Young Marble Giants : Colossal Youths or Little Duds

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fun? its not all about fun you know.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but it was "indie" when the term was still respectable.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Before the term was invented, I think, no? JaXon, this is a good album.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

you guys are wrong, i am right

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, you convinced me

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Jaxon, you have NO INDIE BLOOD WHATSOEVER.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Colossal, of course. Love the album (standout for me is "N.I.T.A." -- first song I heard of theirs and the most haunting of all next to "Wind in the Rigging"), love the "Final Day" single, and the Test Card EP cracks me up and makes me smile, especially "This Way", "Click Talk", and "Zebra Trucks". I understand that Kraftwerk comparison way upthread. As for Weekend, the only song I've heard of theirs is the demo of "Red Planes" and it's fucking amazing! Did they do anything else that good? Oh, and how's that Salad Days disc of YMG demos? Is it worth picking up?

― Ian Riese-Moraine. Exposing ambitious careerists as charlatans since 1986. (East, Friday, 10 June 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Best. Album. Evah.

It's also one of the few albums I can get away with playing at work (along with choice Miles, Gainsbourg, Sinatra and Stereolab) so it's been in heavy rotation lately.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 10 June 2005 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

i still can't quite get it, so i guess i'm kind of with jaxon. though i wouldn't say "dud" at all.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It is one of those albums that you kinda have to be in the right mood for, I'd say.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 June 2005 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Gainsbourg at work? Do you work at a bordello?

― Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Friday, 10 June 2005 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

this still sux

-- [that bastard] jaxon

I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE

― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 10 June 2005 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Salad Days is best left to the already-converted, interesting more as a sketchbook than anything else.

― mike a, Friday, 10 June 2005 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'm converted, so...

― Ian Riese-Moraine. Exposing ambitious careerists as charlatans since 1986. (East, Friday, 10 June 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

For the record, if you look very closely, you'll notice that Colossal Youth is on the cover of Paul's Boutique, along with Grover Washington Jr.'s 'Mister Magic'.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd listen to Grover Washington Jr ten thousand times before i'd listen to YMG

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Gainsbourg at work? Do you work at a bordello?

haha. you know those restaurants in mafia movies where the whole place is empty except for one old italian guy eating spaghetti in the back? that's where i work.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

you know those restaurants in mafia movies where the whole place is empty except for one old italian guy eating spaghetti in the back?

South of Canal st? I've eaten there.

And at Le Mela, there really were a batch of hefty suited men with violin cases. Like a violin nonet.

― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Obviously, it's an acquired taste.

lol, guess so. :D

― bob n0pe (bobnope), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

or the record, if you look very closely, you'll notice that Colossal Youth is on the cover of Paul's Boutique, along with Grover Washington Jr.'s 'Mister Magic'.

And the re-release of the first Modern Lovers album.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, looking at it now. That's not the Colossal Youth, that's The Modern Lovers

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000032AZ.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

see, they got better tastes than that

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"One album, one single and one EP of totally original, unspoilt genius, and they were gone. Classic. What do you reckon?"

I reckon The Doc's diagnosis is absolutely OTM.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

It still has room to grow on me but I'm never in the mood to listen to this when I play it. A little too fey and lightweight for me. There have been some times when I'll hear a song and sorta, kinda understand why people love this but it's never enough to get me over the hump. Then again it reminds me of my initial reaction to Joy Division.

― Cunga (Cunga), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

The people who hate on this thread are alien to me.

Revive partially cause a slew of Alison S.'s collaborative stuff has just been reissued via LTM. Never heard any of it before so it's been grand to hear how her vocal approach changed, just, over the years.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 January 2006 22:51 (twenty years ago)

ooh ooh what's LTM stand for, Ned? Got a link?

Just got the Crepescule CD last week although I've had the records for a long time. Classic, of course, and "Final Day" really is perfect.

― sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 15 January 2006 23:54 (twenty years ago)

Huzzah:

http://www.ltmpub.freeserve.co.uk/ltmhome.html

Darla distributes in the States.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 January 2006 23:56 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...

Revive, because I bought this last week and have been playing it without finding a 'way in' until last night. Girlfriend was watching ER, so I retired to the bedroom (bedside lights only) and it suddenly became great.

I have the 25 track CD thing with the bleepy stuff near the end, but as mentional upthread, Final Day, Salad days, Choc Loni etc; just wonderful.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:59 (twenty years ago)

classic!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:25 (twenty years ago)

i'm selling my vinyl copy for $17. buy it from me

― jäxøñ (jaxon), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...

is this one album they made like 20 tracks long or something? on soulseek it seems to be. or is that just the re-release? i literally no nothing about this band.

― pisces (piscesx), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

added ep and bonus tracks yeah

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Just about the only post-punk band on Rough Trade I don't really like, oddly enough.

They just sound so..........ordinary.

― Phil Knight (PhilK), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

ordinary?!?! Yer crazy. The only bands that maybe sounded like them were some obscure stripped down minimal type bands that never had songs that good.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

this album feels like listening to sunday afternoon college radio

― Bernard Snowy (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I would interpret "stripped down" as meaning shorn of any interesting bits.

I've bought and sold this reocrd twice, and have given it a more than fair go. Only "Astral Weeks" has been persevered with longer for less reward on my cheap Czech turntable.

― Phil Knight (PhilK), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

maybe you should replace the cheap Czech turntable? Can't argue with someone who likes neither YMG or Astral Weeks, I guess.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I like This Heat and John Martyn, so it's not an ideological thing.

The word "Dryness" has entered my mind for some reason.

― Phil Knight (PhilK), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

ORLY.

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Classic.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Colossal Youth proper is the 15-song LP ("Searching For Mr. Right" through "Wind In The Rigging"). Most CD reissues have the "Final Day" 7" and the Testcard EP tacked onto the end, bringing the total to 24 tracks.

I'm no Astral Weeks fanatic either, but it's hard for me to be objective about YMG.

― mike a (mike a), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

YMG is dry, stripped down to it's basic parts, the percussion is just a click and a pop. There is space, then there's a guitar riff. A nice, melodic, hook, played simply. Likewise the bass does it's job with minimal fuss, though perhaps more excitement then the other parts. Nothing's monotone, you know? They are mostly well-crafted song simply constructed and plainly presented. I think their influence on indie of the 80s on shows in that it was their songs more then their style/aesthetic.

And if you're missing the bonus tracks, Phil, that may help to persuade you.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Classic

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Another vote in the "Classic" column, for YMG and Astral Weeks.

― marc h. (marc h.), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

this still sux

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

i also don't like this because the guy on the right of the cover looks like michael stipe.

also, has anyone heard Fools Brigade? sf indie/post-punk band that totally reminds me of this. there's no mention of them on the web at all?

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I had one of the EP's Dan - the one with the odd-looking statue on the cover.

I may give them one more try in the future (because of course one's tastes can always change), but for now, like gentlemen, we must agree to differ.

― Phil Knight (PhilK), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

i'm listening to this record AGAIN. it reminds me of the whitest possible version of Timmy Thomas. except i like Timmy Thomas

― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

I already knew about the reunion, but GUH:

On September 11, 2007 Domino are proud to re-release Colossal Youth and the
Collected Works of Young Marble Giants, drawing together the band's album and
singles for the first time ever on a 3 CD set with liner notes by Simon Reynolds. To
mark this release, Young Marble Giants are reuniting for the very first time in 27
years for a worldwide exclusive performance on Sunday 27 May at The Hay Festival in
Hay on Wye in the UK, with support from Kendal's wonderfully dislocated Wild Beasts.

Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth and Collected Works track list:

DISC ONE: COLOSSAL YOUTH

1.Searching For Mr Right
2.Include Me Out
3.The Taxi
4.Eating Noddemix
5.Constantly Changing
6.N.I.T.A.
7.Colossal Youth
8.Music For Evenings
9.The Man Amplifier
10.Choci Loni
11.Wurlitzer Jukebox
12.Salad Days
13.Credit in the Straight World
14.Brand - New - Life
15.Wind in the Rigging

DISC TWO: COLLECTED WORKS

1.This Way
2.Posed by Models
3.The Clock
4.Clicktalk
5.Zebra Trucks
6.Sporting Life
7.Final Day
8.Radio Silents
9.Cakewalking
10.Ode To Booker T
11.Have Your Toupee Ready
12.N.I.T.A.
13.Brand - New - Life
14.Zebra Trucks
15.Choci Loni
16.Wind in the Rigging
17.The Man Shares His Meal With His Beast
18.The Taxi
19.Constantly Changing
20.Music For Evenings
21.Credit in the Straight World
22.Eating Noddemix
23.Ode To Booker T
24.Radio Silents
25.Hayman
26.Loop The Loop

tracks 1-6 TESTCARD E.P.
tracks 7-9 FINAL DAY single
track 10 taken from
IS THE WAR OVER compilation
tracks 11-26 SALAD DAYS album

DISC THREE: PEEL SESSION

1.Posed By Models
2.Searching For Mr. Right
3.N.I.T.A.
4.Brand New Life
5.Final Day
Recorded August 20, 1980.

www.myspace.com/youngmarblegiants

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

i love the fact that they're getting proper reissue, i really really do - but why does it skeev me so much that it's domino doing it? did their OJ and Josef K reissues sell anything? is this just some sort of vanity thing for them?

― electricsound, Friday, 11 May 2007 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

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