+ 5 for use of my favorite phrase
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 October 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link
I think it's safe to say that most people will never feel sympathetic toward celebrities whose complaint is that the cost of never having to punch a time clock again is too dear
I can't really argue that, and I'm certainly not the "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE" guy. All I'll say is that -- given her very public difficulties -- I now find Spears a much more compelling person.
Lots of people sympathized with, say, Princess Diana, and she certainly was a celebrity whose biggest complaint was "that the cost of never having to punch a time clock again is too dear."
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 October 2007 03:42 (seventeen years ago) link
Princess Diana was a philanthropist whose public identity was tied in to people's nationalism too. I agree that Britney Spears is more compelling, but I don't know if it's not a result of feeling like cosmic justice has been served and a high margins person was briefly dragged through the mud, and if that is the case, I guess I should feel guilty too.
― trashthumb, Sunday, 21 October 2007 03:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Good points.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 21 October 2007 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Princess Diana = proper blue-blooded royalty and not to be compared to common trash celebrity scum whores.
That said, Britney is hotter.
― little lord fauntleroy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link
Also, not a corpse, yet.
― little lord fauntleroy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link
shaddup, everyone.
― Spinspin Sugah, Sunday, 21 October 2007 06:32 (seventeen years ago) link
ban fuck little lord fauntleroy
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 October 2007 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link
-- little lord fauntleroy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 04:52 (4 hours ago) Link
-- little lord fauntleroy, Sunday, 21 October 2007 04:53 (4 hours ago) Link
max r 2
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link
HOOS with the eternal question: ban or fuck?
― Just got offed, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link
BANFUCK LOUIS JAGGER
― The Reverend, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link
FUCKBAN probably worse.
― Just got offed, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link
enough
― electricsound, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link
nor "interested" by said celebrities' great barbaric yawp
Shevles and shelves full of celeb gossip magazines in the UK would beg to differ.
― ledge, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:39 (seventeen years ago) link
Not really, it's 'OMG must watch the car crash' rather than genuine sympathy.
Who in their right mind wants sincerity from Britney anyway? To be honest, releasing an album mid-breakdown is a bit of misstep anyway, you want a returning triumph over adversity in two years' time, all plastic pop and no demons in sight.
Which makes me think that the Kylie album will absolutely trounce Blackout (even if the single is a bit rub) and surely no one thinks that will be full of introspective songs about coming to terms with cancer.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 21 October 2007 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link
-- ledge, Sunday, 21 October 2007 09:39 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
This explains all the smash hit singles Pete Doherty has had in the past five years oh wait
― Dom Passantino, Sunday, 21 October 2007 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link
Has anybody bothered to listen to the clips or leaks if so opinions please.
― I know, right?, Sunday, 21 October 2007 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link
no noone has bothered because the engine of the Britney train is celebrity, and it got up such a head of steam that the "also makes music" car detached and now nobody gives a shit - this is rather a "made your bed, lie in it" proposition for our Britney
― J0hn D., Sunday, 21 October 2007 12:26 (seventeen years ago) link
i give a shit i'm just lazy and will buy the actual album
― Surmounter, Sunday, 21 October 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link
I listened - the beats are actually really fun. I'm not a fan of Britneyper se but I love Toxic and these clips show promise..
― Finefinemusic, Sunday, 21 October 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link
OMG "Heaven"
― Tape Store, Sunday, 21 October 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't get the love for "Toxic" at all. I like some other Britney songs, but that one, which seems to inspire particularly obsessive love on ILM, is an overstuffed nightmare. It's like dance-pop produced by John Zorn: 300 ideas in three minutes, and none of them good.
― unperson, Sunday, 21 October 2007 17:46 (seventeen years ago) link
I wouldn't describe "Toxic" as overstuffed...I've always heard it as one clever idea. You have these three different cinematic string sounds (the psycho murder scene, the barren saloon showdown, and the sci-fi battle), and each one recalls some sort of physical struggle. That's what Britney's lyrics revolve around, and that's why the song works as well as it does.
― Tape Store, Sunday, 21 October 2007 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't get the love for "Toxic" at all...It's like dance-pop produced by John Zorn
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 21 October 2007 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Phil has made his disdain for Zorn pretty noisy.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
"Which makes me think that the Kylie album will absolutely trounce Blackout (even if the single is a bit rub) and surely no one thinks that will be full of introspective songs about coming to terms with cancer."
Well, Kylie is also on a hot streak (3 great albums and countless good b-sides), while Britney's recent material has been pretty lame. I would not put it past Kylie to pull off a song about coming to terms with cancer.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 21 October 2007 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Surely there will be just one song on the next Kylie album about the cancer - perhaps a duet with Olivia Newton-John?
Britney's last album was slightly better than Kylie's last album FWIW.
― Tim F, Monday, 22 October 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago) link
to quote alex in nyc: britney spears is incapable of making any music of quality and distinction.
Which is why she has never made any music either. If the people using her as a marionette has made something sounding like Depeche Mode, Human League or Knife it may be worth a listen. It isn't like untalented Britney should be given any credit for it being good if it is though.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 22 October 2007 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link
OK now it's the worst thread ever.
― Matt DC, Monday, 22 October 2007 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link
NOW it's the worst thread ever!?
― I know, right?, Monday, 22 October 2007 11:39 (seventeen years ago) link
i think this reviews nails it:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2007/10/22/2007-10-22_studio_tricks_make_britneys_new_cd_sound.html
even if the headline and byline photo look like something out of the onion
he makes a good point about the weird disconnect between britney's musical image as a in-control master of erotic longing and her celebrity image as off-the-rails sad case
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 October 2007 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link
WAIT GUYS GEIR LIKES THE KNIFE
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 22 October 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link
If you think about it too much, it's hard not to see her as that old Saturday Night Live "drunk girl" character, the sad lush pawing men at a party.
iiiiiiiii'm like a biiiiiiiiiird goooooonna fly awaaaaaaaay
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 22 October 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah, I think whats interesting about what I've heard is how britney seems to ride the margins. She's more of a texture and an idea than an actual presence. It really sounds like it could have been made in the future without her. Its a really interesting record.
― I know, right?, Monday, 22 October 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
Also its funny how that bassline in Piece of me seems designed for the patented Britney neckswervejerk dance move.
― I know, right?, Monday, 22 October 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link
the patented Britney neckswervejerk dance move
?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 22 October 2007 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2007/10/22/amd_britney-art.jpg
ยบ_o
― r|t|c, Monday, 22 October 2007 17:06 (seventeen years ago) link
taking sides: k-fed vs k-punk
― r|t|c, Monday, 22 October 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Leaked.
― Turangalila, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link
It's awesome.
― Melissa W, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 06:40 (seventeen years ago) link
can I get a witness?
― Turangalila, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 07:44 (seventeen years ago) link
the new single is brilliant.
― Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 10:44 (seventeen years ago) link
Is it Piece of me?
― I know, right?, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 11:22 (seventeen years ago) link
No "Gimme More"...sorry it's not "new" I guess.
― Ronan, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link
Alright, I'll confess that I didn't mind "Toxic," but I get the feeling she had as much to do with the greatness of that track as fuckin' I did. Her voice is fucking NOTHING. Her producers deserve the credit on that one.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link
Piece of Me is fantastic, and does Radar samples Tainted Love -seems risky after Rihanna's S.O.S. but I like Britney's beats better.. I agree with whoever upthread said this had a kind of dirty 80s/Human League vibe. Her songwriters have come out with some pretty fun stuff, probably inspired by the fact that Umbrella was (I heard) offered to Britney and turned down
― Finefinemusic, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
cor is that danja singing on 'get naked'! what a big hammy old queen.
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link
yes yes yes i'm so excited
have we alread talked about how toxic borrows from an old sample? some old indian song or something
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Her problem is not being a money-generating machine since she was a child, her problem is that she's just not that bright. By contrast, Natalie Portman and Jodie Foster, who have been money-generators since they were kids, seem well-adjusted. But then again, their IQs are above 60.
― dally, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link
umm
i don't think any of us REALLY know how bright any of those ppl are?
natalie portman has my cell phone number cuz she's comin to a show here soon ;-)
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 23 October 2007 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link