Mega Mega Vote Thing - UNDERWORLD (Smith/Hyde) in ILM Artist Poll #102 - Campaigning, Discussion, Equivocating until 22nd May

going through the AHDO b-sides tonight and "Like a Swimmer" and "Ansum" are really nice, very much in line with the best parts of Riverrun

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I noticed that S T A R error reading back over the thread today and am extremely amused that anyone else has! Pretty sure it's the EP version again, yeah (on my original Drift spreadsheet I have the boxset version tagged as SAME, which is not as entirely clear as it might be.)


loads of the Drift videos have different running times, but it's usually just because there's a little more video than audio, so I didn't bother logging the details in this thread. for real trainspottery though, this 2017 trailer for the Manchester installation includes a minute of an early mix of Doris as bed.


I skipped the Sampler versions* because there aren't full versions of them, and the variations are probably done just for the sake of / in the process of mixing the tracks together. Appleshine is just crossfaded into Drum Street, I think, and the mix / edit variations on the other two seem to be for flow and timing.

* except Rebel Tech, which is basically a different recording of the song

I could not be more delighted that these monstrously finicky lists, which are mainly intended to make collating the votes easier & more accurate, and that I feared would be offputting or overwhelming to home listeners, are being called out for being insufficently anal.

Would there be different point totals for these or would you merge them? I've been taking the non-bolded stuff in your lists as things you would fold into the thing above.

I'll figure out how to represent them in the tally depending on whether anything gets enough votes to stand out separately

yeah "Doris" seems to be the only one i noticed where it's a notably shorter edit for the video. those lists have been very useful in navigating their sometimes endearingly confusing discography, i really appreciate the effort

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eg hypotheticals: if lots of ppl vote for the Airtowel A2778 Live Jam and nobody votes for Air Towel, then A2778 Live Jam can place and I'll note that nobody voted for the parent version. If five people vote for Air Towel and two vote for A2778, then I might combine, or just add a note and link for A2778, or list separately, depending on how much the points would change the final placings. Basically I'll weight/structure the rollout based on how the voters seem to be valuing candidates and the parties they represent, but every vote will be counted!

(And again, people are welcome to add notes and caveats to their ballots, or argue in the thread that I've broken the titles up unfairly. Surprised there's been consensus that none of us really know what to do with the Dark & Long b-sides, instead of a debate, tbh)

Sounds good. I'm going to rank the Dark and Longs as unique songs and let you figure it out :)

Couldn't care less about minor edits of songs. I hope that stuff doesn't scare off lurkers. I think there is more than enough on any streaming platform to dive in and make a great ballot.

my view re: the dark & longs is they're all unique enough to count separately except "spoon deep" which i'd be fine about lumping in with "surfboy" and "hall's" which is just a single edit. even i haven't been bothering with listening to the minor edits much (but i've tracked them all down for the sake of curiosity and completeness)

agree on those ones

beaucoup fish box set is a little like... why is it like this???
but it does include “please help me,” one of their best b-sides, and “ramajama,” a track, at least according to youtube comments, that had been played live as a long intro to “king of snake”

That Reading Festival live version of “Rez/Cowgirl” posted upthread is straight fire.

Hall’s I only listed out of perverse completeness, yeah - as an edit AND an outside mix it doesn’t even count here

Dark Hard I think of as a remix of Dark Train, but once you get eight minutes deep in 215 Miles or Most Ospitable or w/e, I’m too inside the groove to clock which other tracks a bit of drum programming or a sequence of chord changes is shared with

For listeners coming new to Drift: most of the different versions are just tweaked, Rick fiddling with the original mix here & there between releases. Any given version of a piece will give you enough of an idea to vote, and the videos for the originals outweigh any improvement to the later audio.

Orange Bed on the BF box set is super good, kind of a jam on the ending of Cups

you bring light in
you bring light in
you bring light in

time to dig into underworld mk 3 baby!!!!!

"Twist" and "Luetin" are the secret killers from that album IMO

Luetin's gonna be pretty high up my ballot

Currently have about 15 tracks that feel they should be top 3 tho

wow i sure do underrate a hundred days off

yes! see my post on same upthread, first half in particular

"mo move" is so good, atmosphere thick

it will not be my no. 1 but i feel like there's some version of my personality inside of me that would totally make "two months off" their no. 1

if the second half were up to the standard of the first half it would be my #1

i also love that the ending is just like... surprise, bonus cowbell!!!!

oh sorry two months off, not a hundred days off. yeah, the ending is amazing, wouldn't lose that for the world, they've got this weird groove and they're just going to keep on with it because it's such a joy.

yeah that ending is just so killer. maybe my favorite part of the record even

I remember at the time how out of character that track sounded, they rarely did anything uplifting like that. to me that + "Scribble" + "Listen To Their No" form a trilogy of sorts

i found this in some youtube comments, a fanmade extended version of a hundred days off that includes longer mixes of "mo move" and "twist" + b-sides. haven't listened yet but assume it's worthwhile https://www.mixcloud.com/KapteinFlint/underworld-a-hundred-days-off-extended-ansum-edition/

"twist" in all of its versions is one of my absolute favorite underworld songs

Leutin is excellent... I'd have a really hard time in an MK2/3 proper album closers poll, like for real look at this lineup:

M.E.
Stagger
Moaner
Leutin
Best Mamgu Ever
Louisiana
Nylon Strung

"little speaker" is fucking sick, i always forget

The only weak patch is Trim / Ess Gee / DA 3D

That longer version isn't a fan made compilation. There was a DAT / Cassette copy of the Ansum Edition of the album that got circulated. At least that's my recollection of it.

Trim and Ess Gee are at least short, and honestly I kinda dig Trim, I love when UW just goes way out of their comfort zone. then again I'm like the only person who actually liked "100 Weight Hammer"

DA 3D as I've mentioned is kinda weak for an UW banger but the album absolutely needed one. and I think Karl's performance rules on that track.

this is even better than the prefab sprout poll in terms of just encountering overwhelmingly amazing material constantly. losing my mind to "twist (music bank jam take 7)" ALL over again

"trim" is cute imo, i agree with frogbs about their out-of-character moments + the one they've done enough times for it to be a part of their character at this point ("bruce lee," "ring road," etc.)

Trim lyrics are hilarious, worth it for that

"dinosaur adventure 3d" is like... how pointless is a less good "king of snake." and it's not even bad! frogbs is right that hyde's singing is great

The Peel version of Trim was great, imo.

the 13 minute version of "mo move" jesus christ

every time i see dinosaur adventure 3d written down i just imagine that ride from the movie clifford

going through the AHDO b-sides tonight and "Like a Swimmer" and "Ansum" are really nice, very much in line with the best parts of Riverrun

― ufo, Tuesday, May 12, 2020 5:07 AM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm especially about "ansum," bring on the 100 days off box

I remember at the time how out of character that track sounded, they rarely did anything uplifting like that. to me that + "Scribble" + "Listen To Their No" form a trilogy of sorts

yes! hadn't thought about Listen To as a third, but the joy and brightness of Scribble totally read as a sibling song to Two Months when it came out. especially Karl's sunny li'l face in the video!

the 13 minute version of "mo move" jesus christ

the second half became the b-side Ansum when they finalised the album btw. weirdly the album itself was called Ansum when the early version existed

lol xpost from over an hour ago, when I opened the tab

It's not uncommon for ilx0rs to enthuse that they don't know what's going to rank highly in artist polls, but I really really can't imagine how this one is gonna go. (Apart from an assumption of what the #1 album will be, and that the track which would rank highest in a general audience poll won't be #1 here.)

Dinosaur Adventure 3D (R.C.M. Version)

^^ dramatic improvement imo

the second half became the b-side Ansum when they finalised the album btw. weirdly the album itself was called Ansum when the early version existed

― Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:28 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Wasn't the early version leaked at one point? Or is my memory playing tricks on me here?

yes it's all on youtube

it's largely the same except for "twist" and "mo move"

whoa how had I never heard the 13 minute Mo Move before

as i said upthread "ess gee" is my favourite of their many many relatively pointless guitar interludes.

here's the 13 minute "mo move" for reference: https://youtu.be/NfxoHRyTnRA

https://youtu.be/Gt6bm3bswYE early version of twist with crazy percussion outro is cool too but has nothing on the "music bank jam take 7" version

teatime dub encounters is weird because the music is all fine if unspectacular but iggy's vocal approach doesn't really work at all except on "i'll see big".