should "Lean On Me" replace "The Star-Spangled Banner" as the US national anthem?

Lots of people stan for "America the Beautiful" and not without reason - way too religious for me but there is the germ of a good idea in it. It's more about what the nation can become than how allegedly awesome the nation currently is.

"Confirm thy soul in self-control; thy liberty in law" = like, we know there's still some good in you, so please start showing it. We like the representative democratic aspects of the constitution, but you need to get better at actually living up to those principles. "Crown thy good with brotherhood" = the good things about you ("the better angels of our natures," one might say) need to be backed by fostering and promoting moves toward ACTUAL real equality.

Still, way too god-centric for irreligious me. Ditto "God Bless America," obv.

I would be okay with Lift Every Voice and Sing but only if DJP's recording is the only authorized version, and all lesser musicians are prohibited from even attempting it.

national anthem should be yes's version of simon's 'america' and fans should be forced to sing steve howe's guitar solo. if they bum a note, they don't really love america, do they?

Neil Diamond's America

Europe's "The Final Countdown"

Still, way too god-centric for irreligious me.

this is a major reason I like "Lean on Me"

The same could be said for "Dude Looks Like a Lady," of course

Also bc I <3 that every American has to sing a descending sixth and then go up to the raised subdominant in the third bar of their anthem xps

100% OTM

star-spangled banner isn't a banger or anything, but i appreciate the anachronisms, SAT words, bizarre syntax, and quaint contractions.

I was just informed that Americans don't actually sing this song with a range of a 12th every morning in school and just recite some pledge instead. I no longer admire the American spirit in taking on this challenge. Now I just want your anthem to be "Don't Stop Believin'" or some shit.

I would vote for "Dude Looks Like A Lady", for president even

Imagine if before every football game, the crowd rose to their feet and gave a solemn rendition of "Goodies" by Ciara

they do this in atlanta already, iirc

#actually the anthem should just be prince's solo on 'while my guitar gently weeps' at the 2004 r&rhof ceremony

the anthem should just be gentle weeping

Also bc I <3 that every American has to sing a descending sixth and then go up to the raised subdominant in the third bar of their anthem xps

Thank you! Also, everyone who can hold their hand's shape in place for more than a few seconds can play the entirety of "Lean On Me" on the piano, which means it is not good and in fact bad.

No, because I don't want "Lean on Me" being sullied by having to be the American National Anthem.

^^that is a good reason!

meanwhile "songs that are easy to play are inferior", if that is indeed the take, baffles me

Acting like you aren't aware of the existence of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkgkThdzX-8

star-spangled banner isn't a banger or anything, but i appreciate the anachronisms, SAT words, bizarre syntax, and quaint contractions.

It's been pointed out that the normally sung lyrics are, grammatically, one really long question.

this writer truly does not understand what an anthem is

― imago, Wednesday, July 15, 2020 9:54 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

He's a guy who writes about music. You may have just seen him in your local bookshop/music paper/Private Eye.

It's been pointed out that the normally sung lyrics are, grammatically, one really long question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cE6Pg2q3lI

in retrospect I should not have included an option that enables voters to make clear they hate america; stacks the deck

He's a guy who writes about music. You may have just seen him in your local bookshop/music paper/Private Eye.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:49 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i recanted that one p quickly, mea culpa

It's been pointed out that the normally sung lyrics are, grammatically, one really long question.

I humbly submit "Is That All There Is?" for consideration. Trump loves it iirc so it might even get some backing

Ok but... "What Is Love?" is also a question

Hmm.... Deee-Lite or Haddaway? Or... MASHUP?????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVgasCtUM4s

DJP: mashup, no question

Altho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=w34vnz_LEX4&feature=emb_logo

(never mind, it was Howard Jones fwiw)

"No One is to Blame" does kinda feel like this country's national anthem rn

coming from a country that doesn't really have a national anthem (Scotland) and living my life without having to ever hear an anthem regularly I really don't enjoy the mania for playing national anthems before sporting events in North America. although they're both fairly innocuous and middling as far as anthems go the one-two of o, Canada and the star spangled banner is quite loathsome.

I only like it if I'm running late to a sporting event as it lets me get to my seat before kickoff

echo the Club Nouveau 'loved it and thought it was the original when I was a kid' sentiment up thread.

folks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIOJdMdS56k

oooooh good one

kurt vonnegut once described the national anthem as "gibberish sprinkled with question marks"

"if america remade itself according to the principles of "lean on me," sure

star spangled banner sucks and we've earned it

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson)"

agree, "lean on me" would be a great anthem for a country founded and governed humanely and on humane principles. america ain't that country, never has been, never will be.

"kurt vonnegut once described the national anthem as "gibberish sprinkled with question marks"

― budo jeru"

yeah but that motherfucker was notorious for hating punctuation

Acting like you aren't aware of the existence of

― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.)

i know it exists and it's lame

john lennon wrote and recorded an actual anthem and i endorse it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYKoi122dlg

LAY DOWN THE LAW
SHOUT OUT FOR MORE
BREAKOUT AND SHOUT
DAY IN DAY OUT
BREAKOUT

― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, July 26, 2011

yeah but that motherfucker was notorious for hating punctuation

― Kate (rushomancy)

seriously calling a semicolon a "transvestite hermaphrodite" like that's some kinda fucking insult, go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut kurt

I'm kind of surprised to learn that everyone likes "Lean on Me" this much, tbh.

When I was a child I fell by happenstance into a family situation dominated by Unitarian Universalist thinking. There was a widespread joke that there was a UU hymn that went "the universe loves me, this I know, for my intellect tells me so."

I have often wanted, but never succeeded in finding or composing, an unapologetically secular and yet non-militaristic anthem. I would love it if someone could rescue the laudable sentiment from "America the Beautiful" (roughly, "we're not there yet but let's please at least try to get better").

Paul Simon's "American Tune" has some of the appropriate wistful resonance, but none of the aspiration; and in any case the tune is German (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_Sacred_Head,_Now_Wounded).

how do we feel about this take

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1QJoUxAKU8&t=1m06s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1QJoUxAKU8&t=1m06s

ok sorry

hoping that was an acoustic cover of Love in an Elevator

no just a guy playing acoustic guitar being crushed by an elevator

hawt

i was trying to link to the movie (?) version of this, but here is the quote:

In "Angels in America," Tony Kushner's Pulitzer Prize-winning play, an African-American character named Belize suggests that the difficulty was part of the composer's plan. "The white cracker who wrote the national anthem knew what he was doing," Belize insists. "He set the word 'free' to a note so high nobody can reach it."