should i give the grateful dead a chance?

tl;dr: It's all rehearsal and in-progress versions of stuff already on the album, all part of a vault score of similar material from some (but not all) of the other studio albums. Also, a deluxe American Beauty is in the pipeline, but whatever included studio extras are of a lower quality than this batch.

Workingdudes is their best studio album imho. Love dire wolf

“tl” is right... that’s a long f’in article

^^The drums & space sections were pretty unnecessary.

lol

I listened to In The Dark recently and a enjoyed it quite a bit

For this Fourth, I'm doing what I intended last tyme: listen to 50th Anniversary Editions on YouTube---although skipped the debut and went to Anthem, one I'd never heard at all, unlike the debut.Liked the '71 remix better overall, seemed like the stereo imaging was more centered, deeper focus, something, on sub-audiophile headphones. "Alligator" maybe fave in both mixes. May skip the bonus (show) disc (familiar set list, incl. several Anthem titles, also I caught some of the use of live in studio), and go on to the one I can't spell. I'm gonna come back this one fer shure.

Red & white, blue suede shoes. I’m Uncle Sam, how do you do?

Of course knww most of the songs on Aoxomoxoa from show tapes, but omg original context: at first this version of "St. Stephen" seemed too quaint, like an early Van Dyke Parks outtake w more guitar--but fairly soon, sonic shrooms started to tilt me down their gullet---will have to come back to it---advantage of music to other drugs: sometimes you can dream the same dream twice and better---may never get to '7i redo, as described by wiki

...Garcia and Lesh went back in the studio in 1971 to remix the album, removing many parts present on the original release, including a choir singing on "Mountains of the Moon", many difficult-to-identify sounds on "What's Become of the Baby", and an a cappella ending for "Doin' that Rag," dropped for an earlier fadeout. The remix also uses different vocal takes on some songs, most noticeably "Dupree's Diamond Blues." The result, with the same catalog number (WS1790) and perhaps brighter sound, but with much of the original's experimental character removed...nooooo

But yes, as with 50th Anniversary Anthem of the Sun, good have orginals and revisions at hand if you want 'em.

if you like The Band but can’t get down with “Brown Eyed Woman”, you are posing

Country funk for the win

Oh yeah 50th anniversary had both versions of the lps they rejigged in the early 70s on the same disc and s live set on a 2nd.
But that is only the 2nd and 3rd lps.
So are you getting less playing time on everything after.
& did they add a live set to Live Dead

if you like The Band but can’t get down with “Brown Eyed Woman”, you are posing

― brimstead, Friday, August 7, 2020 4:20 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

real talk

R.I.P. Jerry, 25 years today

I remember where I was

I was in Juneau, AK and there wasn’t a cloud in the sky. Called my dad and he asked, “did you hear the news?”

I was on a school bus on the way back from a YMCA camping trip. summer of “waterfalls” on the radio all the damn time iirc

I was at my girlfriend's house. It's twenty-five years later now and we've been married most of that time, and have two kids.

was watching mtv and they interrupted whatever program was running to announce it.

Scarlet > Fire from Cornelll '77 is sounding so crisp I can almost bite a piece out of it

RIP to the GOD

was watching mtv and they interrupted whatever program was running to announce it.

― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, August 10, 2020 1:43 AM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was watching MTV and Touch of Grey came on. I was like "wow! maybe MTV is taking a new programming direction and playing some older music?" I had forgotten when they had done the exact same thing a year earlier with Kurt. Then came the news scroll at the bottom of the screen announcing his death. I walked down to the river and cried.

I was eating at a Sooper Salad in SA. RIP

Scarlet > Fire from Cornelll '77 is sounding so crisp I can almost bite a piece out of it

RIP to the GOD

― black dice live ft. jerry garcia (rizzx), Monday, 10 August 2020 09:14 (eight hours ago) link

It's really kind of a sonic monument, and I'm not even always sure I exactly *like* it, but it's singular.

oh man i was sitting on a dude's couch waiting to buy an 1/8 of weed when Touch of Grey came on MTV. it was my then girlfriend / now wife's birthday and I made dinner later and bought a pint of cherry garcia for dessert

lol

I'm really enjoying this cover of Standing on the Moon by Molly Tuttle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTAjConx2tY

I had the opposite experience of joygoat, a deadhead was in my basement to pick up 1/8 and I made some joke about Jerry's diet probably being ultimately what killed him and he had no idea until that moment that he was dead and his smile faded and he just turned kind of pale and he ran up the stairs and out the door.

and he quit smoking weed forever that very day and found the lord

don't have any recollection of jerry's death (I was 11 and living in Scotland) but I have been getting heavily into the dead of late. finally got a working turntable in my apartment (my wife and I somehow own 3 turntables that don't work so we bought a new one) and a good chunk of the records we have belonged to my wife's late father who was a deadhead. at first I was kind of resistant to the dead and really only enjoyed one or two tracks per album, and I find plenty of the studio albums a bit shit - aoxomoxoa, blues for allah are not my favourites for instance, working man's dead and American beauty are my favourites - but I've just been listening to dick's picks haphazardly and I'm a big fan now, most of what I listen to rn tbh.

You seriously had no reaction to help on the way on Allah? Wow

I have a feeling that my insistence on attempting both Help on the Way and the extended version of Eyes of the World may have been what broke up my dead cover band.

I see the expanded Working Man's Dead is now up on Spotify, but it's a shame they don't share the Dave's Picks series there too.

xps. help on the way and crazy fingers are my favourites on blues for allah

Help is a b1tch to play, very busy but emphasis is on the smooth so tough

13yo me was checking American Beauty out from the public library and the nice old lady working at the desk broke the news to me.

That sounds like a detail from a Stephen King novel.

What news

Pigpen died, man! What a bummer!

Anyone ever tried listening to every Dark Star from 1967 up until 1995? Contemplating this project. I think it's safe to skip '67 to '70 though

if yr finna do that don't skip any of them

Yeah 1968 and 69 are packed with must-hear Dark Stars

The surest sign that the answer to the thread question is 'No' is that I've become a fan of the podcast/internet radio show Time Crisis, where the Dead are a pet topic and one of the dudes has a tribute band (with the perfect name Richard Pictures). It's entertaining to hear them talk about GD and defend their cultural reputation etc, and yet any time I actually hear them (especially the live recordings) I'm still instantly repulsed.

I even came around to Vampire Weekend through the show (at least the most recent album), but the Dead are still a giant nope for me.

Haha I didn't realize that someone from Richard Pictures was involved in that podcast. Yeah, that's by far my favorite tribute band name.

He's the older brother of the guy from Dirty Projectors

"I think it's safe to skip '67 to '70 though" -- I would only do this if working from the principle that they are so widely acknowledged as "formative/great" versions then why bother? If you are actually diving in without that as your guiding principle then yeah, definitely start from the beginning. I LOVE the early Dark Stars, still basically my favorite GD shit.

Ha, I've been doing the same thing. Those really early 3-4 minute "Dark Star" versions from early '68 are interesting in their own right. I really dug a trip through the 1/22/68 version that came out of a killer early "Spanish Jam".

Agree. It was a fascinating progression.

The original, album version of Dark Star is the best one, it just gets gradually worse after that over time.

The original, album version of Dark Star is the best one, it just gets gradually worse after that over time.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive)

the original version of dark star isn't the album version