it's certainly either her best or very close to it (Devotion being its competition)
― ufo, Sunday, 28 June 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
song for song it's her best
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 June 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
personally i'm not sure whether i've felt it as an *album* yet, and devotion had that in spades, so ymmv
i love the way it ends though, "the kill" -> "remember where you are" is just great
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 June 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link
"the kill" is like a fuckin evil madonna song, it rules
Ooh La La is a lost Prince song as far as I'm concerned; it's a fucking wrecking ball.
I want to say that the album feels frontloaded to me but it's probably just that I'm having a hard time not restarting every time I get to Adore You. I'll catch up with you guys soon enough.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 28 June 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link
i wasn't that big on "ooh la la" as a single but it works way better in context of the album
― ufo, Sunday, 28 June 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
yeah, i missed all the singles after adore you and they are going off like dynamite for me... spotlight in particular is just spinning in place under a mirror ball forever
(i really tried to stop listening to this and get through the new HAIM but not now)
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 28 June 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link
I think the repeat tempos and structures hampers it as a record a tiny bit. all the songs rule tho
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 29 June 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link
this is how I felt about the last kelis also iirc
if you wanna know the truth...
― winters (josh), Monday, 29 June 2020 23:11 (three years ago) link
stop gofastslow
here togetherwhat's your pleasure
*SYNTH STAB*
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 29 June 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link
so grateful to have the summer dominated by Jessie and a new Róisín album in August
― winters (josh), Monday, 29 June 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link
THE HEART OF THE CITY IS ON FIIIIIIIRRRREEE
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, June 26, 2020 8:06 AM
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 June 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link
This album and the Haim have really lifted my spirits this week. What a career Ware has had. Hard to imagine anything topping Devotion for me, but this is close, and all her records have been superb. The run from "Ooh La La" through "Adore You" is stunning.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 30 June 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
the end of "ooh la la" is my favorite song
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link
I like this album but there are still no good songs called 'Ooh La La'.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link
i will brook no slander to Ooh La La; it's a banger
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link
Yeah it would seem odd to me to like the title track or “mirage (don’t stop)” or “soul control” but then take issue with “ooh la la”.
Exhaustion with the general approach by the time of about “step into my life” would make more sense to me but, idk, the whole album’s touch is so light that I don’t have that issue myself.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link
yeah I (quite unfairly) usually get tuckered out by the midway point then skip ahead to the glorious closing two-fer
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
― Matt DC, Wednesday, July 1, 202
what the
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WNwTpOKf1o
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
there's a poll in here for sure
https://www.allmusic.com/search/songs/ooh+la+la
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew4AYtQggFA&
― Number None, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
i mean this came out like two months agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sff7Kc77QAY
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
Tbh I just find titling a song 'Ooh La La' to be an indicator of trying just that little bit too hard. The Suzi Lane one might be an exception.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
That one is a minor moroder masterpiece
― carin' (map), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link
Spotlight is a little more aggressively dancefloor but get some Rhye vibes from it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link
Slandering RTJ's Ooh La La is also slandering Nice & Smooth how rude
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:43 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLE-2ZSa_Dg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 July 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link
Suzi Lane, Jessie Ware, Faces, Goldfrapp “Ooh La La”s are good songs and I wont hear otherwise.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
Also Blossom Dearie and The Raincoats; they’re not amazing songs but they’re not bad.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:28 (three years ago) link
Let this be the end of the thread derail:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS1jI4LQbvQ
― willem, Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
Oh that’s a great one too!
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link
Yesss Willem. Arno <3
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 2 July 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
I got distracted by Haim for a bit but now I realise: this is the best album
― coptic feels (seandalai), Sunday, 5 July 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
The thing about most modern "X goes disco" albums is that they channel other modern "X goes disco" albums rather than anything that feels like the 70s. This album is still more 80s than 70s but I do hear flashes of Salsoul, Cerrone, Patrick Adams,...and I hadn't really thought much before about how novel that is.
― seandalai, Sunday, 5 July 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
ooh la la is my fav on this album probably? idk. I have trouble listening to the whole thing. Its very mannered at times in its disco obsession. ive been ruined for it by a guy who kept using it as a stick to beat the dua lipa album which ... theyre very different obv, but i kind of appreciate how dua lipa is less oriented around capturing the correct disco blueprints ... anyway i do love several songs on this though.
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 5 July 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
which songs do u like on the dua lipa deej? i didn’t love it the couple times i put it on
― flopson, Sunday, 5 July 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
it seems odd to even compare this to dua lipa's album; the two occupy pretty different aesthetic territory, and it's pointless to say which is intrinsically more valuable. both are very well executed. the odd-but-apt 'too perfect' argument that was applied by some to future nostalgia and lipa herself could easily apply here as well. each sound, every aspect of the arrangement sounds like it was deeply considered. it builds beautifully on tracks like "save a kiss" and "the kill" without overblowing things. the referential signposts unsurprisingly tend to point to those works and artists that various cults of 'good' dance music remain devoted to. though many of these styles, particularly rendered so thoughtfully, remain genuinely thrilling, her music can sometimes seem like it's built more around excellent aesthetic judgment than depth of feeling. i know grading the apparent rawness of a performer's emotions is largely bullshit, but i prefer an artist who can at least temporarily sell me on the illusion. at times ware's voice simply lacks the idiosyncrasy to fully embody some of the styles and situations she dons.
with all of that said, it's a very impressive record and i do personally prefer it to future nostalgia
― dyl, Sunday, 5 July 2020 23:55 (three years ago) link
I love both for discrete reasons and otm
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 July 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link
This album is still more 80s than 70s but I do hear flashes of Salsoul, Cerrone, Patrick Adams,...and I hadn't really thought much before about how novel that is.
I have thought abt this a lot, I can't remember if I already said this upthread but this album is so reverent of its source material, she has clearly taken the time to learn the history in a way that few of her peers have, it is why this record is so sumptuous and such a treat and avoids cheesy pastiche
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 July 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link
Anyone catch how a string section at the 1:42 mark in "Save a Kiss" evokes "Jive Talkin'"?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, July 6, 2020 12:48 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i feel like this is saying exactly my criticism but as a compliment!
I think there are obvious reasons to compare this & dua lipa even though yes they're doing different things w different ways ... disco is obviously a common touchpoint. but yes its pointless to say which is 'intrinsically more valuable' sure.
I think there's a lightness of touch which I find personally more exciting w/ the Dua album, which has these kind of strictures that force it to sound a bit more of-its-time, certain melodic choices it makes, the way it cuts quickly and makes some unconventional harmonic/melodic moves for disco while not really going full-blown generic pop, that make it feel less like periodicization and instead like a kind of weird hybrid. at least at its best
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
i like "Cool" which is more an 80s thing i suppose but thats another enjoyable aspect to me is its sense of nostalgia is more in a jukebox stylehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY8tAKDVxK8
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
ironically i remember worrying to brad & tim that "Don't Start Now" was kind of disappointingly mannered nu disco when it was released as a single which felt kind of like a backward step after "one kiss" & just pure pop (coughs in regretful coinage) like "new rules"
ends up the album short circuits these kinds of limitations by lifting from a sort of nostalgic pastiche that isn't quite as laser focused as jessie ware's
@flopson "Cool" "Physical" "Levitating" "Hallucinate" ofc, "Love Again" flipping the same sample as White Town lol ... it has a kind of whimsy
this is all a matter of personal pref of course, and as I said there's songs on the jessie ware album i love ... but its historical precision is the least interesting aspect of it imo, i think i'm drawn maybe to its perfectionism not bc of how accurately it conveys abcdefg cliches (though it does) but that as a side effect of how much i guess...passion? is required to take it to the limit like that, i think that kind of bubbles over in the elaborateness of the songcraft
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
also maybe understating the persona appeal of both artists
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 6 July 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
i'm really falling for what's your pleasure, yeah i know i'm late to the party. it's just so romantic and in spite of the maxed out (gorgeous) production choices the melodies are often very urgent and straightforward. there might be a little placebo in this but i bought a hi-res digital download of the thing and my god the spatial dimensions are super lit, it really sounds amazing. also i feel like the classical disco influences aren't as present as like the last 15-20 years of super lush nu-disco.
― carin' (map), Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link
man, "in your eyes" ...
― carin' (map), Thursday, 9 July 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link
there's no weak spots on here
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 9 July 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link
I keep finding new favorite songs in here. “Step Into My Life” was one of the songs I didn’t care much about the first couple of spins but right now it’s my favorite one.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 10 July 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link
I'm feeling this with the title track! "Read My Lips" remains my personal fave of the moment
― winters (josh), Friday, 10 July 2020 04:54 (three years ago) link