intervals a pain in the ass?

The sentiment that "we all need somebody to lean on" is about the least American sentiment I can imagine. Is the hope that we'd help to shift the culture?

that would be one case for it yes

right now, "Lien On Me" would be more likely to succeed

when you're not solvent
i'll loan you cash
with a good APR

Lean On In

it's been a minute since I listened to TSSB attentively but it's not just the range that makes it hard to sing right? aren't the intervals a pain in the ass?

Not really. The intervals are all either step-wise motion or arpeggios within a major key. There’s nothing harmonically challenging in the context of Western/British music. In fact, “Lean On Me” has a larger leap in it where you have to go up a major 10th to transition from the verse to the chorus than anything in the SSB.

not to mention there's something to be said for a piece of music you've heard thousands to millions of times in your life making it easier to navigate the melody, regardless of how challenging it is or isn't.

most people bomb the National Anthem not because the song is challenging, it's because they either a) have bad internal pitch and change keys unintentionally throughout the song, b) pick a key too high which will result in a comedy finish, or c) just can't fuckin' sing.

thanks for the breakdown I was coasting on iffy recall there xp

course, I'm the type of asshole who will yell "flat!" when a quartet is singing it out of tune before a soccer game

I do think the aforementioned descending sixth followed by the raised subdominant in m.3 is more challenging than anything in e.g. "O Canada" or "God Save the Queen".

Couldn't you just go up by a major third rather than a 10th from the verse to the chorus of "Lean on Me".